One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room #Bears lost, what we doing now....
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@soupongo Neji was a bit of a statements merchant tbh. Lee objectively had the better feats than him. The only way Neji beats 5th Gate Lee is if he can outlast him, which doesn’t seem likely since one punch from Naruto laid Neji out.
And then there’s Drunken Fist Lee pushing Kimimaro into using the first stage of the Curse Mark, when Base Kimimaro scales above CM2 Kidomaru. Also, Neji honestly got really lucky against Kidomaru. If Kidomaru had just stayed in CM1 and kept hitting him with kunai from Neji’s blind spot, Neji would’ve lost since the only reason Neji won was because CM2 Kidomaru’s arrows have threads connecting them to Kidomaru’s mouth, which Neji could take advantage of to send his Gentle Fist directly to Kidomaru
And then there’s Drunken Fist Lee pushing Kimimaro into using the first stage of the Curse Mark, when Base Kimimaro scales above CM2 Kidomaru. Also, Neji honestly got really lucky against Kidomaru. If Kidomaru had just stayed in CM1 and kept hitting him with kunai from Neji’s blind spot, Neji would’ve lost since the only reason Neji won was because CM2 Kidomaru’s arrows have threads connecting them to Kidomaru’s mouth, which Neji could take advantage of to send his Gentle Fist directly to Kidomaru
Appeasement never really works out in the long run irl. The Raikage knows that he can bully the Hokage into making unfair concessions (that Jonin was in the middle of kidnapping Hinata while on a diplomatic mission, so obviously Hiashi was 100% justified in killing him). The Cloud lost one weak ass Jonin that got one tapped by Hiashi, while the Leaf lost Hiashi’s equal in exchange.
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Woki could have been the greatest ragebait character. Oda, how could you rob us of this opportunity…
Woki could have been the greatest ragebait character. Oda, how could you rob us of this opportunity…
Depends, if Naruto were a manga that focused more on serious geopolitics stuff, you would maybe have a point, but we know in universe, the cloud really didn't try anything similar again, nor did they end up in conflict with the leaf again, so generally the appeasement worked, and prevented a global war, which would have killed probably thousands or more(the scale of the Narutoverse is kind of odd). I don't think you'd have to be a crazy utilitarian to see why, while unfortunate, it was probably the better move.
kind of true, you also have Neji getting statements from tenten that his defense is better than Gaara. That glazing and the fact that he had the a bs loss to the MC is why he's the OG King Kuri.
Isn't Kimmimaro going into CM1 only because Lee's drunken fist style was too unpredictable? It's not like Lee ever significantly damaged him, and he was about to win with the CM1 pretty comfortably until Gaara showed up. You probably have a point about Neji getting lucky against Kidomaru, but the K11 generally scaled under the sound 4 at this point, and the fact that he was able to take the advantage with his arrows just speaks to his skill/
kind of true, you also have Neji getting statements from tenten that his defense is better than Gaara. That glazing and the fact that he had the a bs loss to the MC is why he's the OG King Kuri.
Isn't Kimmimaro going into CM1 only because Lee's drunken fist style was too unpredictable? It's not like Lee ever significantly damaged him, and he was about to win with the CM1 pretty comfortably until Gaara showed up. You probably have a point about Neji getting lucky against Kidomaru, but the K11 generally scaled under the sound 4 at this point, and the fact that he was able to take the advantage with his arrows just speaks to his skill/
I'd be the happiest person in the world if Oda pulls some bullshit to make Shanks stronger. I don't find fun in arguing Mihawk is stronger at all, it pains me because I fucking hate Mihawk and have spent far too much time arguing Shanks > Mihawk. But this flashback killed any chances of Shanks > Mihawk sadly. He's gonna be wanked and might end up with better feats but at the same time Oda will not sacrifice Zoro's dream for his golden boy. At the end of the day, it's like you said, Oda will need to "pull some bullshit" to make Shanks stronger... it's not something that's narratively correct or likely. I don't care for writing anymore so even if it's trash writing I'll celebrate it. I just don't see it happening
Bro Oda had Ipponmatsu only recognize Zoro has a “real swordsman” when he pulled that Kitetsu stunt. Also, guys like Xebec and Harald turned out to not really be swordsman since they were using non-sword moves mid fight (Harald was literally fighting with mainly an axe this last chapter, after he casually tossed aside his sword)
Who on earth is Ipponmatsu 😭😭😭
Xebec was renowned for his swordsmanship which was his main weapon. Shanks has fought enough this flashback yet shown no signs of anything else. Brannew also compares Mihawk's swordsmanship to Shanks's meaning Shanks's swordsmanship is great enough to be considered as a mark of comparison for the WSS.
Even if Shanks shows something else, I won't consider it much unless it's one of his strongest moves. Like using some fodder chops in a fight doesn't mean much if most of his main arsenal is swordmanship. Irl Samurai train in hand to hand combat too. Unless Shanks shows some wifi haki fighting style where he replicates wifi haki but with actual attacks, dude is a swordsman.
Also, forget powerscaling for a bit. What do you think this does for Shanks's character? The whole point is he threw away his potential for the future. Won't it be bad writing if he gapped his rival despite the sacrifice? It cheapens the sacrifice a lot.
Xebec was renowned for his swordsmanship which was his main weapon. Shanks has fought enough this flashback yet shown no signs of anything else. Brannew also compares Mihawk's swordsmanship to Shanks's meaning Shanks's swordsmanship is great enough to be considered as a mark of comparison for the WSS.
Even if Shanks shows something else, I won't consider it much unless it's one of his strongest moves. Like using some fodder chops in a fight doesn't mean much if most of his main arsenal is swordmanship. Irl Samurai train in hand to hand combat too. Unless Shanks shows some wifi haki fighting style where he replicates wifi haki but with actual attacks, dude is a swordsman.
Also, forget powerscaling for a bit. What do you think this does for Shanks's character? The whole point is he threw away his potential for the future. Won't it be bad writing if he gapped his rival despite the sacrifice? It cheapens the sacrifice a lot.
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