Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion
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This is again, just monitoring, and following around. Why is he doing all the games and not just directly sending a message asking for a meeting/fight like he did with Whitebeard? why not just show up at pirate island? Even if Teach isn´t there, he would have to return to defend his territory eventually anyway.
At this point you´ŕe just making a lot of assumptions instead of assuming the most logical conclusion that Shanks didn´t want to fight Big Mom and Kaido and take their poneglyphs. Why are you assuming that Shanks having a flashback about Luffy as a kid after Luffy became a yonko(pretty normal if you see some kid grow up and become famous) means Luffy becoming Nika inspired him to go after the One Piece? Shanks doesn´t even have the Nika fruit, so it has little to do with him, and even if he was waiting for that, why not get the Poneglyphs Beforehand?
My main point is that Shanks should only know a little more then Buggy does about laughtale, since they both didn´t go. All we know is Roger whispered something to Shanks. If it was some super important plan, I´m not sure why he would be crying. It´s possible Shanks learned some stuff from his family, but as of now, I don´t think there´s any confirmation he knows about Imu.
At this point you´ŕe just making a lot of assumptions instead of assuming the most logical conclusion that Shanks didn´t want to fight Big Mom and Kaido and take their poneglyphs. Why are you assuming that Shanks having a flashback about Luffy as a kid after Luffy became a yonko(pretty normal if you see some kid grow up and become famous) means Luffy becoming Nika inspired him to go after the One Piece? Shanks doesn´t even have the Nika fruit, so it has little to do with him, and even if he was waiting for that, why not get the Poneglyphs Beforehand?
My main point is that Shanks should only know a little more then Buggy does about laughtale, since they both didn´t go. All we know is Roger whispered something to Shanks. If it was some super important plan, I´m not sure why he would be crying. It´s possible Shanks learned some stuff from his family, but as of now, I don´t think there´s any confirmation he knows about Imu.
Bro, this is a business deal that all sides were profiting from(except Kaido who got scammed), this hardly changes the attitude Doffy was showing at all times, to the cp0 guy,Fujitora, the random VA´s etc. Doffy was easily the worst behaved Warlord. Can you seriously imagine Doffy in a military uniform doing missions, taking orders? Remember, this guy dresses like a pink flamingo, and can´t keep his feet off the table.
Now we know that Loki´s dad is like the strongest guy ever, that isn´t the same as Doffy who already had a deal with the world government and openly disrespected and broke the rules of the deal. Would it really be a good look for the government to not get fooled once by the same guy, but twice? If we want to do a warlord as a HK, why not Weevil who technically never violated the warlord rules and never really had his role in the story resolved?
Now we know that Loki´s dad is like the strongest guy ever, that isn´t the same as Doffy who already had a deal with the world government and openly disrespected and broke the rules of the deal. Would it really be a good look for the government to not get fooled once by the same guy, but twice? If we want to do a warlord as a HK, why not Weevil who technically never violated the warlord rules and never really had his role in the story resolved?
Shanks don't have the Nika DF him but the person that has it luffy has a lot to do with him .
He bet his arm and the whole future on luffy .
The more we find out about shanks the more special he becomes which IMO mean he know much more that we the reader think.
yes i am assuming things but the HK get there power from IMU and shanks had a abyss mark who else could have given him that mark beside Imu .
Still we will get back to this in a few years lol.
He bet his arm and the whole future on luffy .
The more we find out about shanks the more special he becomes which IMO mean he know much more that we the reader think.
yes i am assuming things but the HK get there power from IMU and shanks had a abyss mark who else could have given him that mark beside Imu .
Still we will get back to this in a few years lol.
Yup, because Doffy is willing to play a role for his chance to succeed in something.
And I'd still argue that the World Gov. entrusted an enormous task to Doflamingo and were content with him running it for years.
I mean, you said it yourself. Loki's dad was the strongest guy and now his son & nation are aligning against the World Government. Would you really sit on a powerful player like Doflamingo, if you think you can make use of him even in the short term?
And I'd still argue that the World Gov. entrusted an enormous task to Doflamingo and were content with him running it for years.
I mean, you said it yourself. Loki's dad was the strongest guy and now his son & nation are aligning against the World Government. Would you really sit on a powerful player like Doflamingo, if you think you can make use of him even in the short term?
Hum you know what it smell like ?
It smell like Roger vs Rocks and Garp vs Harald at God valey and I will enjoy this meal. Seing garp fighting a giant like that with a sword with nothing but fist hell yes baby .
I could never put my finger on why Roger and Garp teamed up and who Garp fought if its not a 2v1 vs xebec .
So first I had to ask myself is Xebec that strong ? Now we see that Xebec have an absolute equal ,so no he is not that much stronger then the top tiers who all play on a similar playing field . Harald and Xebec are above for now but Garp and Roger can surpass them in fights .
