Controversial General Political Discussion

[Reborn]

To me, it's geopolitics.

As long as US is backing Israel, either this will keep on going or we will see Israel taking over everything.

And, US is backing Israel simply because long term geopolitics is getting prioritized - Israel is the strongest hold USA has to counter China and Russia influence in Middle East and even counter Iran.

USA simply won't do anything to dent it's relationship with Israel.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

No they’re not lmao

What the Japanese did to China just recently makes Gaza look like child’s play

bayoneting actual babies is way more cruel than just sending a random bomb to a place where civilians might live

you just want to label this the worst for some reason,

You don’t even need to go back that far
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

This happened between 1998 and 2003. Over 5 million people died, 350 thousand of which were violent deaths.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Israel is the strongest hold USA has to counter China and Russia influence in Middle East and even counter Iran.

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Israel and Russia/China don't really diverge in Geopolitics when it comes to the region

 

[Reborn]

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Israel and Russia/China don't really diverge in Geopolitics when it comes to the region

Not really

They have three primary interests

1) Energy for obvious reasons

2) China allies with everyone for trade. Infact, China has better relations with Arabs Nations including Iran.

3) Security - Russia co-ordinate with Israel if necessary but Russia also allies with Iran.



But, USA? USA and Israel are strategic partners. This goes beyond anything Russia and China have with Israel.

And, knowing China growing influence and Russia balancing ties over there, Israel became even more important geopolticallly for USA than before

 

[Roo]

To me, it's geopolitics.

As long as US is backing Israel, either this will keep on going or we will see Israel taking over everything.

And, US is backing Israel simply because long term geopolitics is getting prioritized - Israel is the strongest hold USA has to counter China and Russia influence in Middle East and even counter Iran.

USA simply won't do anything to dent it's relationship with Israel.

same with Saudi Arabia. The U.S lets them do all the illiberal shit they want yet I don’t see anyone claiming the U.S is controlled by Arabs

 

[Reborn]

same with Saudi Arabia. The U.S lets them do all the illiberal shit they want yet I don’t see anyone claiming the U.S is controlled by Arabs

Anyone who claims Israel controls USA perhaps trying to make sense of USA support to Israel by oversimplification and ignoring geopoltical interest.


Infact, what guides USA is not control but strategic and geopoltical interests in the region which results into such support for Israel.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Russia also allies with Iran.

Russia also allies with UAE who is Israel's No.1 ally in the region

 

[Reborn]

Russia also allies with UAE who is Israel's No.1 ally in the region

That's what balancing of ties in the region means.

And, knowing China growing influence and Russia balancing ties over there, Israel became even more important geopolticallly for USA than before

Russia is trying to balance ties with everyone to maintain it's leverage.

China is trying to increase its footprint through trade and infrastructure development

USA is trying to maintain it's dominance and stronghold in the region and Israel is key strategic partner for that purpose

 

[Roo]

Anyone who claims Israel controls USA perhaps trying to make sense of USA support to Israel by oversimplification and ignoring geopoltical interest.


Infact, what guides USA is not control but strategic and geopoltical interests in the region which results into such support for Israel.

A lot of conspiracies are formed by people who see complicated things and try to simplify them

Reality is just more nuanced and complex than simple boogeymen

 

[Reborn]

A lot of conspiracies are formed by people who see complicated things and try to simplify them

Reality is just more nuanced and complex than simple boogeymen

I mean people still doubts Apollo 11 landing on the moon and made it a conspiracy which people believes even now.

So, I really don't expect people to make sense out of geopolitical interests which is actually central to most of the actions including humanitarian ones sometimes (unfortunately yes) taken by countries.

 

[Midnight Delight]

That's what balancing of ties in the region means.



Russia is trying to balance ties with everyone to maintain it's leverage.

China is trying to increase its footprint through trade and infrastructure development

USA is trying to maintain it's dominance and stronghold in the region and Israel is key strategic partner for that purpose

You miss the point

Israel has never at any point put American Interests above theirs when it comes to Russia and China and India

And legit no president Before weirdly Trump Expected them to

 

[Reborn]

You miss the point

Israel has never at any point put American Interests above theirs when it comes to Russia and China and India

And legit no president Before weirdly Trump Expected them to

You are confusing national interests and geopoltical interests.

Every nation will put national interests as first priority. Geopolitical interests have to align with national interests.

Israel - USA geoplotical interests aligns way more and that's why they are strategic partners but this doesn't mean Israel has to treat Russia or China like USA does.

Infact, Israel do co-operate with them when it comes to national interests like in case of technology agreements with China but at the same time, Israel often adjust its policies according to USA.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Israel - USA geoplotical interests aligns way more

Does it?

 

[Daniel]

Hopefully people now can broaden their minds and realize everything they learned in history class was bullcrap brainwashing, they painted the good guys as bad guys and vice versa

This also applies to current manipulations to the food, drug and medical industries etc

When you control the money and the media you can lie about everything 😂

When all the subjects and topics you learned in Social Studies are basically extra reading and do almost nothing to help with the knowledge you need to survive the harsh landscape of modern life.