Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

Which devil fruit is more impressive?


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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Which is the same as shit Kaido fans was using:
Point went over your head. Whether it was a chapter title or in story title, It would just further reinforce not to take titles seriously. Loki would absolutely still benefit from it as it means he's the new toy and Oda doesn't care about prior titles (which is already the case like I said). It wouldn't protect Loki going forward though.
 
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It was actually Harald who got sent flying reread the chapter well
He slices Loki then Loki smacks him with his claw, which is why in the next panel we see Harald all diced up. Loki then squishes his head and he wakes up
Imu and Jarul's narrative also support this, dude is centered in the middle of the mural towering like a giant arse dragon
I stand corrected on the sent flying part.
 
Y'all don't realise how much irreversible damage this chapter title could have caused to all the world title wielder if there was some secret "world strongest" dude who just takes a dump on all the others and he was always there.

So yes, it's actually good this stuff was ultimately meant for mothers because like I said, Loki would have completely destroyed the entire powerscaling structure beyond repair.
Why would anyone ruminate about hypothetical situations like this that will never actually happen:kriwhat:

Irreversible damage would also be caused if an admiral was momentarily paralysed from the sheer CoC emulating from shanks’ sw-
wait nvm
 
Sorry... but what kind of answer is this?

Kaido was hyped for and he hyped his special lineage, his "Not being a human, but a creature"; an instrument of war. He even said it to Yamato:

Loki too has a special lineage that made other people fear and hate him, only much, much better.



Again, what answer is this?

Kaido was hyped to be the big, baddest thug of his kingdom; Loki was exactly the same, only of Erbaf, the country of War.



Loki surviving as a toddler and not managing to die as a child >> Kaido falling as a 60 YO, dragon man with scales.

On this, Oda made basically a 1:1.




It's not hard: Kaido has elemental powers, Loki has much better ones. Which is expected, since they both are dragons. And once again, Kaido looked like the tiny version of Loki.



As Luffy, as Imu, etc. So Nika is the same as Onimaru?

Doesn't change that there are two dragon fruits and Kaiod turned out to have the cheap version of Loki's.



And once again, Loki got the far more legendary, stronger blut weapon. Reference to Mjolnir and as strong as a top tier itself.



Those are mostyl 1:1 comparisons which Oda likely wanted to make:

Mutant ancient giant > Oni
Falling as a toddler > Kaido at 60
Baddest thug in Erbaf > Baddest thug in vodka
God dragon fruit > Walmart version Dragon fruit
Ragnir > Kanabo

And so on.
That is not special lineage but being an outsider, not compatible with humans. The very first line speaks of trauma, their acts of kindness were lies. Loki was a mutant in the royal family. How exactly are these two comparable? A more powerful royal kid is more similar to Oden than to Kaido if Oden was ugly.

Kaido was thug of kingdom who waged war and Kaido was the strongest soldier and got betrayed by his king which probably lead to his trauma and saying what he said to Yamato. Loki could not integrate with children of his age. WTF is this comparison.

Again completely different things but you say surviving a fall and attempting suicide as a drunk hobby is equal so I don't even know what to argue.

Imagine if looking bigger is the best comparison you can bring when in OP sizes differ per the authors wishes like we did not see Shodai change in size just last arc, so Shodai used by Nasujuro in hybrid is better than Shodai used by Nasujuro in human form. One is eastern dragon the other is western dragon. On what basis does Loki have better elemental powers shown so far? Snow and lightning compared to fire and wind?

Tell me Kaidos fruit wasn't the most hyped one in GV. Cheap version of Lokis? Two completely different fruits but okay.

By your ranking, Ragnir is the strongest weapon in the world because it can fight on its own?
 
Point went over your head. Whether it was a chapter title or in story title, It would just further reinforce not to take titles seriously. Loki would absolutely still benefit from it as it means he's the new toy and Oda doesn't care about prior titles (which is already the case like I said). It wouldn't protect Loki going forward though.
No I understood your point. My point is simply it is clownish for Loki fans to use that chapter title for Loki while ignoring Kaido's (as many Loki-supporters already did before), and it would be clownish for Kaido fans to ignore that title that they used to hype up Kaido, by ignoring this chapter title if it's for Loki himself.

