Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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Where is @Topi Jerami

We won :Woro


By the way, as my dear friend @Elder Lee Hung said before, Old Garp is very close to his prime self, so you can't even make the excuse that he got old and weak here. This is literally the same Garp that clashed with Roger and yet Shiryu ran through him like cardboard.
No wonder the fodders were shocked that Garp's iron defense was broken

I love this exchange because Garp is someone who puts so much time into his training, but he's only focused on one thing and that's perfecting his punches. It's like that saying, fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 punches once, but fear the man who has practiced one punch 10,000 times.

Garp earned the edge here over Roger with all those hours of training just his striking.
This is a bad omen for Roger haters though. I only wish Oda doesnt make Xebec look bad.

Xebec wins = readers win
 
Where is @Topi Jerami

We won :Woro



No wonder the fodders were shocked that Garp's iron defense was broken


This is a bad omen for Roger haters though. I only wish Oda doesnt make Xebec look bad.

Xebec wins = readers win
I'm now receiving word that Shiki nearly did the same to Garp, but Bogard used FS and blocked the blow at the last second?
Huge if true especially considering the Shiki and Shiryu parallels.
 

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I don't think Roger vs Garp was ever conclusive and they were legitimately an either way type situation. WB has a title but I just don't see him or Roger gap Garp anymore, exact equals I doubt that's a thing but I don't think Marines are in the running for these violent titles like Worlds Strongest anything. Hero is the most Garp was ever gonna get, he doesn't have a World's Strongest Marine title or something either, nor was he ever called the strongest marine ever. It's just not something Marines promote.

Btw I am still expecting Roger to narratively separate himself from Garp during this GV event. He has to get an eventual 1v1 with Xebec. If that doesn't happen though then there's just no doubt Garp at worst is intended to be equal to Roger.
I think the gap b/w Garp and WB is well established through their defeats. It's not about marines or pirates, it's about what the author intended to do with them, and he clearly wanted us to see WB as the stronger one. I am having a hard time imagining Garp as an equal to WB—I mean, in the same sense as Akainu and Kuzan. Comparable? Definitely.

The gap b/w Roger/WB and Garp is clear enough to say Roger/WB wins 10/10 times while WB and Roger are more similar to Akainu and Kuzan or even Dorry and Brogy. Rock~Roger~WB>Garp~Rayleigh~Shiki>Sengoku~Gaban. The gaps probably aren't clear enough to put them on different levels but you can still decide who wins if they're to fight.
 
one of them must be man marked by flames
It would have to be Marlon or Silver Axe or Barbel, as those are the only ones we don't know what happens with post GV.
Ochoku rules Hachinosu and eventually falls to BB, Kaido WB and BM (with Streusen) are yonko, Shiki as a Roger rival turned prisoner, Stussy to Mads, Gloriosa to Amazon Lily, Capt John, Bastar, and Ganzui end up in Thriller Bark as zeds.

Also this is all under the assumption scar man is an ex-Rocks, instead of say an ex-Roger or somebody unaffiliated.
 

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I think the gap b/w Garp and WB is well established through their defeats. It's not about marines or pirates, it's about what the author intended to do with them, and he clearly wanted us to see WB as the stronger one. I am having a hard time imagining Garp as an equal to WB—I mean, in the same sense as Akainu and Kuzan. Comparable? Definitely.

The gap b/w Roger/WB and Garp is clear enough to say Roger/WB wins 10/10 times while WB and Roger are more similar to Akainu and Kuzan or even Dorry and Brogy. Rock~Roger~WB>Garp~Rayleigh~Shiki>Sengoku~Gaban. The gaps probably aren't clear enough to put them on different levels but you can still decide who wins if they're to fight.
Honestly, WB took more attacks to take down but in a lot of ways Garp was more impressive than WB in combat.

WB couldn't get an upper hand on any Admiral even once. Garp was ragdolling Kuzan, now granted Kuzan was mentally compromised. But still, he's just a CQC beast compared to WB. WB was more grand of a character.
 
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