Theory Imus real identity and Blackbeards revenge

#1
Hey Guys, I didnt post anything in this forum for a very long time and I havent checked recent theories but I wanted to share a speculation with you that crossed my mind that could explain a few story developments and key factors that are still a well kept mystery. BUT if you heard something similar already somewhere else dont hesitate to tell me and sorry for stealing your time. So lets begin.

Something was said in the last chapter by a certain character which felt quite strange. But not only the was he said it also the way this person acts, speaks and looks is a novum in the world of One Piece. And of course I am talking about Imu or how he likes to call himself, Mu.

He said that Xebec doesnt know the connection between Imu and Davy D Jones. Something tells me that this connection is not a meta connection like sharing the same goal, path or will. I think we have to take this hint by Oda rather word for word.

Didnt you wonder about Imus design? The living black Silhouette with scary eyes? Even while appearing chapter after chapter he remains a silhouette. Oda does this frequently when introducing a new important character. But this is over the top. Even Roger and Garp and every other person on God Valley describes Imu as a monster or a thing. The way he talks. Like he would stand above everything and everyone, a true king who shapes the world and destiny of people like he does not feel any empathy for humanity and peoples emotion. Like he didnt even grew up with warm and loving feeling of a real society. Because he didnt.

And then there is his power. A dark, shapeless power that transforms himself and others in demonic creatures with additional power when Imu manages to touch this person. It reminds very much of a devil fruit power. A very strong devil fruit power. Its rarely seen that a devil fruit user can extend the power of the devil fruit to another person. So how does heute manage to do this? And what am I aiming for?

I think the key to this answer is Odas genius storytelling and foreshadowing. And the answer to Imus identity lies in the endgame of One Piece and therefore in Blackbeard. The son of Xebec, who was turned into a demonic creature in front of Blackbeards eyes when he was a kid. Blackbeard final goal will be taking revenge for Xebec by killing Imu and taking the throne as the new ruler of the WORLD. His first and most important mission for his goal was to obtain a certain devil fruit. The Yami Yami No Mi. A devil fruit to counter devil fruits. Everything Blackbeard does is done On purpose and with a deep plan. So ask yourself why he needs to counter the power of devil fruits? Because he wants to be the strongest? No. People like Shanks would still overpower him. This is not about gaining power or the lifestyle of a pirate, hunting treasures. On God Valley Oda arranged a meeting of the strongest people: Roger, Xebec, Garp, Kaido and Big Mom. Even together they werent able to hurt Imu. Why? Because they never really had a chance. Tell me this isnt a great coincedence. A villain who seems invincible. And an endgame character seeking revenge searching for a power with no specific use but to counter devil fruits. So either Imus devil fruit protects him from getting OR the reason why he takes no damage is because he is not human but a power. A manifestation of a power. A manifestation of a devil fruit. A devil fruit itself, separated from its user and form. A true manifestation of the soul of the devil fruit. In this case the Demon devil fruit. Call it whatever you want. Likely a Zoan Type. He can extend a devil fruit like power by touching other people because he IS the devil fruit.

Imu reverse means Umi. Umi is japanese for the sea. The sea is the only known weakness of devil fruits. A classic foreshadowing by Oda. So in conclusion I believe that Blackbeard will be the key to defeat the devil fruit which calls itself Imu. Maybe the former owner of the Devil fruit type demon was no other than Davy D Jones. The soul of his devil fruit, a fact that Oda stated many times, was so evil that it wanted to be more than a simple provider of power. It wanted to write its own story, to control its user and become the king of the world. I dont know how, but Imu managed to seperate from Jones body, likely leaving him sealed somewhere in the sea. Without dying, Imu would not be transformed into a devil fruit again and can live as long as Davy D Jones remains sealed. Two seperated souls, the power to unite them, turning them again into One Piece. This could be the final act.

The connection between Imu and Davy D Jones. A devil fruit user and his devil fruit power. A physical connection. A truly dark force that will be challenged by the warrior of liberation. The sun god. A laughing, kind warrior with pure intentions. Luffy.
 
#3
いむ (Imu) rückwärts ist nicht うみ (Umi), sondern むい (Mui). むい Bedeutet ohne Rang oder Müßiggang. Dies setzt voraus, dass Oda Hiragana für いむ verwendet. Dasselbe gilt auch für Katakana. Ich kann nicht viel Kanji.
Unfortunatly i dont speak any japanase, so thanks for your Input!

I believe that many mangaka including Oda use different languages for foreshadowing and sometimes they mix phonetics into it. So I still believe its a valid point, because we should not concrentrate on one language
 
#5
I have sometimes wondered what would happen if Vegapunk gave a "clone" of Chopper's Human Fruit to a Devil Fruit. If you can "feed" Devil Fruits to any inanimate objects, what would happen? Would the Devil Fruit turn back into the person who's "dream" originally formed the Devil Fruit in the first place?

Imu does spend a lot of time in a garden, like a plant would enjoy. And Imu does have a lot of powers, like what a Devil Fruit that hasn't fully "developed" might have. A Fruit that hasn't fully solidified or settled on a "dream".

