Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

[sanjikun]

Loki on paper rn has feats that are 3 maybe 4 times the caliber of the next best person. Whoever that is. Be it Roger, Garp, WB, Shanks, Akainu. It's actually crazy even to me.

I mean an old legend when he was a lot younger took place in the same battle with help and he was helpless against the same dude Loki defeated. And after the fight he admitted it out of his own mouth that he didn't think Harald could possibly be stopped. He is that far ahead of everyone else rn in accomplishments.

Harald "couldn't be stopped" because of Imu's immortality. Loki doesn't have immortality in case you haven't noticed.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Okay

I did just go back and reread a few of the statements made by some of the Giants about Nika. Yes, they plainly state the Sun God is just Nika.

Regardless, all of you can call it whatever you want but I dont think Loki is any of the other Gods nor the serpent now, whether or not of his Sun God affiliation.

I think that, given Rocks' statements about both fruits, given Jarul's statements about Loki's fruit being the cause of the end of the world, the fact that Nika gets argued and confused by Elbaph citizens to be a Liberator or Destroyer, all shows us that the Nika had some past affiliation with the Dragon by his side.

We know its not the Earth God because the Earth God has its "own" Serpent that fought against the Sun God. The Forest and Sea Gods arent mentioned until the 2nd World, and neither of their descriptions seem to fit what Loki can do anyway.


Tldr: Even if he's not called the Sun God, hes definitely part of the reason why people think Nika is violent and a destroyer.

Think of a dragon rider and his dragon, thousands of years ago. Thats what Im insinuating here. They are meeting again.



Read the above please. While yes I can agree that Luffy is the sole Sun God, i dont think he's alone in why Nika is called certain things.

I actually think the idea... isn't stupid? That would explain why there's both Nika liberator and Nika the destroyer while fitting with Jarul words at the end of the chapter.

 

[ZenZu]

Harald "couldn't be stopped" because of Imu's immortality. Loki doesn't have immortality in case you haven't noticed.

What does Loki being mortal have to do with him stopping Immortal Harald, something Gaban with Shanks' help couldn't come close to doing. And admitted he thought it was the end of the world as he knew it?

 

[Xione]

The forest god tamed demons and the sun spread the fires of war.
Those of the half-moon dreamed.
Those of the moon dreamed.
Man killed the sun and became god, and the sea god stormed.

@soupongo idk what more evidence people need, other than understanding Oda just giving GB some clownish moments. The characters he feels comfortable clowning with are the ones who end up being the strongest.


Enters Wano taming Beast Pirates who terrorized Wano. Then was taming the Scabbards.

Spoiler

- Flat out tells us the Forest, despite his fruit name being wood-wood, he makes sure to use the term "THE FOREST" is on par with the Sea.... and look at that 2 arcs later we're told about the Sun God/ Forest God/ Sea God.


Aramaki is a God.

 

[Zemlya]

Actual representations of these titles
Kizaru - sun god
Akainu - earth god
Fujitora - rain god
Ryokugyu - forest god

I assume the rain in this case is the sweat from when I had to climb a set of stairs

 

[sanjikun]

What does this have to do with Loki stopping Immortal Harald?

Because Gaban was specifically talking about immortality. Loki doesn't have it. That's Imu's power.

I don't know if you noticed this, but KOing Harald doesn't give you Imu's DF.

 

[soupongo]

LMAOOOO this clown seriously takes obviously exaggerated editor comments seriously

It just means Kings dragon could be slain. It’s just a way to create hype. Not all dragons can be one shot. Massive cope LMFAOOOO

We´ve reached genuine schiznophrenia, like do people think Loki is a literal dragon, forgetting what a devil fruit even is lol?

 

[sanjikun]

Lool the whole point of the arc will be Loki realising that Luffy is the real Sun God — y'all gotta stop forgetting who the main character is.

You really think that after 1170+ chapters, Oda's gonna introduce a 2nd main character who is equally as strong and important as Luffy? Cmon bro, Loki is a side character and destined to become yet another Luffy cheerleader.

