Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[park_min young]

 

[moreha9685]

Zoro and Sanji are the wings, so if Loki joins
Zoro&Sanji > Loki > Kaido

If Loki joins he becomes the elytra: the hardening wing-protection.

 

[Dark-Abel]

Interesting details and connections from this chapter so far for me

- Loki is not the Hell Fire Serpent or has the Jormungandr DF
- His fruit is the Dragon(Nidhogg) who appears in the Harley Mural
- Since the Hell Fire Serpent has been mentioned multiple times by giants and even Harald, I think it's safe to say Loki is going up against it(dragon and serpent in the mural against each other)

Loki will destroy the Red Line

 

[Sentinel]

I mean, whether or not it was intentional at the time, it's definitely still a clear rorschach test. You can't in good faith say things like Pica > Tobiroppo and then say Pica < Hancock or Magellan lol
It definitely is stupid to say Pica > Magellan, I admit that now and I've admitted it for a while, but I stand by the fact that my comments in that thread were a great test to see the hypocrisy of Warlord wankers regardless. Their logic tends to be very inconsistent and biased.

I don't even place Pica above all mid tiers. I clearly put Vergo above Pica and this dude didn't destroy mountains. I think characters who can fly, are fast or can quickly destroy city blocks or smaller towns, have high chances to beat Pica. So it's rather a match-up thing. Look at how Oven boiled an entire sea in few seconds. This man can theoretically melt Pica inside his golem. Thus, Pica is an extremely match-up related enemy. Not every mid tier has the tools to deal with him.

Well, you say this was just a test and I clearly doubt this one so let's agree to disagree? I also don't want to discuss about freaking Magellan or Pica when this is a Woki chapter lmao.

 

[ZenZu]

Lucci is a top tier?

Lucci is still young and can grow even stronger, he is a prodigy, one of the best all around combatants in the entire verse who has zero weaknesses, like legit not a single weakness.

His only fault is he wasn't a born conqueror, and got a basic zoan df. He just maximized what he was given in an extremely short period.

Pfp Lucci is more impressive than majority of top tiers, who are just genetic merchants. But this is what holds him back from being a top tier. I don't think he will ever reach top tier status even though his growth rate is insane at such a young age, he's kind of maxing out his options (already awakened, mastered rokushiki, the only thing he can add is internal penetration if he doesn't have it (rokuogan already does this anyway though) and FS).

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Loki will destroy the Red Line

Zoro will cut the red line

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I mean, whether or not it was intentional at the time, it's definitely still a clear rorschach test. You can't in good faith say things like Pica > Tobiroppo and then say Pica < Hancock or Magellan lol
It definitely is stupid to say Pica > Magellan, I admit that now and I've admitted it for a while, but I stand by the fact that my comments in that thread were a great test to see the hypocrisy of Warlord wankers regardless. Their logic tends to be very inconsistent and biased.

Also @Sentinel Jinbe, Croc and Ivankov running from him isn't really them fearing his power lol. They just didn't want to fight him when they had to go and save Ace. It's similar to Yamato saying they don't have time to take down a Number:

 

[TheD.]

Crazy cause Loki still need to awaken his fruit

he’s only 21 he won’t be in his prime until 80-100 human years

hasn’t mastered his conquers yet

unexplained eyes

 

[Soyz]

Woki can legit solo the strawhat crew he ain't joining 🤣

 

[Paperchampion23]

Interesting details and connections from this chapter so far for me

- Loki is not the Hell Fire Serpent or has the Jormungandr DF
- His fruit is the Dragon(Nidhogg) who appears in the Harley Mural
- Since the Hell Fire Serpent has been mentioned multiple times by giants and even Harald, I think it's safe to say Loki is going up against it(dragon and serpent in the mural against each other)

Imo the fruit he ate could theoretically be both. Remember that these mythical fruits are just that: mythical, pulled from antiquity based on x mythology.

So while the "Earth God" with its "Serpent if Hellflame" do sound separate, its possible the fruit created was from one mythological event I.e. an Ancient Giant with its Dragon.

Also Nidhoggr is often characterized more as a serpent than a dragon specifically, but its interchangeable

 

[moreha9685]

Also @Sentinel Jinbe, Croc and Ivankov running from him isn't really them fearing his power lol. They just didn't want to fight him when they had to go and save Ace. It's similar to Yamato saying they don't have time to take down a Number:

I have never seen this double spread in my life. Wano feels like a fugue state.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Lucci is a top tier?

He clashed with Gear 5th and stalled Zoro for 6 months.

Absolutely

 

[Jailer]

Oda should use those fking boxes to name abilities, now people will debate if rhe hammer is an actual squrriel or the mythical version of it for another year until he confirms it in some stupid source outside the manga. Or at least draw them differently to make distinction.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I don't even place Pica above all mid tiers. I clearly put Vergo above Pica and this dude didn't destroy mountains. I think characters who can fly, are fast or can quickly destroy city blocks or smaller towns, have high chances to beat Pica. So it's rather a match-up thing. Look at how Oven boiled an entire sea in few seconds. This man can theoretically melt Pica inside his golem. Thus, Pica is an extremely match-up related enemy. Not every mid tier has the tools to deal with him.

Well, you say this was just a test and I clearly doubt this one so let's agree to disagree? I also don't want to discuss about freaking Magellan or Pica when this is a Woki chapter lmao.

Like I said it's more of just a general belief for most Warlord wankers, it may not apply to you specifically but it definitely does for people like Veku or Plex
I'm glad you're at least smart enough to know that it's dumb to put Vergo, Oven, Hancock, or who ever else below him despite them clearly getting better portrayal because "muh DC" and that you aren't inconsistent with it

 

[Soyz]

Remember Woki telling goofy he will wipe out any pirate crew ? bro wasn't joking

 

[Nadel]

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[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I have never seen this double spread in my life. Wano feels like a fugue state.

I'm pretty sure I only remembered it because last night I was arguing with @Shiroyru about Guernica's power level and had to constantly flip through chapters on my site carefully examining each page to see which chapter had a panel of Guernica fighting in it

 

[Sentinel]

Also @Sentinel Jinbe, Croc and Ivankov running from him isn't really them fearing his power lol. They just didn't want to fight him when they had to go and save Ace. It's similar to Yamato saying they don't have time to take down a Number:

Looking at what Magellan did to Ivankov - someone who always picked fights with Kuma - it isn't farfetched to think what he'd do with them if they decided to fight him head-on... Come on, Magellan was clearly portrayed as an unstoppable force back then. They didn't even have an answer against his Venom Demon (something which is definitely an awakened ability imo)

 

[Paperchampion23]

Oda fucking reasoning for not showing awakened Kaido lol, he realized it would look too similar to Loki's

 

[moreha9685]

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