Now That a 2v1 Garp and Roger vs Rocks is unlikely simply because he seem to weak for that (but so was shiki and Garp and sengoku still 2v1 him so there is always a possibility) Why would Garp and roger teamed up ?? What if Harald go to God valey but not to help the WG kill xebec, no its for save his friend ? What if he have remorse about the fight they just had and decide to help him in the end ? Then Garp is the best suited to fight and stop him .
Conclusion Rocks and Xebec being perfects equals is for Roger and Garp to beat them at God valey . By fighting Harald who is on Xebec side Garp will team up with roger who is fighting xebec even if it's not willingly.
Make sense I can be wrong totally but popcorn ready ;)
It smell like Roger vs Rocks and Garp vs Harald at God valey and I will enjoy this meal. Seing garp fighting a giant like that with a sword with nothing but fist hell yes baby .
I could never put my finger on why Roger and Garp teamed up and who Garp fought if its not a 2v1 vs xebec .
So first I had to ask myself is Xebec that strong ? Now we see that Xebec have an absolute equal ,so no he is not that much stronger then the top tiers who all play on a similar playing field . Harald and Xebec are above for now but Garp and Roger can surpass them in fights .
Now That a 2v1 Garp and Roger vs Rocks is unlikely simply because he seem to weak for that (but so was shiki and Garp and sengoku still 2v1 him so there is always a possibility) Why would Garp and roger teamed up ?? What if Harald go to God valey but not to help the WG kill xebec, no its for save his friend ? What if he have remorse about the fight they just had and decide to help him in the end ? Then Garp is the best suited to fight and stop him .
Conclusion Rocks and Xebec being perfects equals is for Roger and Garp to beat them at God valey . By fighting Harald who is on Xebec side Garp will team up with roger who is fighting xebec even if it's not willingly.
Make sense I can be wrong totally but popcorn ready ;)
because at the end he got cooked by the WG he clearly did something . Equal to xebec so he is a perfect Roger an Garp parallel . Garp lack of match ups . DIspute between friends being almost always temporary in any media ? Xebec saying he need him to be king of the world ? Naratively it make total sense . Harald is a good guy he will feel bad about betraying xebec friendship . SInce he is utile to the WG he have narative reason of being spared even if he lose at god valey unlike Xebec .
Theory.
Xebec, the family man, only loses on God Valley because his son is taken hostage.
@Blackbeard
Xebec, the family man, only loses on God Valley because his son is taken hostage.
@Blackbeard
Full blown fights? Obviously. But I feel like he's not skipping it this time given how much build up its now getting. Nothing left on the table. He's showing Shanks and Blackbeards mothers and them as infants, allusion to why the WG wants the island in the first place, and a slow assembly of Rocks' crew who take part on the event. Hell, we even got features from Garp and Roger, plus the fact that Shakky clearly plays a role in the entire event in some fashion (she's clearly the "treasure" of Hachinosu that was taken)
By the end of this we'll know
- How Rocks "died" (or if he's even dead), plus what happens to the rest of his crew (that didnt become Yonko or are still alive)
- Why God Valley was important and what happened to it
- And potentially what becomes of Blackbeard and how Teach finds/takes care of him.
Not even considering the fact that this FB really is about Harald and Loki lol. But he's been coasting and hasnt really left anything out yet from this flashback.
By the end of this we'll know
- How Rocks "died" (or if he's even dead), plus what happens to the rest of his crew (that didnt become Yonko or are still alive)
- Why God Valley was important and what happened to it
- And potentially what becomes of Blackbeard and how Teach finds/takes care of him.
Not even considering the fact that this FB really is about Harald and Loki lol. But he's been coasting and hasnt really left anything out yet from this flashback.
We know Shanks is connected to Luffy, but is Shanks trying to locate Luffy? It seems like the other way around. How would it make sense that Shanks wants Nika before he gets the OP, but is currently going for the OP and not Nika?
Plus, you ignored my earlier point, why can´t he collect the RP before Nika awakened, if he was really planning something big?
Agree to disagree I guess, I just think there´s too much bad blood and not a reason for either side to trust eachother.
Plus, you ignored my earlier point, why can´t he collect the RP before Nika awakened, if he was really planning something big?
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Agree to disagree I guess, I just think there´s too much bad blood and not a reason for either side to trust eachother.
He prob got locked captured in seastone chains as opposed to an outright loss
that being said, the fact thats he was captured most likely isnt stronger than his dad just yet.
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regardless I dont think he would be caught if he was levels stronger than shanks
simply isnt the case.
Shanks could very well capture Loki at sea, without outright 1v1ing him.