Questions & Mysteries Did the hammer eat the fruit or did the squirel eat the fruit?

#41
Huh? You think the hammer is a zoan? What animal is a hammer?

who is producing the lightning powers? The hammer or the squirrel?
I already corrected myself in this thread, I meant that I think it’s a paramecia like a Jacket fruit or Bomb fruit. I think that the squirrel ate the Mjolnir fruit, the df gave him lightning powers and nigh-indestructibility.
 
#42
I already corrected myself in this thread, I meant that I think it’s a paramecia like a Jacket fruit or Bomb fruit. I think that the squirrel ate the Mjolnir fruit, the df gave him lightning powers and nigh-indestructibility.
So there are mythical weapons paramecias?

is there a mythical Death Star fruit?

Is there a mythical Excalibur fruit?
 
#45
Yup, and it’s a reasonable assumption. The squirrel is clearly based on Ratatoskr, whether you think it has a Zoan fruit or is Ratatoskr itself.
A cute portmanteau is not a basis for Ragnir being a mythological creature of Norse mythology independent of Devil Fruits or other mechanics.

The owl is a counterexample that shows you shouldn’t rule out the possibility of an Elbaf squirrel, especially one based on a Norse god, being able to live for centuries.
I've not ruled out anything, we just have very different understandings of what makes an assumption reasonable.

Reasonable assumptions should be rooted in reasonable interpretations of context.

Having shreds of it does not make a reasonable foundation of assuming anything. You can't contextualise without context to examine.

The giants even speculated that the owl ate a size-alteration fruit, which has nothing to do with life expectancy. That owl is simply mystical and has natural longevity to begin with.
I have many questions about the owl. You seem to think you already have the answers.

That underlines the difference between what is reasoned and what it isn't.

You have wishful thinking and preference on your part. I don't care what it is.

Elbaph being home to actual mythological creatures isn't an issue for me. We've seen mythological beings outside of the context of Devil Fruits, we just had more to go with it.
 
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#48
A cute portmanteau is not a basis for Ragnir being a mythological creature of Norse mythology independent of Devil Fruits or other mechanics.



I've not ruled out anything, we just have very different understandings of what make an assumption reasonable.

Reasonable assumptions should be rooted in reasonable interpretations of context.

Having shreds of it does not make a reasonable foundation of assuming anything. You can't contextualise with context to examine.



I have many questions about the owl. You seem to think you already have the answers.

That underlines the difference between what is reasoned and what it isn't.

You have wishful thinking and preference on your part. I don't care what it is.

Elbaph being home to actual mythological creatures isn't an issue for me. We've seen mythological beings outside of the context of Devil Fruits, we just had more to go with it.
This word salad doesn’t defend anything. Why are we lying right now? You literally ruled out the possibility of a squirrel eating a fruit because of a preconceived notion about Elbaf animals, even though we have a direct example that completely contradicts that.
 
#50
Hammer eating squirrel fruit obviously. When chained in sea stone chains , we see the hammer and not the squirrel.
That’s actually a good point, did we see it wrapped in chains? I forgot tbh
I think this was obvious. How can hammer hammer DF even make sense?
It makes perfect sense. We already have multiple Paramecia that turn their users into living weapons/objects, like the Jacket Fruit, the Bomb Fruit, Mr. 1’s fruit, and Baby 5’s fruit, just to name a few.
 
#51
That’s actually a good point, did we see it wrapped in chains? I forgot tbh

It makes perfect sense. We already have multiple Paramecia that turn their users into living weapons/objects, like the Jacket Fruit, the Bomb Fruit, Mr. 1’s fruit, and Baby 5’s fruit, just to name a few.
Yes. Alongside loki it was also chained up.

But only zoans have the ability to be infused with objects iirc.
 
#52
This word salad doesn’t defend anything. Why are we lying right now? You literally ruled out the possibility of a squirrel eating a fruit because of a preconceived notion about Elbaf animals, even though we have a direct example that completely contradicts that.
The issue for me with you being a grown man with the literacy of a child is that you are believably stupid. I can't tell if you genuinely believe I ruled out the possibility or not. You're a convincing retard. Congrats, I guess. :suresure:
 
#53
The issue for me with you being a grown man with the literacy of a child is that you are believably stupid. I can't tell if you genuinely believe I ruled out the possibility or not. You're a convincing retard. Congrats, I guess. :suresure:
Grown man crying because he can’t defend an argument even if his life depended on it and proceeds with insults. Your tears are delicious.
 
#55
When a person is injured or knocked unconscious by someone else, they revert to their original (human) form, like what happened to the Queen against Big Mom.

When the hammer is injured, it transforms into a squirrel, so it's possible that it's a squirrel that ate the fruit from the hammer (I think it's a 0.000001% chance).

But since Ragnir is called a weapon, it makes sense that it's a hammer that ate the fruit, and when it was chained, it was in the form of a hammer.

What does this even matter anyway?:whitepress:
 
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