Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

[MonochromeYoru]

Mihawk..

is not in the chapter. go back to sleep

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Mihawk..

Roger >>

 

[MonsterKaido]

Whitebeard showed better AP and took way more powerful attacks in Marineford than Kaido did

No and no. His attack couldn't put pre skip BB down. Akainu recovered in 2 chapters iirc. Kaido's attack killed post adv coc G4 luffy. Flame bagua >> as well.

You have to insane to claim WB took more powerful attacks as well. Akainu aside it was mainly fodders doing damage.

 

[GeneralP123]

Yeah but we don't even have specialists or anything

Shanks
Roger
Rayleigh
Gaban
Oden

All just use ACOC. There's honestly no reason for Rayleigh and Gaban to fight the same. No one in the crew is any different. And now we have the same with Rocks and Harald, who are (probably) the top 2 in recent years

Well Rocks has his unique explosion creating swordsmanship coupled with his conqueror haki and Harald has insane brute force + conqueror haki.

I see what you're saying, but it's unfair to say that all boxers fight the same just because all of them use fists and gloves.

 

[soupongo]

@MarineHQ @ZenZu @Elder Lee Hung @Kurozumi Wiwi
King Kuri was the last Goat Oda made before becoming an irredeemable hack

Future sight master(aka he specialized in observation Haki, no other character is really portrayed like he was at it)
Awakened Paramecia that was similar to a Logia
His own meme/gimmick about his face
an actual fight,not just a black lightning clash

Now in GV, we have literally like 10 guys who fight the same, and basically have the same personalities doing black lightning clashes. And the one with the biggest lightning wins or some BS

 

[MonsterKaido]

An old cancer wb had better DC by your own admission. That's enough to say prime beard is above kaido.

Kaido himself putting shank alongside legends and lolden is not portrayal i guess. We've had this argument before dude. and you even said shank could be above kaido at one point

Only one DC attack in shima yurashi which has no AP. Kaido can fly plus his ability to drop Islands is comparable I will say.

Nah Kaido factually has best portrayal. That is not debatable at all lol.

 

[GeneralP123]

Agreed. Kaido has everything. Roger will have stronger haki but waido has DF to cover the haki gap.

Yeah I think it's fair to say Roger has better haki, but I just don't see it being miles better than Kaido's, just slightly better.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No and no. His attack couldn't put pre skip BB down. Akainu recovered in 2 chapters iirc. Kaido's attack killed post adv coc G4 luffy. Flame bagua >> as well.

You have to insane to claim WB took more powerful attacks as well. Akainu aside it was mainly fodders doing damage.

One attack had an admiral royally fucked up and Blackbeard has a few unique body that allows him to handle attacks better than even Big Mom.

And the fuck are you talking about? Whitebeard fought multiple admirals. One of which would’ve cleared literally all of Kaidos gauntlet bar Luffy.

Whitebeard had by far the more brutal gauntlet it’s not even a competition.

 

[Yoho]

Yeah I think it's fair to say Roger has better haki, but I just don't see it being miles better than Kaido's, just slightly better.

I never knew why people seem to think Roger era top tiers are leagues over Shanks era top tiers

 

[GeneralP123]

I never knew why people seem to think Roger era top tiers are leagues over Shanks era top tiers

Me neither, Kaido showcased literally everything, great haki, insane physical stats, very good mythical fruit, yet many people think Roger wouldn't struggle against him.

I get that Roger has better haki, but Kaido has so many abilities that Roger doesn't.

Funnily enough, Shanks has better haki feats than Roger atm.

 

[MonsterKaido]

One attack had an admiral royally fucked up and Blackbeard has a few unique body that allows him to handle attacks better than even Big Mom.

And the fuck are you talking about? Whitebeard fought multiple admirals. One of which would’ve cleared literally all of Kaidos gauntlet bar Luffy.

Whitebeard had by far the more brutal gauntlet it’s not even a competition.

? A sneak attack? Base Kaido with nameless attack negged an oden.

WB performed poorly lol. He only took one laser from Kizaru. Even bonney withstood laser barrier. Kizaru got better of WB and blitzed him. Kuzan was also doing good before jozu interfered.

Nah. WB barely fought admirals lmfao clown. Had to sneak attack lakainu to beat him 😭

 

[Yoho]

Me neither, Kaido showcased literally everything, great haki, insane physical stats, very good mythical fruit, yet many people think Roger wouldn't struggle against him.

I get that Roger has better haki, but Kaido has so many abilities that Roger doesn't.

Funnily enough, Shanks has better haki feats than Roger atm.

Shanks + Kaido vs Roger + Whitebeard I can see a strong argument for Shanks and Kaido winning

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Nah Kaido factually has best portrayal. That is not debatable at all lol.

this is literally you. have some shame bro

 

[GeneralP123]

Shanks + Kaido vs Roger + Whitebeard I can see a strong argument for Shanks and Kaido winning

For sure, I'm sure Oda showing Shanks using Roger's attacks is his way of telling us Shanks matched Roger when it comes to fighting ability, he can replicate anything Roger could do.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

? A sneak attack? Base Kaido with nameless attack negged an oden.

WB performed poorly lol. He only took one laser from Kizaru. Even bonney withstood laser barrier. Kizaru got better of WB and blitzed him. Kuzan was also doing good before jozu interfered.

Nah. WB barely fought admirals lmfao clown. Had to sneak attack lakainu to beat him 😭

Calling Whitebeards attack on Sakazuki a sneak attack is crazy cope when we literally see Sakazuki preparing to take the attack and people saying Whitebeards right behind him.

Don’t be salty cause Whitebeard had a goated end and an insane gauntlet while Kaido got a handful of fodder that were negged by an admiral and a clown who got fed by one

 

[MonsterKaido]

this is literally you. have some shame bro

Me having shanks above Kaido =\= Shanks having better portrayal lol.

Shanks is oda's fav so it's possible he may end up being stronger BUT Kaido undoubtedly has better portrayal. Again that is factual.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Calling Whitebeards attack on Sakazuki a sneak attack is crazy cope when we literally see Sakazuki preparing to take the attack and people saying Whitebeards right behind him.

Don’t be salty cause Whitebeard had a goated end and an insane gauntlet while Kaido got a handful of fodder that were negged by an admiral and a clown who got fed by one

It was a clearly a sneak attack lol. What else you can call that?

I am not salty. You are plainly biased is all.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

this is literally you. have some shame bro

L theme

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It was a clearly a sneak attack lol. What else you can call that?

I am not salty. You are plainly biased is all.

An attack?? You don’t stand to aura farm before attacking when it’s a sneak attack. You strike them without anyone knowing you’re there. Like Kaido did to oden.

You’re clearly salty lmao

 

[GeneralP123]

Me having shanks above Kaido =\= Shanks having better portrayal lol.

Shanks is oda's fav so it's possible he may end up being stronger BUT Kaido undoubtedly has better portrayal. Again that is factual.

Shanks and Roger can have better haki than Kaido, yet if they got hit by a fraction of the attacks Kaido got hit with, they would be either crippled or dead.