Powers & Abilities The power to nullify regeneration and lunarian flames

[Terra Arseid7]

Well, with the information that these last chapters have given us in Elbaph, it seems that all of us who said that ADVcoc was necessary to harm the Lunarian with flames were right. That a certain level or mode of use of the coc is needed to screw up the regeneration makes it even clearer to us that Zoro could harm King. And this panel gains even more importance.

What's more, I think that if Oda isn't lazy and terrible for once with the powers in his story, Zoro or someone will mention the "invincibility" of the lunarians and they will connect the points.

 

[ヴィハーン]

What Roger and Garp did, " Haki mass ".
Zoro King of Hell is exact Replication of it.

But the fact Zoro was using Conqueror unconsciously, He is still thinking Their powers are invincible. In egghead He never used that much of Haki again.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Just normal CoC coating is enough.

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

It's so funny seeing people still pretending they understand wtf CoA, AdvCoA, CoC, AdvCoC, CoC Coating, etc.. even mean at this point 😭

 

[Bad English]

It's so funny seeing people still pretending they understand wtf CoA, AdvCoA, CoC, AdvCoC, CoC Coating, etc.. even mean at this point 😭

Basically this - "Just hit harder bro"

 

[Welkin]

I don’t see how ACoC specifically would counter it since it isn’t a DF ability

It’s more than likely just super high AP. The Lunarians (almost) went extinct somehow and it probably has something to do with an Ancient Weapon

 

[ShadowStyle369]

I don’t see how ACoC specifically would counter it since it isn’t a DF ability

It’s more than likely just super high AP. The Lunarians (almost) went extinct somehow and it probably has something to do with an Ancient Weapon

Because haki transcends all (including lunarian defense )

 

[Kerkovian]

Zolo isn't the main character you clown. He bout to get no diffed and be saved from dying by God.
Going death diff vs 1 hp Lucci to "finding out weakness of immortality". Zolobois are the funniest clowns ever.

 

[GodofDarkness]

Zolo isn't the main character you clown. He bout to get no diffed and be saved from dying by God.
Going death diff vs 1 hp Lucci to "finding out weakness of immortality". Zolobois are the funniest clowns ever.

Only clown here is you with that 1 hp Lucci.

 

[Ven437]

It's so funny seeing people still pretending they understand wtf CoA, AdvCoA, CoC, AdvCoC, CoC Coating, etc.. even mean at this point 😭

CoC is overglorified CoA

CoA break thru logia and cancel DF abilities

CoC break thru regen and cancel DF abilities

When will yall realize oda simply been recycling same shit for last 10 years just adding more scribble marks?

 

[nik87]

I was advocating against this because it made no sense to me back then, makes even less sense now when Zoro apparently didnt know he could use aCoC but it does seem to be going in the direction of aCoC being the antidote even to racial powers aside from DF negation.

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

just adding more scribble marks?

Do you know how many threads/posts I've seen here and on OJ over the last 8 years I've been back to the online fandom breaking down haki trails and lightening?

 

[ConquistadoR]

I was advocating against this because it made no sense to me back then, makes even less sense now when Zoro apparently didnt know he could use aCoC but it does seem to be going in the direction of aCoC being the antidote even to racial powers aside from DF negation.

No.

 

[nik87]

No.

Whaddaya mean, Conq-san?

 

[ShadowStyle369]

I was advocating against this because it made no sense to me back then, makes even less sense now when Zoro apparently didnt know he could use aCoC but it does seem to be going in the direction of aCoC being the antidote even to racial powers aside from DF negation.

Glad to see you finally change your mind @nik87

 

[Terra Arseid7]

Coa - Boost attack, defense, grants protection to weapons and protection against hax powers, ability to damage logias or special bodies such as rubber, internal damage, etc.

Coc - Boost attack, defense, ko fodders, counter regen and lunarian defense, etc.

People undervalue coa and overvalue coc.

Let's not forget that when we see a powerful attack with coc, they also usually combine it with coa.

The total power we see is the combination of the 2

 

[Cozy Sofa]

What Roger and Garp did, " Haki mass ".
Zoro King of Hell is exact Replication of it.

But the fact Zoro was using Conqueror unconsciously, He is still thinking Their powers are invincible. In egghead He never used that much of Haki again.

You could compare Zoro to Kakashi or Itachi. They have AP that puts them at Kage/Yonko-level but unlike others like Naruto or Kisame their chakra pool isn't Elite. It doesn't mean it's bad, probably equal to all the other YC/Jonin guys, but comparatively bad.

Consequentially all of them are usually holding back, saving their 2-3 shots of full powered moves for when it really matters.

Itachi due to sickness needed Edo Tensei to unlock his full power, Kakashi had to have both of Obitos eyes to not feel the effects that badly.

Question is what Zoro needs? Because as it is, even if Zoro knows the answer to how to damage them, he also knows that he will deplete all of his stamina if he tries to use King of Hell or Ashura from the get go.

 

[Peppercat]

It's so funny seeing people still pretending they understand wtf CoA, AdvCoA, CoC, AdvCoC, CoC Coating, etc.. even mean at this point 😭

Its clearly meant to be some secret or grand revelation of what exactly it is.
Fucking Haki Mass and it somehow beats the fuck out of Imu's power.
Observation Haki went to full out seeing the future.
Nobody understands what the fuck Haki is.
Used to be just."Represent Willpower". I can dig if it KOs people with your sheer presence, that has some validity, but we are far beyond it at Haki Mass nullifying demonic contract powers and Psychic shit where you have Shanks see far into the future, which was formerly just being perceptive, like evaluating how strong someone is or just you know, like the Mantra stuff.

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

Its clearly meant to be some secret or grand revelation of what exactly it is.
Fucking Haki Mass and it somehow beats the fuck out of Imu's power.
Observation Haki went to full out seeing the future.
Nobody understands what the fuck Haki is.
Used to be just."Represent Willpower". I can dig if it KOs people with your sheer presence, that has some validity, but we are far beyond it at Haki Mass nullifying demonic contract powers and Psychic shit where you have Shanks see far into the future, which was formerly just being perceptive, like evaluating how strong someone is or just you know, like the Mantra stuff.

It's anime magic, that's all it is and that's all it needs to be. Powescaling scholars need to stop getting their ankles broken by Oda

 

[ヴィハーン]

Question is what Zoro needs? Because as it is, even if Zoro knows the answer to how to damage them, he also knows that he will deplete all of his stamina if he tries to use King of Hell or Ashura from the get go.

He does not need anything.
That's simply the kind of opponent King was. You have to give out at least that much of AP to take him down.
Luffy and Lucci together for 4 hours couldn't take a inferior version of King out.