General & Others Loki and Ragnir have not awaken yet

[D. Plant]

If you think the hype of Loki and Ragnir is already at it's peak when Loki kills Harald, then you are mistaken.

They haven't awakened their DF yet

Loki couldn't explain his own power.

Ragnir didn't stop Cerberus from stabbing Loki.

Just wait til Loki and Ragnir taps into their true power, they will be unstoppable.

 

[Steven]

Still below Yonkous as per canon as he lost to Shanks

 

[nik87]

Very much possible that neither are Awakened.

 

[D. Plant]

Still below Yonkous as per canon as he lost to Shanks

Loki might be stronger than Shanks because a top tier haki user pairing with a awakened Legendary DF is a deadly combo.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Bruh even without awakenings full power loki is far above PK level. If loki awakens his DF then god forbid even joyboy may not be above him.

Awakened loki >> DF + Ragnir loki >> Base loki > Ragnir > Base Harald = Xebec = Prime Roger/WB/Garp >= Kaido >= Current luffy

 

[TheD.]

Still below Yonkous as per canon as he lost to Shanks

Is Luffy forever capped under Katakuri after losing to him just months in the current story? Lmao nor do we know how their encounter went down they seem to be in good terms for it to be actual fight I think shanks game him his vivre card.But yeah capping loki under shanks 6 years after their encounter is weird because we know how strong people can grow in short times frames in one peice.

 

[Steven]

Is Luffy forever capped under Katakuri after losing to him just months in the current story? Lmao nor do we know how their encounter went down they seem to be in good terms for it to be actual fight I think shanks game him his vivre card.But yeah capping loki under shanks 6 years after their encounter is weird because we know how strong people can grow in short times frames in one peice.

After Shanks oneshotted Kidd,im not betting against Shanks anymore

Plus that we STILL has not seen what happened between Kaido and Shanks.Im 100% sure Oda will use that moment to further push Shanks

I would agree with you if Loki got defeated by Kaido,BM or WB.But not Shanks.Thats the same character who is important as the One Piece itself

 

[TheD.]

After Shanks oneshotted Kidd,im not betting against Shanks anymore

Plus that we STILL has not seen what happened between Kaido and Shanks.Im 100% sure Oda will use that moment to further push Shanks

I would agree with you if Loki got defeated by Kaido,BM or WB.But not Shanks.Thats the same character who is important as the One Piece itself

True,I don’t see shanks outright one shotting loki though oda clearly likes loki enough for him not to look that bad.Id rather that shanks turned off Lokis observation haki and that has something to do with their fight.He would prob make it in a way that loki and shanks dont look too bad

 

[Steven]

True,I don’t see shanks outright one shotting loki though oda clearly likes loki enough for him not to look that bad.Id rather that shanks turned off Lokis observation haki and that has something to do with their fight.He would prob make it in a way that loki and shanks dont look too bad

Since Elbaf is the current Arc,Loki is save from looking like fodder if we get the fight yeah

And like i said before,its save to assume Shanks is a good times stronger as the other Yonkous

 

[JackThaConflagration]

Still below Yonkous as per canon as he lost to Shanks

We don't know how he lost.

By feats, Loki >> shanks. Shanks got beaten like a cheap hoe by harald. While Loki killed immortal harald.

 

[TheD.]

Since Elbaf is the current Arc,Loki is save from looking like fodder if we get the fight yeah

And like i said before,its save to assume Shanks is a good times stronger as the other Yonkous

It’s 2026 and people still don’t think shanks is pirate king level yet? He’s far above any of the yonko

 

[MonsterKaido]

It’s 2026 and people still don’t think shanks is pirate king level yet? He’s far above any of the yonko

Old WB (WSM) > Shanks is canon though. I don't think he is above Kaido also.

 

[Steven]

Old WB (WSM) > Shanks is canon though

No its not

Shanks just didnt make his move until Wano Arc ended

Shanks Haki got compared with JB.WB will never get something like that

 

[TheD.]

Old WB (WSM) > Shanks is canon though. I don't think he is above Kaido also.

I don’t got shanks losing to old beard blood lusted

 

[MonsterKaido]

No its not

Shanks just didnt make his move until Wano Arc ended

Shanks Haki got compared with JB.WB will never get something like that

Bruh shanks' haki was matched by old WB. If shanks had stronger haki he would have overpowered WB.

Saying otherwise is denying what is stated in manga.

 

[TheD.]

Bruh shanks' haki was matched by old WB. If shanks had stronger haki he would have overpowered WB.

Saying otherwise is denying what is stated in manga.

Clash peice is kinda hard to scale characters and I blame Oda on that,ulti should not be clashing with luffy at all in wano.But I don’t see why shanks would try to over power wb in their clash if he really tried then wbs ship would’ve been destroyed like look at prime wb and garps clash that’s how a clash should be portrayed not ulti and luffy lol or the worst of all vista and mihawk…

 

[MonsterKaido]

Clash peice is kinda hard to scale characters and I blame Oda on that,ulti should not be clashing with luffy at all in wano.But I don’t see why shanks would try to over power wb in their clash if he really tried then wbs ship would’ve been destroyed like look at prime wb and garps clash that’s how a clash should be portrayed not ulti and luffy lol or the worst of all vista and mihawk…

Ulti only clashed with base luffy pre acoc that too in head butt. Shanks and WB were using acoc with their weapons. Very different things.

 

[Steven]

Bruh shanks' haki was matched by old WB. If shanks had stronger haki he would have overpowered WB.

Saying otherwise is denying what is stated in manga.

That was like 20 years ago.With neither going all out

Even more important,ACoC didnt exist at this point

 

[TheD.]

Ulti only clashed with base luffy pre acoc that too in head butt. Shanks and WB were using acoc with their weapons. Very different things.

They clearly weren’t going all out

 

[Steven]

They clearly weren’t going all out

Shanks still has not using his best stuff.Kamusari is for Shanks most likely an basic attack like normal Thunder Bagua for Kaido

His high-end attacks must be insane