One Piece Chapter 1162: Battle Royal

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#406
#406
Master OF Haki said:
In one piece strength level is strongly tied to your genes, if you're parents are strong, then you're most likely going to be strong–might not be as strong as your parents, but strong nonetheless a.k.a Katakuri as an example. No matter how much the story tries to push the "will=Haki BS," the reality on the ground shows a completely different result. 99% of strong characters in OP come ether from strong parents, have a special bloodline (a.k.a D, Davy, Shanks' mother), or you're part of some royal bloodline like Sabo, Sanji, Zoro, Doflamingo, Oden, Loki etc. Plus the lab experiments, almost forgot about them.

The idea that characters become stronger by having tough fights is utter BS. All the strong characters are strong because of their genes, Luffy would be strong regardless whether he had his fights or was constantly trained by Garp. As matter of fact, he most likely would be stronger by now if he was forced to train under Garp (or even on the level of average marine recruiter) 24/7, just like during his time skip. I mean look at Kid, he doesn't lack the will or the hard fights, but yet he's not as strong as Luffy (or at least comparable to him) because he had no Rayleigh, Hyogoro or Gaban to train.

And yes, I know all about the narrative and perception bla bla bla... there's the narrative that the story is trying to push, and then there's the reality–no matter what Oda tries, he ends up with a character that has ether a unique bloodline, strong parents, OP DF, some Kind of experiment, unique weapon etc. Or all of them combined in one single character. The only character for now, that doesn't have ether of those things–ironically is Koby. His strength solely comes from his training ether by the marine instructors or Garp. And yes, I know that he disobeyed Akainu and showed some will power, but no matter how much the story tries to push Koby, he will never have the will power of even Ussop, let alone someone stronger. So no, I reject the notion that the story is pushing, strong characters are strong because they have good genes. If they're lucky, they'll get a good mentor, or they'll struggle like Kid.
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However, you need to fight to the death to become stronger
Luffy didn't know anything about advcoc until he was one-shotted by Kaido and nearly died many times
Luffy couldn't achieve awakening until he fought Kaido to the death and literally died and his heart stopped beating
Luffy was able to improve his advcocoo when he was under pressure in fighting kata
Law figured out how to use haki better when he fought the Yonkos to the death
Yes, genes are important, but without a lot of fights and to the death it's not going to make you the strongest even Shanks was trained by Roger since he was a child
 
grey matter

grey matter

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#407
#407
Finally read the full chapter, cause the older link was dogshit, missing many pages. And the reddit link still used that weird translations

Amazing chapter. Rocks hype. Amazing Rocks/Whitebeard moments as well.
GIGAbeard redeeming himself!!
Some good hype moments for Kaido too.

Not really a fan of what happened to Garling, but it's Rocks!!
Is Garling even a top tier in this flashback tho? Can't be I guess.
 
Mighty Action X

Mighty Action X

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#409
#409
Oda is obviously setting the magnitude of being chosen by Nika. Because in this entire flashback, it was shown how Rocks was ideal with everything except for the fact that he wasn't chosen by Nika. I mean he could have won everything and probably even saved his clan from Imu's demonitization if only he had the power of Nika.
 
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