Controversial Itachi vs Dolflamingo

[ZenZu]

Amaterasu would definitely be very slow if Doflamingo had prior knowledge of it but his CoO isn’t refined enough to the point where he can see what it does. He’s not gonna escape the LOS before it lands. At best he can try blocking it with strings but that gives Itachi a window of time to do another move as well.

Raikage doesn't even have CoO and he dodged it despite no prior knowledge iirc. Doflamingo will have zero issues with amaterasu. It's a non factor.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

It is both shown flying through the air and chasing Sasuke here

You can see Amaterasu being a ball spawning and following Sasuke lmao. Sasuke was simply running faster than itachi's LOS.

Raikage anticipated and dodged Ama before it launched lmao. The whole point of that panel is Ama spawning on Raikage's afterimage showcasing his speed.

Zetsu says it spawns wherever the user's LOS lands at.

 

[SkySanji]

You can see Amaterasu being a ball spawning and following Sasuke lmao. Sasuke was simply running faster than itachi's LOS.

Raikage anticipated and dodged Ama before it launched lmao. The whole point of that panel is Ama spawning on Raikage's afterimage showcasing his speed.

Zetsu says it spawns wherever the user's LOS lands at.

I blatantly showed that it is a traveling projectile and not a simple "he looks at you and you're on fire", continue living in denial if you want.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Raikage doesn't even have CoO and he dodged it despite no prior knowledge iirc. Doflamingo will have zero issues with amaterasu. It's a non factor.

I'll have to reread it then because iirc Raikage had some knowledge about the ability or sensed the chakra buildup in Sasuke's eye.

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I blatantly showed that it is a traveling projectile and not a simple "he looks at you and you're on fire", continue living in denial if you want.

It's only a traveling projectile if the person can dodge the LOS. If he's in there then it spawns on him. It wrks out like a portal that instantly sends something out but the portal takes time to spawn.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Lmao tac trolling hard with yata mirror thing

 

[Sentinel]

Because he's a 1k old goo baby that has meddled with multiple reincarnates and the Uchiha line. He knows more about the Narutoverse than we do from an outside perspective. If he thinks these weapons live up to their hype, they most likely do.

He can be a 2k or 3k old goo baby and Black Zetsu still didn't have full intel on everything. A reason why he was treating it as a rumor.

Bold part: That's the thing. Zetsu proved to not be a reliable source since he was wanking the shit out of Kirin few minutes ago and Itachi straight up debunked his hype. But somehow we gotta pretend this time Zetsu was 100% right about another "overpowered" thing which apparently can do everything?

He specifically said, with Totsuga Sword and Yata Mirror, Itachi is invincible but we know that's a fallacy because nobody is truly invincible and Kishimoto sure isn't drawing any character like that.

It didn't block Kirin because Itachi cannot manifest a susano'o that fast & was damaged by Kirin, Susano'o's Ribcage or V2 form took that.

So Yata Mirror wasn't even the one blocking Kirin? It makes it even worse considering Yata Mirror even has less feats than I knew.

So at best this mirror repelled Orochimaru's attack and some explosive kunais and we're supposed to believe it's repelling mountain range busting nukes?

I'ma be honest with you Sentinel, it takes basic reading comprehension to tell when it's a hyperbole or not and hyperboles are apart of writing. It doesn't take away from the mechanical discussions of the jutsu being broken down. Just skimming these, Gaara's is a great example.

If Yata mirror changes its state to counter any attack, that's what it does.

Maybe my reading comprehension is shit and this mirror does defend from every kind of attack. My point still stands that the 100% success rate within the verse doesn't guarantee that it's gonna keep the 100% success rate in comparison to other verses. Like, do we even know it blocks non Chakra attacks? I mean, everything is based on Chakra, while verses like One Piece have dozens of abilities which are not linked to DFs and can still be very devastating.

However, like I said, the actual manga treats it like a rumor and this one is 100% spelled like a hyperbole, especially since Zetsu used Yata Mirror and Totsuga Sword to describe Itachi as invincible. When it comes to the databook, yeah, it does give more context to what particular things it can block. Yet again, it barely has feats so we cannot truly say Yata Mirror can do all these things.

You're seeing it in use lol. It provided cover against both attacks, that's what it does. This is what'll happen to other attacks that hit yata Mirror, I'm not sure what you were expecting.

2 times. That's the total number of moments we've seen Yata Mirror blocking some low level attacks compared to god tiers.

A sword that has done nothing but be hyped up by Obito was destroyed.
Totsuka is hyped up by Zetsu, Orochimaru, seals orochimaru & Nagato

These aren't the same thing and again, this comes down to reading comprehension. If you can't throw away the obvious hype lines to look at the context behind these abilities, that's not a me issue.

The sword stated to be used by Hagoromo is just some empty hype which was quickly debunked at the next scene? It's almost like it seems to be like the sage tools. Yata Mirror didn't even demonstrate 1% of what it apparently can do in the databook but we're gonna pretend like it's repelling the combined attack of SM Susannoo Kurama along with all the other shinobis which destroyed a weapon said to create and destroy the world?

Obito has clearly stated what this sword is capable of. There's no reason to choose this kind of wording when there's nothing special about it. It has nothing to do with reading comprehension issues. It's about differentiating between empty-promise statements vs actual feats.

Yes, it's changing form to block the attacks. Look at Yata against the explosive attacks versus against Orochi or even the top panel, you can see it looking differently.

I literally see no difference whatsoever but okay.

If you can outhax it yes, if you bring an attack that is material, astral ,ninjutsu or physical, it will be countered. You need a way around it and brute force clearly ain't it until you go onto a scale where we're looking at DBZ characters.

Kaguya's all killing bones has at least two of these criteria? So I don't get how this move bypasses Yata Mirror.

I also don't get how DBZ levels of AP suddenly makes a difference. As long as they're not dropping planet busting AoE, Yata Mirror should block Tien's Kikoho if we go by the databook's definition.

Presumably it would take on the shape of the truth seeking balls
Unknown because the DBs for all killing ashbones state it can go through dimensions.
I need more context on what his attack is, I never watched the Last.
Yes, unless Kakashi kamuis the entire area around Itachi, it is getting countered because Kamui is classified as an astral jutsu and astral jutsu are listed as something it can handle

1.) Idk, I can't tell how it would fare against TSB.
2.) If it works against Kamui, a space & time ninjutsu, I don't see how it shouldn't work against these bones.
3.) Toneri basically creates a massive laser out of his unlimited TBS and cut the moon with it.

 

[Shiroyru]

The Yata Mirror obviously has some upper limit, it wouldn't make any sense for anyone on the Naruto planet to be able to create a universal level weapon

 

[Eustass97]

Can the Yata Mirror withstand Toneri’s moon-slicing attack?