Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1159 Spoilers Discussion
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-It is starting to look so painfully obvious that Blackbeard is the endgame villain. Blackbeard is chaotic evil, Imu is lawful evil. Joyboy is from 800 years ago, Davy Jones is from 800 years ago, Zunesha is from 800 years ago, proof that Imu is from 800 years ago is that he had joyboy's hat in his possession, clearly has some kind of immortality, wanted to wipe out the Davy jones clan. Had Luffy and Blackbeard's wanted poster along with shirahoshi(ancient weapons user) until he decided to eliminate Vivi as a priority.
-The alabasta arc is the most overlooked one, Luffy, Zoro and Chopper were stuck in a mysterious hole which they got out of that had poneglyphs everywhere which makes Vivi's lineage more interesting.
-Joyboy(monkey clan maybe) and Davy Jones had to be rivals from 800 years ago. Luffy has the strongest Zoan (god and power of imagination), Blackbeard has the strongest logia DF(makes DF users and their abilities weaker) Imu might have the strongest Paramecia DF to make the Gorosei his subjects that can teleport anywhere with a pentagram, has some kind of connection with Gunko for Gunko being shown with Imu and Rocks eavesdropping, Imu using Gunko's DF ability himself to kill cobra and injure Sabo and take possession of Gunko's body forming wings using some random book to grab a gun shoot a giant then use lifespan to force them as his subject while using a pentagram.
Blackbeard was strong enough with no DFs to injure Shanks eye and now he has 2 powerful DFs(and an ancient weapon from Wano). At this point it's a death flag for shanks crew if he clashes with blackbeards crew assuming the strawhats defeat the world government and then focus their objectives against black beards' crew next where Luffy fights Blackbeard, Usopp fights Auger, Chopper fights Doc Q and Zoro fights Shiryu.
-The alabasta arc is the most overlooked one, Luffy, Zoro and Chopper were stuck in a mysterious hole which they got out of that had poneglyphs everywhere which makes Vivi's lineage more interesting.
-Joyboy(monkey clan maybe) and Davy Jones had to be rivals from 800 years ago. Luffy has the strongest Zoan (god and power of imagination), Blackbeard has the strongest logia DF(makes DF users and their abilities weaker) Imu might have the strongest Paramecia DF to make the Gorosei his subjects that can teleport anywhere with a pentagram, has some kind of connection with Gunko for Gunko being shown with Imu and Rocks eavesdropping, Imu using Gunko's DF ability himself to kill cobra and injure Sabo and take possession of Gunko's body forming wings using some random book to grab a gun shoot a giant then use lifespan to force them as his subject while using a pentagram.
Blackbeard was strong enough with no DFs to injure Shanks eye and now he has 2 powerful DFs(and an ancient weapon from Wano). At this point it's a death flag for shanks crew if he clashes with blackbeards crew assuming the strawhats defeat the world government and then focus their objectives against black beards' crew next where Luffy fights Blackbeard, Usopp fights Auger, Chopper fights Doc Q and Zoro fights Shiryu.
@MonsterKaido Young Waido looking good 
It seems the implication is the Davy part of the D clan is even more infamous than the regular D clan
Oda is now power creeping the D clan. I think he’s realized just how “not special” the ads have been since he started making everyone and their momma a D. So now he’s made A more Special D clan within the D clan with these Davy people
Oda is now power creeping the D clan. I think he’s realized just how “not special” the ads have been since he started making everyone and their momma a D. So now he’s made A more Special D clan within the D clan with these Davy people
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The strawhats have absolutely not "wiped town off the map". Causing damage while fighting is not the same as consistently destroying towns, and messing up a country.
We don't know what happened during Ace vs Teach, but the town was never said to have been "wiped off the map". Are casualties possible? Maybe.
Akainu and Kuzan fought on an abandoned island with no population on purpose.
Egghead was literally evacuated. Are you retarded?
Corazon wanted to arrest Doflamingo because he believed Doflamingo to be an evil pirate, which he was. That doesn't change the fact that Oda did try to humanize Doflamingo.
