Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

[wordy]

Perona would have been about 2 years old when Moriah fought Kaido. I wonder if he found her as a orphan, maybe hanging out in the graveyard in Ringo...

Could Toko be her cousin? The ages are pretty far apart for them to be sisters.

 

[Worstgenhq]

You’re getting chewed out on twitter X, you need to double down

I have Worstgenforum and Reddit on my side

Also calling Oden a fool for what he did is basic knowledge, no one can tell me otherwise.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Perona would have been about 2 years old when Moriah fought Kaido. I wonder if he found her as a orphan, maybe hanging out in the graveyard in Ringo...

Could Toko be her cousin? The ages are pretty far apart for them to be sisters.

D: Oda-sensei, I have a question for you. Currently, my sister and I are fighting over what Perona's age is. Please end our fight for once and for all. Please also reveal Perona's height as a bonus. Please. Grade 6 age 12. P.N. Cherry Pop

O: Perona is currently 25. Her height is 160 cm. Back when she fought Luffy and the crew, she was 23. She loves Moria like a parent, since he found her when she was still a child and raised her ever since. She strongly believes that he is still alive, even after his disappearance at the Summit War.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

If all current Yonko are children of top tiers
And all Warlords have lore relevant bloodlines…

How insane is HIS family

Clearly the man HE is waiting for that WB spoke of. 😄

Did he ever specify Roger waiting for somebody or did he say HE (which could mean Rocks waiting for somebody)?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I have Worstgenforum

No, you do not.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

I have Worstgenforum and Reddit on my side

Also calling Oden a fool for what he did is basic knowledge, no one can tell me otherwise.

He is a fool though. He could have got help from healthy Rayleigh and Gaban, never mind Roger or at a pinch even WB, and would have freed Wano at any time. During the 5 years he could have sent word at any time and in 1 month at the most Kaido would have been done for.

 

[Ven437]

What he did to WB's and Roger's character was just the worst. His bad influence went well past Wano. Roger begged his rival and didn't conquer anything while WB didn't avenge his family. Ruined both of their careers in one sitting.

Roger and WB just got worse and worse after that.

Loden ruined potential of Yamato as well. When she wasnt pretending to be twerkden she was solid when she cosplayed him she is cringe trash

 

[Worstgenhq]

No, you do not.

Worstgen is behind me, they would fight for me.

 

[The DevilMaster]

Summary earlier this week please
@Lance_Dragonite

 

[Paperchampion23]

You know, I didn't mind Age of Calamity but now with BotW, AoC and TotK, I'm just kinda burned out of the Wild era and I cannot see more from that.
I especially find the imprisonment war quite boring in TotK. I guess a multiverse Hyrule Warriors would be way better imo.



I had no issue with it either. In fact, I didn't like how the compass was removed in SS.

When fans criticised the game, they criticised the motion controls, the weak sky world and the overworld being too linear.
Nintendo instead decided to do a complete 180° and made open world but removed any form of linearity plus story lol.
Also, who told them they need to remove the old dungeon formula as well? The fans merely criticised the things mentioned above, they loved the dungeons. I mean, if the highly linear and restrictive dungeon formula were a problem, they could just literally go back to A Link to the Past dungeon design which was far less linear.

Twilight Princess was almost perfect if it wasn't for the difficulty which was simply way too easy. The final boss hitting half a heart from your 20 hearts is too ridiculous. This mf needs to hit you 40 times to kill you.



TotK was seriously inbalanced when it comes to Link's weapon utility in dungeons. Like, they restricted nothing. Wall climbing, no restrictions on ascend (like, use some spiky roofs to not make everything available or design some anti-ascend green fields when Link actually has to find an opening to ascend above.

Zonai vehicles were not restrictive either. I mean, the dungeons handled you some Zonai devices; Link can use these instead of his own.

The thing is, shrines have a lot of these restrictions, even small keys. But the main dungeons have none of that?

Well, not that restrictions would save the mess that is the Water Temple. There's zero redemption about this dungeon.



The sky dungeon? Do you perhaps mean that dragonhead island? Was this even a dungeon? I thought the Construct Factory was the dungeon.

