This is all fine, and could have been a plot point, like, 10 years ago? At that point, luffy and Kidd were not really on anything like good terms, and were just coming into the new world, both dreaming of taking down Yonko. Sure, there wasn´t necessarily a particular situation where this could have happened as per the current story, but it wouldn´t have been impossible for Oda to have Kidd and Luffy end up in the same island in the early new world days, FMI, Ph, DR or whatever, really. At that point in the story, there power levels and in verse status would be close, and a simple pirate fight would have worked, but at this point in the story? On Elbaf rn, you have Imu about to enslave the entire country to lead a final war of demons, and he´s probably connected to the deaths of Harald and also Xebec as shown in the flashback, and there´s also the Gunko plot point stuff, and you also think Kidd will show up, and fight Luffy over their opinions on Shanks? That just lacks the stakes of the current vibes of OP, which is about the entire world drowning, who will be the king of the world etc. Btw, Luffy also said he wants to take down Shanks, so him pearl clutching so hard he fights Kidd over wanting to do the same would just be beyond hypocritical, and I´m not even sure why anyone would even root for him in that situation. Also, Kidd´s crew doesn´t really have people to fight the SHP, so that´s also an issue.
This is a fair point. Personally, I think there's enough time for all of this to occur on Elbaf and there's only a good chance Kidd will be involved in some way. Even regarding Gunko, there are some interesting theories about a potential connection between her and Kidd.
If a fight between Luffy/Kidd, Kidd will likely start it. However, for the first time in a while I don't feel like i can predict Luffy's behavior in this situation.
How would Luffy react to learning about the incident between Shanks/Dorry/Broggy, the destruction of Kidd's crew and his Ship? I genuinely don't know.
And honestly it would interesting to see Luffy's reaction to Kidd proclaiming to defeat Shanks or take revenge.
Has luffy ever claimed he wanted to take down Shanks? I genuinely don't recall that.
Something else I forgot to mention that could ignite this conflict, is potential that Shanks is not entirely who we think he is...What if Shanks played a role in Victoria's passing? Maybe that is why Kidd is so hellbent going after Shanks. This is just one idea. And honestly, I don't believe Shanks is as straightforward as he seems...My point is, Kidd may willingly or unwillingly reveal information to Luffy about this. Luffy would likely be in denial about it first. This seems a bit more outlandish, but i think its a real possibility.
I've always viewed this as a solely, Kidd vs Luffy thing. So I think it woukd be captain vs captain.
I also wanted a Loki fight against the strawhats, but the way the story is going, with him being seriously injured, and now teaming up with Luffy to fight Imu.... it really does not look like that will ever happen. I don´t seriously think he will backstab Luffy to work with Kidd after that. And yeah, Kidd could have some connection to the burned man, I don´t really disagree with that, I guess.
I guess I meant moreso as Loki being potentially involved with Kidd getting at Shanks at some point. And luffy getting dragged into that conflict. Loki is a strange character tho, I have no idea what his path will look like in Elbaf. He's one of the few characters which truly feel unpredictable.
That´s fine and all, and i don´t doubt Kidd will return(no one really dies in OP) and get stronger, but it´s pretty rare for Oda to have Luffy be punching down, which it realistically would be. Luffy´s status in verse is simply higher, which is why Oda most likely be focusing on having Luffy fight characters who are around his status or above, Akainu, Imu, Teach, idk Warcury or whatever, etc etc. And noticably, these characters are all like, more evil then Kidd, and play better in the antagonistic role. Kidd at this point would realistically just be an ally of Luffy against the WG or whoever
Kidd is weaker than luffy, however I don't think the gap as astronomical as people make it seem. Something many people don't realize, Kidd and luffy have very similar fighting styles. They're both brawlers. Relying on physical strength and will to win fights. If you remember udon prison, Oda went out of his way to show the two equal physically in seastone cuffs. Keep in mind Luffy has a mythical Zoan fruit and two arms and Kidd a paramecia fruit, one arm and a normal human body. Id argue, in pure raw physical strength, Kidd is the strongest supernova. Something many people do realize, while Kidd uses his fruit to connect his metals, the majority of the movement of the metal is done through his own arms.
Edit: And regarding will, look at Kidd vs Kaido. He likely knew his chance of defeat vs Kaido was extremely high and decided to fight anyway. Thats how strong his will is and thats also why Kaido kept him alive. Another interesting point - when Law met Hawkins, Hawkins himself said that Kidd will die because he'll never submit to Kaido. Kidd's will is just as strong as Luffy's.
Before fighting Luffy, Kidd will need a power up and even during the fight vs Luffy/Joyboy, he will likely need another. Personally, I think there's more to his fruit or himself that we don't know about yet. Some of his feats, especially tanking fears, feel a bit odd for a normal human.
And sure, there are more characters who are more evil than Kidd. And yeah Kidd will be in the final war vs the WG. No way Luffy is fighting Imu solo, atleast not at the beginning of the fight.