It's a interesting idea. And I am amused by the mental image of Imu saying "Don't eat me!" That would explain why Imu's so fearful all the time. Imu's surrounded by "predators".




I feel like it's not likely, though? I don't feel like that's were Oda's going with it. But, I can't really argue too much against it, either. There's so much that we don't know about Imu.

I will say though, why would a Devil Fruit be interested in Lili? Unless the wish that formed the Devil Fruit had something to do with Davy or Joyboy and Lili? Hmm...

You know what? It's a interesting idea. I'm not buying it right now. But, I am willing to mull it over more. It's outside the box thinking and I appreciate that.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#6
All we see from Imu now has already been seen from Perona/Sugar.
Touching the enemies and affecting them is the same as Perona's ghosts making people depressed or Sugar turning them into toys.
Why cant Imu be damaged? This should be obvious, already seen from Perona, she couldnt be damaged either. And then Usopp figured out that what he sees is not her real body and went and found it hidden. We already know this is not Imu's real body these characters are attacking, the real body is on top of the Red Line.

Regarding Blackbeard, yes, he is destined to dethrone Imu.
I have been telling this for quite some while to the gang that beleives that Imu is a final villain.
 
#8
I have sometimes wondered what would happen if Vegapunk gave a "clone" of Chopper's Human Fruit to a Devil Fruit. If you can "feed" Devil Fruits to any inanimate objects, what would happen? Would the Devil Fruit turn back into the person who's "dream" originally formed the Devil Fruit in the first place?

Imu does spend a lot of time in a garden, like a plant would enjoy. And Imu does have a lot of powers, like what a Devil Fruit that hasn't fully "developed" might have. A Fruit that hasn't fully solidified or settled on a "dream".

It's a interesting idea. And I am amused by the mental image of Imu saying "Don't eat me!" That would explain why Imu's so fearful all the time. Imu's surrounded by "predators".




I feel like it's not likely, though? I don't feel like that's were Oda's going with it. But, I can't really argue too much against it, either. There's so much that we don't know about Imu.

I will say though, why would a Devil Fruit be interested in Lili? Unless the wish that formed the Devil Fruit had something to do with Davy or Joyboy and Lili? Hmm...

You know what? It's a interesting idea. I'm not buying it right now. But, I am willing to mull it over more. It's outside the box thinking and I appreciate that.
Thats a nice idea. 🤔
 
#10
I have sometimes wondered what would happen if Vegapunk gave a "clone" of Chopper's Human Fruit to a Devil Fruit. If you can "feed" Devil Fruits to any inanimate objects, what would happen? Would the Devil Fruit turn back into the person who's "dream" originally formed the Devil Fruit in the first place?

Imu does spend a lot of time in a garden, like a plant would enjoy. And Imu does have a lot of powers, like what a Devil Fruit that hasn't fully "developed" might have. A Fruit that hasn't fully solidified or settled on a "dream".

It's a interesting idea. And I am amused by the mental image of Imu saying "Don't eat me!" That would explain why Imu's so fearful all the time. Imu's surrounded by "predators".




I feel like it's not likely, though? I don't feel like that's were Oda's going with it. But, I can't really argue too much against it, either. There's so much that we don't know about Imu.

I will say though, why would a Devil Fruit be interested in Lili? Unless the wish that formed the Devil Fruit had something to do with Davy or Joyboy and Lili? Hmm...

You know what? It's a interesting idea. I'm not buying it right now. But, I am willing to mull it over more. It's outside the box thinking and I appreciate that.
That would explain why Imu talks like a kid although I wonder if it’s possible that Imu isn't a devil fruit that was given one but the actual tree that gave life to devil fruit itself. I mean if you can give one to a gun you can give one to a tree right ?
 

AverageBuggyEnjoyer

Buggy Too Stronk!
#13
Akai is a character from Detective Conan. His photo below is his real look, the one in @Akai's Avy is him in disguise as he's undercover hunting a crime organization
As a big fan of Akai Shuichi from Detective Conan, I picked "Akai" as my username on OJ.


Then when we moved here it was already taken (@Akai :kriwhat:)
And that's the sad backstory of how I became the bootleg Akai. Akai the second version. The Dollar Store Akai :pepehands:
 
#14
Imu managed to seperate from Jones body, likely leaving him sealed somewhere in the sea. Without dying, Imu would not be transformed into a devil fruit again and can live as long as Davy D Jones remains sealed. Two seperated souls, the power to unite them, turning them again into One Piece. This could be the final act.
Great speculation, makes a lot of sense when you consider the slow but steady world sinking, as if the two (Imu and Jones) are silently fighting each other for the past centuries.
 
#19
BTW, Davy Jones was cursed by the devil, because Imu is the devil

This could be a classic "half true quote" by Robin, a classic myth. Half true because nobody knows what really happened. The "curse" could hint a betrayal and a bad fate. And the truth would be that Jones can be found on the seafloor. Because i heavily doubt that Oda makes a real God and devil part of the story.
 
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