Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER: 1156: IDOLS

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Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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#447
#447
Garp the Fist said:
Yeah man, it’s the shit that makes me lose interest in powerscaling nowadays. It‘s wall to wall zero sum agenda bullshit

And yeah, hypocritical of me, i know I deride characters like Sanji and Law, but come on, I’m literally saying one of my favourite characters is not as strong as another and getting jumped lmao. I’m actually holding him to the same standards as I do other characters lol.
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What do you mean you don’t want your list to look like this?

Xebec = Roger = Whitebeard = Garp = Harald = Sengoku = Rayleigh = Gaban = Oden = Kaido = Big Mom = Shanks = Mihawk = Dragon = Akainu = Aokiji = Kizaru = Silver Axe = Ochoku = Captain John?

These characters are all clearly Dorry/Brogy equals because of rivalry statements, databooks, and one panel clashes. Leech Piece reigns supreme
 
Shiroyru

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#449
#449
Garp the Fist said:
This arc has drawn out side by side scaling illiteracy to previously unseen levels.

If we used the logic used for this arc with Wano, we’d genuinely walk away with takes like Kaido = Big Mom = Luffy = Zoro = Sanji = Jinbei = Kid = Killer = Law = Drake. X fought next to Y and clashed with Z who was portrayed alongside A who is a rival with B, jesus wept.

Oda wants all these guys from the past to be seen as big powerful legends. They are strong in general. But there has been nothing to especially throw out the powerscale system the way people are acting.

At the end of the day, it’s still going to Roger = Primebeard > everyone else. And that includes Garp. Oda’s obviously going to make the two look good in their first ever fight scene, but that doesn’t change the fact we have seen plenty of characters say that Whitebeard was the only one to truly equal Roger.

The only exception is Rocks, who depending on how he’s beaten at God’s Valley is either the top dog of the generation, or the number two below Rogerbeard.

Like, it seems a lot of the people crowing about Kaido being “ powercrept” are just going to skip over Shiki being worried about a Kaido who is younger than Luffy at the start of his adventure, and with no DF, turning the island into a ruin with a fight with Rocks lmao.
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You missed out on the design scaling in the spoilers thread. Apparently Shiki’s rival is PK level because he has a cool design. This coming from the same people who slander Kaido because Hanafuda (cool design) was his (former) rival
 
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#453
#453
Kurozumi Wiwi said:
Nah if Roger doesn't get some huge wank on GV he genuinely finished. You could always cope he had his prime later but then what? All we got on-screen is a bum
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Roger is clearly going to be in his prime at GV, but he’s not in his prime now. His black lightning sparks are much smaller here than at GV, him and Garp weren’t even doing the contactless thing, and the narrator still considers them to be young here. This version of Roger is probably equivalent to Romance Dawn Shanks, who had a 1B bounty
 
Ven437

Ven437

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#455
#455
Garp the Fist said:
This arc has drawn out side by side scaling illiteracy to previously unseen levels.

If we used the logic used for this arc with Wano, we’d genuinely walk away with takes like Kaido = Big Mom = Luffy = Zoro = Sanji = Jinbei = Kid = Killer = Law = Drake. X fought next to Y and clashed with Z who was portrayed alongside A who is a rival with B, jesus wept.

Oda wants all these guys from the past to be seen as big powerful legends. They are strong in general. But there has been nothing to especially throw out the powerscale system the way people are acting.

At the end of the day, it’s still going to Roger = Primebeard > everyone else. And that includes Garp. Oda’s obviously going to make the two look good in their first ever fight scene, but that doesn’t change the fact we have seen plenty of characters say that Whitebeard was the only one to truly equal Roger.

The only exception is Rocks, who depending on how he’s beaten at God’s Valley is either the top dog of the generation, or the number two below Rogerbeard.

Like, it seems a lot of the people crowing about Kaido being “ powercrept” are just going to skip over Shiki being worried about a Kaido who is younger than Luffy at the start of his adventure, and with no DF, turning the island into a ruin with a fight with Rocks lmao.
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So who did Roger ever defeat in a 1v1?
 
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