Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1167 Spoilers Discussion

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If that is case then dont know why are people downplaying him as Roger equal.

I have Ace novels and I remember stated that Shiki was alongside Roger and Whitebeard top dog at sea before yonko era started.
It's mostly yonko faps that believe they MUST be the strongest pirates in the series. Same reason why they used to say Mihawk was YC level before the bounty
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Yeah I'm going to wait for a proper one, I'm not that desperate
 
You got some balls ngl.

Let's see Wengoku, Mythical Zoan(Buddah>>Chinese Dragon fish), ACoC and PK lvl portrayal. During his FA position, dude had Warlords as his underdogs
What is PK level portrayal? Sengoku has no statements nor feats that equates him to those guys.

All he does is stand next to Garp, Bogard has him
beat in that regard. Bogard is Garp’s RHM, Sengoku is his Left wing.
 
Did nothing in a certain scenario where he's not even relevant=/=he's weak. Shiki need not prove anything. We already know how strong he is without him doing anything in this arc. I don't know if Shiki's the Big Mom of the old era, but she's definitely not destroying half the MF after a two-on-one with Garp and Sengoku.
Bigmom was one of the strongest pirates of all time, she wasn't weak, even if she was likely the weakest yonko, but she wasn't at pk level

Shiki is the same, the weakest among the strongest

He destroyed half of the city because he launched navy ships everywhere, garp and sengoku low diffed him... Shiki vs garp and sengoku was a completely suicide

Or, if you prefer, you can consider him as strong as domi reversi xebec because he fought two pk tier marines :dank:
 
What is PK level portrayal? Sengoku has no statements nor feats that equates him to those guys.

All he does is stand next to Garp, Bogard has him
beat in that regard. Bogard is Garp’s RHM, Sengoku is his Left wing.
Sengoku is the only character alongside Garp to get both respect from Roger & Whitebeard. Oda even hyped up a video game character he created by saying the guy he could go toe-to-toe with legends like Roger, Whitebeard, Garp and Sengoku. The FA position is worth 5B. (PK level bounty)

You can't say Big Mom is still one of the strongest character in the series despite getting clowned many times because of "portrayal" while ignoring Sengoku's own portraya l

 
What is PK level portrayal? Sengoku has no statements nor feats that equates him to those guys.

All he does is stand next to Garp, Bogard has him
beat in that regard. Bogard is Garp’s RHM, Sengoku is his Left wing.
What? Lmfao

Are you telling me Sengoku~Bogard(Garp's chicken wings)? Now Low fans has gone to far.

Now let's clarify one thing, Bogard is a bum. Dude is fodder. Don't ever compare him with the Former Fleet Admiral again.

Also, if you have the Pirate King recognizing that you as capable of fighting like as Garp, and this is not PK lvl portrayal.....then i don't know what to tell you lol.

But let's be friends and agree Current Law extreme diffs Fujitora.
 
Ngl yonko genjutsu is something else, if any admiral ever snotted out of fear from YC1+ Luffy I would have deleted my account. Gigabull dancing for the bloodlusted God King all out COC is nothing in comparison.

@RyoQ already established that we (the Admiral fandom) were unfortunately Yanker Genjutsu victims for years, until the mighty Gigabull broke the jutsu with his magnificent left hand diff.
 
tbh the french translation makes it seem like it is their peak as pirate overall (meaning not only strenght but also influence, territories and crew).
Hmm...

“And they reached their prime after a decade… or more.”
"And what those pirates had in common was the struggle to seize control over influential territories."

The line that follows sounds a bit tautological if you assume the "prime" is primarily about their influence / career and whatnot, tbh.
 
Hmm...

“And they reached their prime after a decade… or more.”
"And what those pirates had in common was the struggle to seize control over influential territories."

The line that follows sounds a bit tautological if you assume the "prime" is primarily about their influence / career and whatnot, tbh.
But that's the thing no? We know the yonko system only emerged way after GV. WB stil wasn't one during Oden's flashback so it still woun't be considered his peak as a pirate.
 
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