Either way, nothing comes close to the TotK Water Temple being the worst dungeon of the entire series. This is a prime example of pure lazy design. I mean, a sky water dungeon isn't bad. We could get a water-based Palace of Winds where Link uses ascend to reach platforms or buildings in a huge 8 floors super sky fortress - with broken buildings, floating platforms and so on. The gravity effect with the bubbles, waterfalls and the Zora suit sure would make funny and great exploration points in this Water Temple but we got this instead.



I guess they decided to do a gravity + water themed dungeon this time, especially since an underground Water Temple would be quite difficult to make without underwater gameplay.

However, it doesn't excuse what they did to this dungeon. I can come up with 1000 better ideas and many more people and yet, I cannot grasp why they decided to add some 3 small platforms in a small island. They implemented the gravity mechanism, the bubbles... for what? Almost none of the puzzles correctly used this mechanism. I can think of 1 or 2 examples but that's it. This dungeon was simply too small and easy-going.

Personally I was hoping for Underwater in ToTK. Theres so much unused potential in BoTWs bodies of water that I was surprised they didnt capitalize on that too, since other games in the series have.

Caves, the sky and the underground were awesome though as a package

 

[Worstgenhq]

He is a fool though. He could have got help from healthy Rayleigh and Gaban, never mind Roger or at a pinch even WB, and would have freed Wano at any time. During the 5 years he could have sent word at any time and in 1 month at the most Kaido would have been done for.

Bro he danced for 5 years while Orochi and Kaido making slaverly of his country.
Thought people who tried to kill his wife/children, would not broke their promise.
That is beyond naive, dude was a big fool for believing murders...

 

[Midnight Delight]

@Sir Yasheen

 

[Shiroyru]

oden isnt a poorly written character, him being flawed and failing wano is part of his story. everyone loved him but he also betrayed his people and his nation and felt like the humiliation was a way to atone and help them. him passing it on to the next generation so Momo could be the leader everyone dreamed of him being is like the whole thing

Headcanon. The story never presented Oden like this

 

[Ven437]

The worst thing about Days is that the fandom will hard gaslight you into thinking there are zero retcons in the entire story

Axel and roxas was perfect. Just two bros hanging out when roxas is tired of organization bs and wants to find out more about sora. Tries to leave but gets captured by riku

Days retcons into roxas wanting to take revenge on the org for this bumass girl and forcing her into the bromance is some pathetic beta shit

The whole story just nomura pulling shit out of his ass like 'sora farted in kh1 cutscene 304 imma connect that to ancient keyblade past' but days was straight up femdom fanfic tier

 

[NikaInParis]

WANO IF IT WERE PEAK:

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Bro he danced for 5 years while Orochi and Kaido making slaverly of his country.
Thought people who tried to kill his wife/children, would not broke their promise.
That is beyond naive, dude was a big fool for believing murders...

Not a big fool, Worlds Silliest Fool (WSF). When Pirate King Roger owes you, WSM WB is your big brother and (likely) WSS Rayleigh offered to help you and yet you still decline because duh, let me dance and boil to death, that is beyond normal sillyness. It's not as if WB let pride stop him from rallying all his troops when up against the tough Marines

 

[warsame zaylai]

I have Worstgenforum and Reddit on my side

Also calling Oden a fool for what he did is basic knowledge, no one can tell me otherwise.

Did roger came to pirate island for shakky ?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Perona would have been about 2 years old when Moriah fought Kaido. I wonder if he found her as a orphan, maybe hanging out in the graveyard in Ringo...

Could Toko be her cousin? The ages are pretty far apart for them to be sisters.

Aunt was my thought, cousin makes sense.

It's funny I'd never really realized but we haven't seen Moria really do anything that evil. Even him grave robbing was him trying to get back at Kaido to save Wano and avenge is allies who fell. Do we have any proof that he targeted civilians via Thriller Bark? Wasn't it just pirates?

Moria has a legit claim for being a top ten dad.In this series

 

[sparrow210]

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

oden isnt a poorly written character, him being flawed and failing wano is part of his story. everyone loved him but he also betrayed his people and his nation and felt like the humiliation was a way to atone and help them. him passing it on to the next generation so Momo could be the leader everyone dreamed of him being is like the whole thing

People here unfortunately dont appreciate characters like this
They rather simp for gary stu's like shanks.