I said The creator of Sandai Kitetsu talked directly to Zoro. He saw Zoro training with sandai Kitetsu and say “I created that sword” and this guy then proceeds to talk about Black blades… without ever talking about the sword he himself created… That the sword he creates has a super power
Hmm, are you saying Zoro scarred Kaido with Armament haki? How did he do that?
You’re also not really addressing the point of the thread, even if Kaku said what he said, the fact is, we are 800 chapters since Kaku said that and no top tier in the verse has ever done a single thing even remotely similar to this
I agree with this,
Haki is how much of your Willpower can you convert into Energy,
Stronger you are, the higher that percentage gets,
Manifestations imo is not Haki indeed, and it's actually how much can your Willpower influence your Soul,
Brook is proof of this, same goes for Big Mom,
Brook was able to retain Human Functions despite being a Skeleton, all thanks to his Soul,
Not just that, but He also can draw Power from Underworld because his Soul been there,
Big Mom too, by putting Souls in different things, They become able to function like Humans (Such as acquiring five senses),
So the soul is indeed able to modify bodies,
While Brook & BM do it thanks to DFs, Zoro is able to command his Soul to modify his Body through cheer Willpower,
Zoro is indeed born to be Strongest.
Actually Oda did say DJ has something to do with Germa genes.
And if you’re saying that Ashura is CoA, the. It’s extra egregious that somehow no one in the OP verse has anything like it when every living thing in the verse can use CoA
Yeah, it´s an asspull from 20 years ago, and Oda has put no thought into it beyond that, same with G2, and DJ, all were created before Haki was even a thing
G2 was first “blood doping”, Luffy was pumping his blood with his rubber body to increases his adrenaline. This was later retconed into Nika bullshit
DJ was first “Sanji’s heart burning hot”, this was later retconed to have something to do with Judge’s Genetic modifications
so basically Both G2 and DJ have had TWO DIFFERENT explanations in canon. That’s how much Oda cares about explaining them. He literally explained them once, and then changed his mind and explained them again.
Ashura has exactly ZERO explanations outside of Kaku saying “his willpower is creating an illusion”. Then the illusion started damaging Kaku somehow
I agree with this,
Haki is how much of your Willpower can you convert into Energy,
Stronger you are, the higher that percentage gets,
Manifestations imo is not Haki indeed, and it's actually how much can your Willpower influence your Soul,
Brook is proof of this, same goes for Big Mom,
Brook was able to retain Human Functions despite being a Skeleton, all thanks to his Soul,
Not just that, but He also can draw Power from Underworld because his Soul been there,
Big Mom too, by putting Souls in different things, They become able to function like Humans (Such as acquiring five senses),
So the soul is indeed able to modify bodies,
While Brook & BM do it thanks to DFs, Zoro is able to command his Soul to modify his Body through cheer Willpower,
Zoro is indeed born to be Strongest.
G2 was first “blood doping”, Luffy was pumping his blood with his rubber body to increases his adrenaline. This was later retconed into Nika bullshit
DJ was first “Sanji’s heart burning hot”, this was later retconed to have something to do with Judge’s Genetic modifications
so basically Both G2 and DJ have had TWO DIFFERENT explanations in canon. That’s how much Oda cares about explaining them. He literally explained them once, and then changed his mind and explained them again.
Ashura has exactly ZERO explanations outside of Kaku saying “his willpower is creating an illusion”. Then the illusion started damaging Kaku somehow
If the explanation is vague, and comes literal decades later, it´s obviously an asspull that makes no sense. Oda didn´t have Germa shit or Nika shit in mind when he made g2, or DJ, they were just nonsense he thought was cool at the time, that the SHP for some reason didn´t have in previous arcs. He also had nothing in mind when making Asura, and probably still hasn´t figured anything out.
Actually Oda did say DJ has something to do with Germa genes.
And if you’re saying that Ashura is CoA, the. It’s extra egregious that somehow no one in the OP verse has anything like it when every living thing in the verse can use CoA
G2 and DJ were explained
the explanations were both retconed later on tho
G2 was first “blood doping”, Luffy was pumping his blood with his rubber body to increases his adrenaline. This was later retconed into Nika bullshit
DJ was first “Sanji’s heart burning hot”, this was later retconed to have something to do with Judge’s Genetic modifications
so basically Both G2 and DJ have had TWO DIFFERENT explanations in canon. That’s how much Oda cares about explaining them. He literally explained them once, and then changed his mind and explained them again.