"As strong"? Nah bro he low diffs 3 Luffys combined... This is their rhetoric atm.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Tell me Kaidos fruit wasn't the most hyped one in GV. Cheap version of Lokis? Two completely different fruits but okay.

Loki’s fruit is one of the two fruits Rocks thought could end the world. Kaido’s fruit is literally just some mythical Zoan with zero hype. How are you even comparing the two lol.

 

[Xione]

I assume the rain in this case is the sweat from when I had to climb a set of stairs

 

[ZenZu]

Because Gaban was specifically talking about immortality. Loki doesn't have it. That's Imu's power.

I don't know if you noticed this, but KOing Harald doesn't give you Imu's DF.

Hey genius, Imu aside (cause we don't even know who or what he is, how his abilities work), we're discussing who has the best feat in the verse.

Loki being mortal only strengthens his claim over anyone else. Heck even if I say someone else was somehow capable of taking out HK Harald, they didn't actually do it. No feat comes close to it as of rn. Gaban and Shanks being helpless in the same situation gives the readers an idea of how impressive it's supposed to be.

 

[soupongo]

Harald "couldn't be stopped" because of Imu's immortality. Loki doesn't have immortality in case you haven't noticed.

Bro Sanjikun, you´re literally just yapping at this point. Did you miss the fact that Gaban stopped several Holy Knights before Harald, like, this was made explicit lmfao.

So know, Immortality is not enough to be a major problem to the world. It´s literally Haralds strength.

 

[Zemlya]

Fuji used his gravity fruit to move my finger and cause that typo. I better watch who I talk shit about

 

[Xione]

@HA001 @Blazing Lion @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier

Hi guysss. We ready to run ZKL? Zoro Kills DR Loki for all of Elbaf to see, surpassing the legendary Ryuuma?!

 

[SakazOuki]

I assume the rain in this case is the sweat from when I had to climb a set of stairs

Fattora for a reason

 

[Zemlya]

Fattora for a reason

I’m more of a “Fujitorso” guy myself

 

[Dragon777]

Loki’s fruit is one of the two fruits Rocks thought could end the world. Kaido’s fruit is literally just some mythical Zoan with zero hype. How are you even comparing the two lol.

Which is even better, considering Kaido's fruit was one of the prizes of the random annual massacre game for the sloppy CDs, while the other was specifically targeted by Imu and Xebec both lol.

 

[soupongo]

@soupongo idk what more evidence people need, other than understanding Oda just giving GB some clownish moments. The characters he feels comfortable clowning with are the ones who end up being the strongest.


Enters Wano taming Beast Pirates who terrorized Wano. Then was taming the Scabbards.

Spoiler

- Flat out tells us the Forest, despite his fruit name being wood-wood, he makes sure to use the term "THE FOREST" is on par with the Sea.... and look at that 2 arcs later we're told about the Sun God/ Forest God/ Sea God.


Aramaki is a God.

I like Gigabull more than the next guy, but i´m pretty skeptical that he would be associated to the greater lore of the series with the gods and stuff. His fruit power is simply the power of forests that people would have naturally observed, not the same as the mythological forrest god, which isnt the same thing(Luffy has the sun god power, but he doesn´t actually have anything to do with the sun) Niddhogg seems more likely to be the forest god then a logia

 

[Sentinel]

Loki being mortal only strengthens his claim over anyone else. Heck even if I say someone else was somehow capable of taking out HK Harald, they didn't actually do it. No feat comes close to it as of rn. Gaban and Shanks being helpless in the same situation gives the readers an idea of how impressive it's supposed to be.

Sanjikun would be the first one repeating how Kaido is the true Nr. 1 if he even remotely replicated half of the feats Loki has shown against Ragnir and HK Harald. Like, we'd read his Kaido wank till the end of this manga.

But since this is a completely new character who completely outclasses all his "great pirates", that's when he started having issues with. This dude still thinks Roger's gonna be a threat to endgame Nika. Just lol

 

[Blazing Lion]

@HA001 @Blazing Lion @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier

Hi guysss. We ready to run ZKL? Zoro Kills DR Loki for all of Elbaf to see, surpassing the legendary Ryuuma?!

I don't think Loki is going to be an antagonist