Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

[MonochromeYoru]

Neither was Gunko when she first saw Brook. But once the memories of loved ones came they were freed momentarily

The death of Ida was the first things he talked about when he was back. As of now we have zero evidence beating up HKs frees them from the mind control but two times has loved ones been brought up

Bro gunko had to remember brook first cause it been 80 years
harald was literally fighting loki and the giants like 30 seconds before, and he fully knew who loki and jarul was

We also have DR xebec getting beaten up and losing his DR.

 

[Superior to you]

“ODa dOesN’T cArE” yea keep coping buddy we got receipts.

Where are the feats? Some cover page nonsense, weird panels, and Robin statement which you losers milk to this day.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Loki is stronger than Kaido.

I’d almost put him at Kizaru level.

 

[Levi]

Loki is stronger than Kaido.

I’d almost put him at Kizaru level.

 

[Welkin]

Nah, PRAISE THE GOD KING.

He called Shanks two things.

A coward (Likely for stopping him from going after the WG).

And

A Great Pirate. Which shows he respects him.

They obviously fought lol, if Shanks used underhanded tactics he wouldnt call him a great pirate.

I just don’t think there was a fight and if they did fight it was short

Similar to how Shanks was able to appease Kaido and send him back to Onigashima

Shanks is a skilled combatant and diplomat

I think they had a conversation and he was able to convince Loki to wait for the right time

Just the logistics of hauling an unwilling Loki back to Elbaf after chaining him up makes it too hard to believe (among other things obviously)

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Loki vs Roger and garp be like --

@TheD. @Elder Lee Hung @DJOMOLO @DarkestKnightofSpoilers @park_min young

Is that Loki vs Zoro and Sanji?

@Mr. Reloaded doesn't look good for chicken wings duo....

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

With Gunko, since she was killing people at God Valley, and seems to be pretty big on the "I'm a God, you insects" thing, I would say Imu's hold on her has been pretty strong.

But having someone from her see her again had to be pretty unlikely, so I can't fault Imu for not being ready for such a slim possibility.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

There’s also a possibility that they didn’t fight and Loki made a deal with Shanks. This arc is filled with misdirections

What sort of deal ends with him getting locked up for 6 years and trying to break away by making other deals with other people?

It was assumed that Loki killed his father due to greed and that wasn’t the case, Brook assumes that Gunko (Shuri) killed her father with bad intentions and that clearly isn’t the case

once again, you're expecting a misdirection just because there was misdirection in the arc earlier. that's faulty reasoning.

Not to mention Loki knows something about Shanks/his location

How do you explain that if there’s no current connection between them?

Cause shank was literally in elfab and saw loki like 2 days ago lol.


There can be a deal with shank. But the chaining is not part of the deal. loki wouldn't voluntarily chain himself up, when he's clearly shown trying to break out of it.

The "deal" is most likely shank beating up loki, chaining him and telling him that it isn't time yet.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Honestly, either Shanks and Loki did fight, and he knocked Loki into the sea and subdued him that way, or he had a sitdown, but then had the sake drugged and took him out that way.

At the moment, him defeating a monster like Loki with just his dinky little Saber alone doesn't seem feasible anymore.

 

[park_min young]

Neither was Gunko when she first saw Brook. But once the memories of loved ones came they were freed momentarily.

The death of Ida was the first things he talked about when he was back. As of now we have zero evidence beating up HKs frees them from the mind control but two times has loved ones been brought up

Why are y’all still coping about this. The entire narrative was about Loki overpowering Harald with the df. Harald was fighting Loki just 20 minutes ago, and there were no hints of this Disney power of love and bullshit ever affecting him. He then fought Loki again and still didn’t have a reaction, he was more interested in the devil fruit.

Gaban and Imu: “I didn’t know that such power exists”

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Is that Loki vs Zoro and Sanji?

@Mr. Reloaded doesn't look good for chicken wings duo....

It's the Chicken Wings duo pre-elbaf power up

 

[BestGen]

Where are the feats? Some cover page nonsense, weird panels, and Robin statement which you losers milk to this day.

Coming from the magazine loving clan
Edgy ass hypocrite

 

[ice-flo]

That

Is that Loki vs Zoro and Sanji?

@Mr. Reloaded doesn't look good for chicken wings duo....

that's Domi reversi Ragnir Domi reversi Loki Domi reversi Sanji vs Zoro's earrings alone . (All three can't even scratch his earrings)

 

[Shiroyru]

Why? Did Harald not just stand there and tell Loki to kill him before the infection takes over again?

We literally see him trying to attack Loki before getting thrashed

 

[Zemlya]

Honestly, either Shanks and Loki did fight, and he knocked Loki into the sea and subdued him that way, or he had a sitdown, but then had the sake drugged and took him out that way.

At the moment, him defeating a monster like Loki with just his dinky little Saber alone doesn't seem feasible anymore.

Haki innit

 

[Ashish]

Loki is stronger than Kaido.

I’d almost put him at Kizaru level.

I'd almost put you upon him

 

[park_min young]

Oda sets up Loki as this ultimate being born from Harald himself, and having more innate potential than any other top-tier we’ve seen. Loki then eats the df that Xebec wanted for Harald, the df that is monumental for taking on the entire world government. It is now then confirmed that the df is mentioned in the prophesied Harley text.

Average worstgen reader: “No, Harald only lost because of the power of love”



It’s very explicit that Loki is the full potential version of Harald that Xebec wanted to recruit for his plans.

 

[Welkin]

What sort of deal ends with him getting locked up for 6 years and trying to break away by making other deals with other people?

People have limits. Shanks could’ve assured Loki that “the one” will come one day and that will be the right time to wage war. Loki agreed but after waiting for half a decade he’s decided that he longer believes in it

Think Oimo and Kashi in Enies Lobby. Assured that they’d be brought to Dorry and Brogy and they waited 50 (?) years

once again, you're expecting a misdirection just because there was misdirection in the arc earlier. that's faulty reasoning.

You and I both know that Oda loves to abuse patterns when it comes to his writing. Does he do it all the time? No, which is why I acknowledge there’s a chance that I’m wrong

But I do think it’s likely that a deal was struck

Cause shank was literally in elfab and saw loki like 2 days ago lol.


There can be a deal with shank. But the chaining is not part of the deal. loki wouldn't voluntarily chain himself up, when he's clearly shown trying to break out of it.

The "deal" is most likely shank beating up loki, chaining him and telling him that it isn't time yet.

The part about it not being time yet is nearly a guarantee at this point. I just don’t think they had a full fight

I’m not gonna say an exchange didn’t happen. But I don’t think it ended with Loki being defeated and forced into chains

I think Loki is a more sensible character than people give him credit for

 

[Fujishiro]

Honestly, either Shanks and Loki did fight, and he knocked Loki into the sea and subdued him that way, or he had a sitdown, but then had the sake drugged and took him out that way.

At the moment, him defeating a monster like Loki with just his dinky little Saber alone doesn't seem feasible anymore.

We thought the same about Kaido.

 

[Cruxroux]

We thought the same about Kaido.

Did we? Pretty sure Oden flashback cleared all the doubts to us.