Ashura has exactly ZERO explanations outside of Kaku saying “his willpower is creating an illusion”. Then the illusion started damaging Kaku somehow
Im not the one making the claim of it being will. Thats Kaku. He said his willpower is so strong it manifested an illusion. This illusion can interact with the real world. Just like peronas or anybody else.
Will is haki. Quite literally. Mantra existed pre time skip. Of course armament did as well. How did garp hurt luffy even though hes made of rubber? What about the armament foreshadowing with crocodile in alabasta?
You are the one with the inconsistencies. It was never retconned into being Germa genes. Thats made up nonsense.
G2 is theorized to be vulcanization as thats how rubber interacts in the real world. Just like caeser the gas man can produce a plasma flame with his gasses. Sanji produces diable jambe via friction. That is Canon. Pre ts he would spin in circles in order to light his leg on fire. He learned this from wanze with his fire skates and from bon clay
Youre just dumb and speak out your ass. I dont think its your own fault. Youre limited in access to the cognitive tools obtained past a certain iq threshold. God help these Indians 🇮🇳
It's an illusion created from willpower. There aren't actually 3 Zoro's. Since he's using so much willpower, it gives off the feeling that there's three of him. In reality, there is just one Zoro, who is 3x as strong as he normally is.
It's like when Zoro uses his biceps as a muscle pump to gain more blood and he calls it 1-2 gorilla. It's not a real gorilla. But he is getting stronger.
Asura is just the inspiration for the move. And since haki is derived from willpower, that's why it manifests as an illusion that others can actually see. It's like he's giving off an aura.
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It's an illusion created from willpower. There aren't actually 3 Zoro's. Since he's using so much willpower, it gives off the feeling that there's three of him. In reality, there is just one Zoro, who is 3x as strong as he normally is.
It's like when Zoro uses his biceps as a muscle pump to gain more blood and he calls it 1-2 gorilla. It's not a real gorilla. But he is getting stronger.
Asura is just the inspiration for the move. And since haki is derived from willpower, that's why it manifests as an illusion that others can actually see. It's like he's giving off an aura.
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It's an illusion created from willpower. There aren't actually 3 Zoro's. Since he's using so much willpower, it gives off the feeling that there's three of him. In reality, there is just one Zoro, who is 3x as strong as he normally is.
It's like when Zoro uses his biceps as a muscle pump to gain more blood and he calls it 1-2 gorilla. It's not a real gorilla. But he is getting stronger.
Asura is just the inspiration for the move. And since haki is derived from willpower, that's why it manifests as an illusion that others can actually see. It's like he's giving off an aura.
It's like when Zoro uses his biceps as a muscle pump to gain more blood and he calls it 1-2 gorilla. It's not a real gorilla. But he is getting stronger.
It could just be a unique sword technique like Kinemon cutting any type of fire, even those that shouldn’t be affected with haki (Prometheus). It amplifies Zoro’s physicals.
At this point I have no idea what Power of Love is.
However, that too should be commanded by willpower.
Most things obey the orders that willpower gives.
Logias turn into elements through sheer willpower.
Kaido changes forms through willpower. There is no switch to press to change the forms...
Haki is summoned by willpower as well as all DF abilities, most of them at least.
I am 99% sure that Asura is the same thing as any other Devil Fruit.
This is just its first manifestation, it has never occured before, that's why its DF doesnt exist yet.
Not that I’m agreeing with everything else that BillSlipton said but I just wanted to point out that these 2 things don’t necessarily have anything to do with each other
An abnormal resistance to heat doesn’t allow you to burst into flames
And with Queen wondering how Sanji’s able to do that after it was confirmed that he’s studied/copied Germa’s science it’s heavily implied that it has nothing to do with Judge directly
Not that I’m agreeing with everything else that BillSlipton said but I just wanted to point out that these 2 things don’t necessarily have anything to do with each other
An abnormal resistance to heat doesn’t allow you to burst into flames
And with Queen wondering how Sanji’s able to do that after it was confirmed that he’s studied/copied Germa’s science it’s heavily implied that it has nothing to do with Judge directly
Sanji gave the explanation for why he can burst into his flames. “His passion burns hot” or whatever that means
but Oda in this SBS is telling us that Germa genes are involved because apparently Sanji needs to be fire resistant to his own flames for him to use them
even when Sanji is talking about Ifrit Jambe he says “I’m using armament haki and the Exoskeleton to withstand the flames”
This whole “friction” shit this fucking asshole @BillSlipton is talking about has actually never been confirmed in the story. People just assumed that’s what the explanation was because Sanji used to spin around. Then he stopped spinning around hence proving that that’s never been the explanation and again, IT WAS NEVER STATED TO BE FRICTION
You noticed it well. Yes, his eyebrow does change. Going back to the Whole Cake Island Arc, all of Sanji's siblings were born with superhuman abilities and strong skin called an "exoskeleton", due to the Lineage Factor manipulation performed on them. However, only Sanji was born as a normal human due to his mother's resistance. Look at his brothers and sister's eyebrows.
