General & Others Were Gaban and Shanks truly not strong enough to defeat Harald

[Sentry22]

Roger had his toughest and most relevant fight in GV. That was prime Roger. Haki blooms in tough battles.

Roger then becomes sick and weaker. Roger not being prime in GV is simply a cope. Woki low diffs dodger.

The narrator stated this wasn’t Rogers era yet. He was like current Luffy. He was strong but simply hadn’t reached his full potential. He hadn’t even become PK.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The narrator stated this wasn’t Rogers era yet. He was like current Luffy. He was strong but simply hadn’t reached his full potential yet. He hadn’t even become PK yet.

He died immediately after he became PK. This era of Roger was already a legend among men.

 

[MUUGEN]

The narrator stated this wasn’t Rogers era yet. He was like current Luffy. He was strong but simply hadn’t reached his full potential. He hadn’t even become PK.

narrator also claims that was rocks pirates era and it came to and end at GV

 

[MonsterKaido]

The narrator stated this wasn’t Rogers era yet. He was like current Luffy. He was strong but simply hadn’t reached his full potential. He hadn’t even become PK.

Becoming PK = Finding laughtale and one piece. Its not a power related thing. Roger had toughest fight against rocks. Rocks is also stated to roger's most strongest opponent ever in road to laughtale.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Aubrey if gaban and shanks used critical mass they would have broken Harald’s shield and done enough damage

but as shown on panel, Harald’s CoC was too much for them

 

[Soyz]

Roger and garp didnt do anything to rocks as well until they used their strongest attacks together, all we saw from gaban & shanks was no name advcoc attack

 

[Shanal]

Retirement because his crew disbanded, not retirement because he became old and weaker.

Roger only reached his prime years after God Valley which is stated in the manga. Gaban is in his prime because he's at a relative age to Kaido and Big Mom who are also in their primes.

Roger is >> Rayleigh/Gaban, but that's just a basic fact, nothing to do with agenda.

Retired nevertheless thus not an active combatant for decades thus utterly retarded to call him in prime. A take no one with half a braincell would take without agenda driving

 

[MonochromeYoru]

If we saw then use all their haki like garp and dodger did, we would have had a conclusive answer for that

But it was Loki's time to shine. So they got sidelined

 

[SkySanji]

Retired nevertheless thus not an active combatant for decades thus utterly retarded to call him in prime. A take no one with half a braincell would take without agenda driving

Still in his physical prime and zero indication that he doesn't train or spar, he is retired because his crew no longer exists, not because he is no longer fit to be a pirate. All your post amounts to is insults, appealing to motive and appealing to popularity, you haven't actually made any attempt at forming a coherent argument whatsoever.

 

[Killerj]

Rat king dont want to kill herald, thats your answer

 

[Electricmastro]

I'm baffled you guys all doubt Gaban and Shanks this much even though Gaban was a top Roger Pirate and Shanks was a top Knight of God. You're not giving them enough respect.

 

[Oliver]

It's not like they went all out in an extended battle.

And why the fuck are people saying Loki beat Harald? That's like saying those nameless marines beat Roger. He was quite literally fighting himself and holding himself down to ensure Loki won.

 

[MonsterKaido]

It's not like they went all out in an extended battle.

And why the fuck are people saying Loki beat Harald? That's like saying those nameless marines beat Roger. He was quite literally fighting himself and holding himself down to ensure Loki won.

Loki beat harald to that extent that the connection between imu and harald was cut. So he did beat harald lol.

 

[qwer8888]

they will win if they get into a situation like Loki, where they destroy the mark on his arm, after which Harald comes to his senses and kills himself about them without resisting

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I'm baffled you guys all doubt Gaban and Shanks this much even though Gaban was a top Roger Pirate and Shanks was a top Knight of God. You're not giving them enough respect.

Thinking out of prime Gaban and 24 year old Shanks = Prime Roger and Garp is insane

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

shanks didnt even beat loki later. its becoming obvious loki just lied and told them to tie him up in the underworld out of guilt. he wanted to be blamed for it so harald could die a good king

 

[Marimo_420]

Garp and Roger were not in their primes.

Loki beat a bum who wanst even fighting back.

At the very least Prime Gabun and 20 year old shanks <<< not prime Roger and Garp

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Of course Shanks was. He is just a softie who wanted to save Harald.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Garp and Roger were not in their primes.

Yeah they were. This was the version of Roger who was already able to conquer the grand line and made it to Lodestar. The only difference between this Roger and the pirate king is the addition of Oden and him being in severe pain from illness