I'm pretty sure the boss of pirate island is in fact a pirate. I don't think that's up for a question. The difference between Xebec and the revolutionaries is that Xebec doesn't care about the oppressed people of the world, he cares about getting power for himself. Pretty simple
It's interesting that despite his strong belief in politics he allegedly has, he has never stated a single thing he intends to do to improve the world, or the common persons life. It's all about him and his ambition. Compare that to Dragon, who last time we saw was worrying about potential wars over territory harming the average person.
His journey starts in Mariejois because he thought that by kidnapping Kings(btw, did those random kings deserved to be kidnapped?) he would get Imu to give up his position lmao. That isn't calculated or well thought out, or maybe he's just a retard.
The Gorosei wiping out a threat to their power does not make that threat a good thing. Again, you can LITERALLY, say the same thing about Doffy.
Or any of the prisoners from Impel down level 6, who were also to be erased. We know for a fact that Croocdile, etc are completely evil people, despite the government wanting to erase them from history. Him being okay with disloyal people leaving his crew does not mean he doesn't intend to rule over them. What do you think "King of the world" means lol?
1. Yeah, my objective case for him being evil is that he goes around destroying towns, messing up countries etc. If someone did that irl, we would obviously all agree they are evil.
2. The government erased him from history to avoid copycats I guess? All that's relevant is that we don't even know what propaganda would be used against Rocks. There's no reason to assume the reader would know about any propaganda about Rocks.
3. Yeah, the narrator doesn't need to call him "evil" because that would be moralizing. We can judge from the actions that he's describing, the author objectively sees him as evil..
We don't know what happened during Ace vs Teach, but the town was never said to have been "wiped off the map". Are casualties possible? Maybe.
Akainu and Kuzan fought on an abandoned island with no population on purpose.
Egghead was literally evacuated. Are you retarded?
Corazon wanted to arrest Doflamingo because he believed Doflamingo to be an evil pirate, which he was. That doesn't change the fact that Oda did try to humanize Doflamingo.
I'm pretty sure the boss of pirate island is in fact a pirate. I don't think that's up for a question. The difference between Xebec and the revolutionaries is that Xebec doesn't care about the oppressed people of the world, he cares about getting power for himself. Pretty simple
It's interesting that despite his strong belief in politics he allegedly has, he has never stated a single thing he intends to do to improve the world, or the common persons life. It's all about him and his ambition. Compare that to Dragon, who last time we saw was worrying about potential wars over territory harming the average person.
His journey starts in Mariejois because he thought that by kidnapping Kings(btw, did those random kings deserved to be kidnapped?) he would get Imu to give up his position lmao. That isn't calculated or well thought out, or maybe he's just a retard.
The Gorosei wiping out a threat to their power does not make that threat a good thing. Again, you can LITERALLY, say the same thing about Doffy.
Or any of the prisoners from Impel down level 6, who were also to be erased. We know for a fact that Croocdile, etc are completely evil people, despite the government wanting to erase them from history. Him being okay with disloyal people leaving his crew does not mean he doesn't intend to rule over them. What do you think "King of the world" means lol?
1. Yeah, my objective case for him being evil is that he goes around destroying towns, messing up countries etc. If someone did that irl, we would obviously all agree they are evil.
2. The government erased him from history to avoid copycats I guess? All that's relevant is that we don't even know what propaganda would be used against Rocks. There's no reason to assume the reader would know about any propaganda about Rocks.
3. Yeah, the narrator doesn't need to call him "evil" because that would be moralizing. We can judge from the actions that he's describing, the author objectively sees him as evil..
The Government's literal argument was "this fucking weapons could destroy the entire world, so it's too dangerous for anyone to study things that can lead to discovering them... because doing so would destroy the fucking world".
Which Is not a pure evil type of explanation at all.
We know there was something more, but it made sense in a Machiavellian manner.
And It made sense good people were ok with this.
Hell, before 907/908 people didn't actually believe the Gorosei were CDs because of how different they were from them.
Compare that to now LOL.
Which Is not a pure evil type of explanation at all.
We know there was something more, but it made sense in a Machiavellian manner.
And It made sense good people were ok with this.
Hell, before 907/908 people didn't actually believe the Gorosei were CDs because of how different they were from them.
Compare that to now LOL.
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