Everyone has "66", like Yonji. Sanji is the exact opposite. So, for him, the raid suit caused the power to science to manifest. Sanji already had an abnormal resistance to flame. That was a strange little event, wasn't it? Let's see where this takes him.
This is the full sbs. Not your fake bullshit. Sanji already had an abnormal resistance to flame before the germa genes awakened. Meaning theyre a seperate power. The power awakening was his exoskeleton.
I think Oda is my fellow Tenshinhan fan (and maybe every Zoro fan should appreciate him as a prototype). This will probably end up just as inexplicable as that character's abilities
Sanji gave the explanation for why he can burst into his flames. “His passion burns hot” or whatever that means
but Oda in this SBS is telling us that Germa genes are involved because apparently Sanji needs to be fire resistant to his own flames for him to use them
even when Sanji is talking about Ifrit Jambe he says “I’m using armament haki and the Exoskeleton to withstand the flames”
This whole “friction” shit this fucking asshole @BillSlipton is talking about has actually never been confirmed in the story. People just assumed that’s what the explanation was because Sanji used to spin around. Then he stopped spinning around hence proving that that’s never been the explanation and again, IT WAS NEVER STATED TO BE FRICTION
Are you dumb? Do I need oda to tell me luffy is using his rubber when he stretches his arm? Not everything needs to be said.
Here is the evidence.
Look at the heat on bon clay shoes with the sizzle effect
Wanze uses friction to light his skates on fire just before sanji does it with diable jambe
How come sanji spins everytime he does diable jambe in the pre time skip?
Why does he burst into flames on thriller bark?
My only point being that its clearly got nothing to do with germa.
In all sbs about diable jambe you see oda repeat that its sanjis passion thats hotter than the fire. So clearly theres a physical aspect and a passion aspect. The physical was the friction. The want to save Robin was the passion. Nothing to do with Germa
NO SBS SAYS THAT DIABLE JAMBE COMES FROM GERMA OR SCIENCE. THIS IS A LIE
Lol, I'm the first person to vote Haki? I think, without trying to define anything that hasn't been addressed by Oda, it most resembles how Haki was used in the pre time skip context where the concept was both obscured and lacking creator development. I also think this is true with the breath of all things.
Are you dumb? Do I need oda to tell me luffy is using his rubber when he stretches his arm? Not everything needs to be said.
Here is the evidence.
Look at the heat on bon clay shoes with the sizzle effect
Wanze uses friction to light his skates on fire just before sanji does it with diable jambe
How come sanji spins everytime he does diable jambe in the pre time skip?
Why does he burst into flames on thriller bark?
My only point being that its clearly got nothing to do with germa.
In all sbs about diable jambe you see oda repeat that its sanjis passion thats hotter than the fire. So clearly theres a physical aspect and a passion aspect. The physical was the friction. The want to save Robin was the passion. Nothing to do with Germa
NO SBS SAYS THAT DIABLE JAMBE COMES FROM GERMA OR SCIENCE. THIS IS A LIE
I think Oda is my fellow Tenshinhan fan (and maybe every Zoro fan should appreciate him as a prototype). This will probably end up just as inexplicable as that character's abilities
I wonder if it will be treated as cheap writing if Zoro beats Mihawk with this inexplicable completely unique power with no clear limits on what it actually does
like will fans even care. I mean does anyone really care about the mechanics of any fight in the series anymore
you know what, I don’t fucking care, this ist the thread for that useless character so fuck off I guess
I wonder if it will be treated as cheap writing if Zoro beats Mihawk with this inexplicable completely unique power with no clear limits on what it actually does
like will fans even care. I mean does anyone really care about the mechanics of any fight in the series anymore
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