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What will be Loki next power ?


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Gaban told shanks he was not just going to trust luffy .
So that test was also about trust and seeing G5 which more important than testing haki.
Since he most like hear about it and wanted to see it him self .
He also told them to check with him afterwards so he could most like know something about luffy DF or lore about it.
Exactly, so Gaban was just interested in seeing Luffys devil fruit that's awakened, it doesn't seem like he was actually interested in seeing if Luffy can stop Loki from destroying Elbaf, since Gaban knows that Loki isn't evil anyway. So that can't really be used as an argument for Luffy>Loki, especially since Luffy wasn't even going by himself.
 
You have no idea why Gaban withheld the truth, but he still has absolutely no reason to lie to Luffy and randomly hype Shanks out of absolutely nowhere.

Bro, Luffy did beat Kaido lmfao. He ran it back more than enough times and did more than enough for us to comfortably say Luffy beat Kaido. Does that mean Luffy's overall stronger? No, Kaido could've easily won, but his dumbass will always decide to block Bajrang Gun with his face out of pure pride — it's a character flaw. Absolutely nothing fraudulent about Luffy being a Yonko.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day — any aura you gained with Cerberus was lost with that generational L of a tier list lmfao.
You don't ever try to over power luffy you will always lose lol .
But yeah as long as kaido has that pride he not beating luffy not like matter since luffy will get even stronger this arc .
He already now doing G4 move without going in G4 .
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Shanks told Gaban to allow Luffy to free Loki if he comes, this mini flashback happened the page after Gaban gave up the key so I feel their conversation had to be related . We know it's very recent based on Gaban and Shanks having their current look.
Shanks visited Elbaf before fighting Kidd and after seeing Luffy awakened, so I'd imagine it was all intentional. We also know Loki knows Shanks's current location, and this probably ties in with his recent visit as well.
 
Exactly, so Gaban was just interested in seeing Luffys devil fruit that's awakened, it doesn't seem like he was actually interested in seeing if Luffy can stop Loki from destroying Elbaf, since Gaban knows that Loki isn't evil anyway. So that can't really be used as an argument for Luffy>Loki, especially since Luffy wasn't even going by himself.
Yeah but i don't think we see anything that has Loki> Luffy either .
Even the attack that kill harald luffy would be counter to a part of it . ( plus luffy would have no issues taking ACoC hits )
Time will tell but IMO we see luffy be stronger by the end of the arc than loki.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Shanks told Gaban to allow Luffy to free Loki if he comes, this mini flashback happened the page after Gaban gave up the key so I feel their conversation had to be related . We know it's very recent based on Gaban and Shanks having their current look.
If anything this show the oppsite that Gaban would not just go off shanks word .
That why he did his little test and was fine with luffy afterwards .
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
You have no idea why Gaban withheld the truth, but he still has absolutely no reason to lie to Luffy and randomly hype Shanks out of absolutely nowhere.
Why Gaban withheld the truth is irrelevant, the point is that he did, and thus Gaban is as credible of a source of information as you are for powerscaling.

Saying Gaban hyped Saint Shanks is just wrong, Gaban is simply telling us what he, an uncredible source, thought/heard/simply lied about happened. If you were hyped by that then you were simply deluded and have no one to blame but yourself.

it’s like asking why Oda chose to have Gaban not debunk the heinous rumors about Loki, unless Oda really wanted us to believe them. Clearly faulty logic that didn’t hold up in the end. Lol

Absolutely nothing fraudulent about Luffy being a Yonko.
Bro, take a step back and realize what you are arguing. You are so blinded by your desire to be cumpstered by me that you don’t realize how dumb you sound.

Luffy did not beat Kaido 1v1, Oda ran Kaido through a gauntlet of a dozen other strong characters before Luffy finally beat him. This was the event that made Luffy a Yonko.

“But there’s no way Oda wouldn’t have Saint Shanks defeat Loki 1v1 for the event that made Saint Shanks a Yonko!”

You are arguing that there’s no way Oda wouldn’t have Saint Shanks 1v1 Loki in the event that made him a Yonko, when that’s literally exactly what Oda did for Luffy. You are contradicting yourself completely in real time.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day — any aura you gained with Cerberus was lost with that generational L of a tier list lmfao.
Like I said, none of you are even close to my level. You are all bugs who can’t comprehend a cat let alone a god. You criticizing my tier list is like an ant criticizing the laws of physics. Lol
 
Yeah but i don't think we see anything that has Loki> Luffy either .
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How would we have? Loki has just been released this chapter. Feat wise we have very little from him. What we do know is that since Luffy has entered Elbaf, he has been nothing but amazed by Loki and his powers, that includes this chapter, but started pretty much since he entered this arc and sensed his powers. We also know that Loki taking out Harald is a bigger thing to put on his resume then anything Luffy has before Wano, at the very least(and this was when he had just recently got his fruit and wasn't even a pirate yet...). The portrayal here is simple, Loki isn't just a tough characters the strawhats meet along the way, he literally impressed Imu so much he didn't send Holy Knights after him, is connected to 2 top tiers from the old gen like Luffy and Teach are, and has one of the two mythical zoans that Rocks thought could help take down Imu.
 
Luffy did not beat Kaido 1v1, Oda ran Kaido through a gauntlet of a dozen other strong characters before Luffy finally beat him. This was the event that made Luffy a Yonko.
I really hope you not calling people like sacbbards strong characters.
Kaido did not even bother to dodge or block there attacks .
They were fodder to him .
After that it Zoro and Law and then Yamato who matter .
 
He wasn’t. He wanted to see if Luffy awoke Nikas powers. If he was testing Luffy he would’ve used Haki in his attack against him to actually make it a test.

Not everything is power levels
He said "Ah, that's the white form I heard about". That means he was surprised and not expecting it.

Gaban knew that Loki is a loose fucking canon. He wouldn't just let him free without someone being able to restrain him.

Not everything is power levels
They're literally fighting lmfao. That is LITERALLY about power levels. Luffy awakening a power is him "reaching the peak" of his power.
 
How would we have? Loki has just been released this chapter. Feat wise we have very little from him. What we do know is that since Luffy has entered Elbaf, he has been nothing but amazed by Loki and his powers, that includes this chapter, but started pretty much since he entered this arc and sensed his powers. We also know that Loki taking out Harald is a bigger thing to put on his resume then anything Luffy has before Wano, at the very least(and this was when he had just recently got his fruit and wasn't even a pirate yet...). The portrayal here is simple, Loki isn't just a tough characters the strawhats meet along the way, he literally impressed Imu so much he didn't send Holy Knights after him, is connected to 2 top tiers from the old gen like Luffy and Teach are, and has one of the two mythical zoans that Rocks thought could help take down Imu.
Loki taking out harald is harald allowing him self to be kill .
It impressive but we have to find out how loki was able to do it with his DF and haki .
As for the rest Imu not sending other HK after loki feel so half ass since he did it 14 years later with shamrock and gunko .
Oda wanting to keep elbaf safe and made Imu not even try attack and take it over before now feel so lazy and loki was not even there.
But that more of a me issues with how he write this .
 
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