Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[park_min young]

fishmen didnt get great representation if this is what we get with giants and wano country

Fisher Tiger is Kaido level

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Ray has not shown anything to be put above gaben

Both have acoc. Ray has ID, gaben has FS

They are the equal wings of equal man

Oh, stop it.
Ray = Zoro
Gaban = Sanji

Now go back and read the manga from start to finish and ask yourself how often Luffy praises Zoros strength, leaves things in Zoros hands and so on compared to Sanji. Look at how Luffy almost scoffs at Sanjis PL (for example pre Roof top regarding how slow/weak Sanji) and compare that to how he praised Zoro vs Kaido & Big Mom.

Ask yourself how the rest of the characters, both SHP and outsiders, view Zoro vs Sanji.

The Wings bla bla makes NO SENSE with regards to their respective feats and portrayal arc after arc. It doesn't make Gaban or Sanji weak but they both would have died like 8 arcs ago if they faced the guys and hurdles Zoro (and likely Ray) faced. They are clear and distant #3 (Sanji actually likely is currently #4 until he proves he has surpassed Jinbei and Oden was surely above Gaban when he was on the ship).

 

[SDfear]

Mihawk is probably same lvl still as Shanks in this Flashback
Mid

 

[Doggo]

crazy thing is loki is doing all this as a fairly young giant

He's been said to be strong since his birth.
Remember that he climbed from the underworld as a literal newborn baby.
xD

Also, people are completely ignoring that Loki got 2 PUs in order to achieve this. Ragnir AND the legendary DF (that me and @Paperchampion23 have been theorizing it's the "Serpent of Hellflame" from the 1st world that engulfed the world in death and darkness. So pretty fucking big deal).

 

[warsame zaylai]

He went multiple solo battles.


That's what his record shows.



He didn't have Future sight against Oden for example

Wasn't those records before he took over wano ?

He likely had FS cuz oden vs kaido wasnt shown the full battle
also kaido doesnt use fs that much
didnt even use it against gear 5

 

[OPKnK]

He did.
But using ACoC is just the minimum requirement.
You still gotta damage the Gorosei enough. ACoC is not a "free kill" against the immortality shenanigan.
And, different from most HKs, the Gorosei actually use CoC as well, at least Warcury. Probably Mars and Venus as well.

Yeah i think gaban made it clear this chapter vs HK without CoC just keep on using AcoC until they can't fight any more.
People like Rocks and Harald who also got CoC just plain AcoC not going to work since they can protect there self .
Which i guess is big reason why all 5 elder have CoC.
You going to need to over power there CoC .

 

[L57]

Zoro enlarged Kaido's two-meter wound by half an inch, while Kaido underestimated all those people and played with them. While Shanks himself admitted that he was conscious and received this wound.

so was kaido and if zoro hit shanks with that the scar would be as big as his body lmfao

 

[Rumble]

GABANBROS DON'T READ THE CHAPTER THIS WEEK

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Sword swallowers really think everyone else is deluded as they are, just about different characters.

Bro, who the fuck thought Gaban was stronger than Imu-posses Harald?

I've not seen it from any Shanks fans either.

 

[Levi]

Fisher Tiger is Kaido level

Do you have the same AI responses for every comment

 

[mmd]

Even if he did grew stronger he didnt grow much
you only grow insane through battles and kaido didnt fight anyone outside oden

All the Admirals and Mohawk haven't fought a strong person in years, so their strength hasn't changed since 20 years ago?
It's clear that all of them and Kaido have become stronger.

 

[Bullet]

Mohawk bros trying to include him in beyond PK lvl discussions. @Shiroyru @MonochromeYoru @soupongo

Couldn't be put more accurately lmao

 

[Welkin]

The Gorosei were all said to be powerful haki users, with almost all of them showing CoC as well.

Simply having ACoC shouldn’t be a silver bullet to beating them, like it was for Sommers.

I was gonna say this might be the only exception

Gaban noted that none of the regen users they fought possessed conqueror’s haki (or at least they couldn’t use it at the time)

Who knows how conqueror’s haki effects regeneration if you possess it

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Gorosei require a higher tier of conqueror’s and that’s how Oda “restricts” who he allows to fight them in the Final War

 

[vikas]

It's hilarious to think Ragnir would stomp any yonko YC1 lmfao

Harald is saying even he couldn't fight it without imu juice

 

[L57]

Mihawk CG bounty my friendo

not his solo bounty

clearly solo since he s not even a captain
u could remove 600m from cross and he s still 3b

 

[Sentinel]

?
The statement is meaningless, it just shows how old WB is.

I mean do you really believe the version of Shanks who has at most a 1B bounty and got scarred by Base Teach (who even after eating the Yami got pushed to high diff by a YC2 level character like Ace) is close to his prime?

Shanks learned Kamurasi when he was 15 yo, so what's wrong about Shanks being close to his prime? This was 2 armed Shanks who already had several duels with Mihawk. 2 years later he lost his arm and Mihawk no longer accepted duels with Shanks.

Wait... Isn't this huge Mihawk downgrade as well? Because if 2 armed Shanks > has been Shanks, it'd mean Mihawk wouldn't be able to bypass Harald's barrier either. But if current Shanks >>> flashback Shanks, it means he's got several times stronger despite 1 arm.

Damn, Harald and Loki singlehandely destroyed so many agendas. It's crazy how 2 giants from a single arc caused so much powerscaling chaos.

 

[kekaro]

I was gonna say this might be the only exception

Gaban noted that none of the regen users they fought possessed conqueror’s haki (or at least they couldn’t use it at the time)

Who knows how conqueror’s haki effects regeneration if you possess it

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Gorosei require a higher tier of conqueror’s and that’s how Oda “restricts” who he allows to fight them in the Final War

People also ignore that the teleportation ability is clearly haki

 

[TheD.]

crazy thing is loki is doing all this as a fairly young giant

Weren’t you the same guy saying “LoKi DowNscAlE” just 20 minutes ago

#stay on that side

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Mohawk bros trying to include him in beyond PK lvl discussions. @Shiroyru @MonochromeYoru @soupongo

"pk level" heading into 2026 after seeing the fraudulent numbers dodger put up in prime time
lets be serious

 

[warsame zaylai]

All the Admirals and Mohawk haven't fought a strong person in years, so their strength hasn't changed since 20 years ago?
It's clear that all of them and Kaido have become stronger.

For the admirals and mihawk we dont know

but kaido deadass stayed in wano the whole time
no one came for him nor did he went after others

 

[Rumble]

Reward of strengh (no crew): Loki 2.6 Billions, Mihawk 3.6 Billions
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Mihawk is obviously stronger but this actually makes him look worse if anything.

Loki barely did anything in the world

Mihawk's been a menace of the seas for decades.