Either way using the chapter title at all is clown behavior on both sides. As for what you think Oda cares about or doesn't care about, i'll leave that to you and Oda.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Loki brigade for 1 day experienced what mihawkbros have had forever
@Worstgenhq gave them a 24 hour free trial :josad:


It wasn't a title though, it was a chapter title that would have completely shit on actual titles given in the story since it contradicts them. Not necessary since Loki is being shown to be outright stronger than Kaidou anyway, but it would have made it that much more of a blatant shooting down of titles.
Actually, Kaido is beating Loki at his own game.
Blazing Bagua is many times bigger than Aurust Castle.
So Loki's biggest advantage, the size, is still not enough to match Kaido's size.
Either way, Lokibros jumped onto a WS title like blind hype train riders that they are.

All of them in his top 5 are stronger than kaido
 
Loki thinks he´s the sungod because he thinks he´s going to destroy the world and start ragnarok,not because he has some type of Nika fruit, which we know is all about having a silly design, rubber powers and transforming into white(we had people point this out in Egghead for example, Kuma, Saturn etc)Loki also thought Rocks, who had no devil fruit was Nika. Him eating the Elbaf fruit was completely accidental and not something he knew the lore of, but we know that serpents like creatures are worshipped on Skypia, and Loki has always been associated with animals, @Shiroyru has a point that Loki could be the forrest god

And I hope you´re not seriously arguing that Rocks was looking for Loki and Luffys fruits, which are both somehow Nika fruits, when Rocks didn´t even know wtf Nika was, that just makes zero sense.
Also, Loki’s powers (ice and lightning) have 0 association with the Sun.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
No I understood your point. My point is simply it is clownish for Loki fans to use that chapter title for Loki while ignoring Kaido's (as many Loki-supporters already did before), and it would be clownish for Kaido fans to ignore that title that they used to hype up Kaido, by ignoring this chapter title if it's for Loki himself.

Either way using the chapter title at all is clown behavior on both sides. As for what you think Oda cares about or doesn't care about, i'll leave that to you and Oda.
You missed the point again. Loki having that in the chapter title literally de legitimizes Kaidou's claim that people were using.

It doesn't have to do with believing WS titles all of a sudden.
 



Actually, Kaido is beating Loki at his own game.
Blazing Bagua is many times bigger than Aurust Castle.
So Loki's biggest advantage, the size, is still not enough to match Kaido's size.
Either way, Lokibros jumped onto a WS title like blind hype train riders that they are.


The size comparison thing is so stupid.

Most Loki wankers are just fans of other characters in disguise because now they have a new character who has a chance of usurping Kaido. Oden gave PTSD to Kaido but Kaido is giving PTSD to his haters, specially the side quest mid diff fans.
 
Loki is starting to resemble Momonosuke more and more. You're trying to project roles onto him that never existed, and at the end of the arc, it all goes to waste.


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He´s more similar to Momonosukes dad or Yamato´s dad then either of them lol. You guys do realize that Loki has already had major accomplishments under his belt?:
Without knowing his biggest accomplishment of stopping Harald, he got 2.6 billion bounty
Stopping Harald(one of the strongest of the old gen before getting deep seals) was such a big accomplishment that Gaban with help was not only unable to do it, but also amazed that Loki could somehow pull off, with him not being sure how the world can even deal with Harald if he got loose.
Taming Ragnir, which Harald implied that he couldn´t do previously(maybe dubious) but other Giant kings objectively could not do

And that somehow reminds you of momo lol?
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
He´s more similar to Momonosukes dad or Yamato´s dad then either of them lol. You guys do realize that Loki has already had major accomplishments under his belt?:
Without knowing his biggest accomplishment of stopping Harald, he got 2.6 billion bounty
Stopping Harald(one of the strongest of the old gen before getting deep seals) was such a big accomplishment that Gaban with help was not only unable to do it, but also amazed that Loki could somehow pull off, with him not being sure how the world can even deal with Harald if he got loose.
Taming Ragnir, which Harald implied that he couldn´t do previously(maybe dubious) but other Giant kings objectively could not do

And that somehow reminds you of momo lol?
Loki: Has the best feats in the entire verse.
One Piece powerscalers: He's momo.
 
Here we go with the idiocracy on this forum

Oda literally has Loki state he is the Sun God and Elbaph straight up argues if the Sun God is either a Liberator (Luffy) or a Destroyer (Loki).

How are you interpreting Jarul's statement any other way than both of them being represented by this?
Lool the whole point of the arc will be Loki realising that Luffy is the real Sun God — y'all gotta stop forgetting who the main character is.

You really think that after 1170+ chapters, Oda's gonna introduce a 2nd main character who is equally as strong and important as Luffy? Cmon bro, Loki is a side character and destined to become yet another Luffy cheerleader.
 
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