Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

[Xione]

You missed the point again. Loki having that in the chapter title literally de legitimizes Kaidou's claim that people were using.

It doesn't have to do with believing WS titles all of a sudden.
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Yea, I agree, that's why I was saying if Kaido fans used the chapter title "Island of the Strongest" for Kaido, then they have to submit to Loki, if the chapter title is about Loki, otherwise it's hypocrisy.

 

[Hako Sama]

That's because some people, instead of thinking about who the final enemies were, kept talking nonsense about "pirate manga" and Emperors being relevant when in fact they were stepping stones.

I'm not even talking about the storytelling. It was obvious that Kaido and Big Mom weren't endgame material as characters. I'm talking about the fellas that changed their agenda like they change their shoes, and started to humiliate the characters they used to dick ride.

That's pathetic and shameful.

 

[Sheer D. Lusion]

people think the chapter title is about loki ?

LMAO

it is about the parents love for their children . it is a mention to the scene where they chose to die with the children

 

[Kumathegoat]

it is about loki, bro

 

[soupongo]

Loki: Has the best feats in the entire verse.
One Piece powerscalers: He's momo.

It´s like everyone just forgot that Imu himself, in a flashback where Imu was borderline indifferent to Rocks and Roger, was literally shook at what Loki accomplished. I have no idea how you can compare him to past allies Luffy had, least of all the likes of Momo....

 

[ZenZu]

Yea, I agree, that's why I was saying if Kaido fans used the chapter title "Island of the Strongest" for Kaido, then they have to submit to Loki, if the chapter title is about Loki, otherwise it's hypocrisy.

Yes I was telling Nik this. This would just more blatantly vindicate people who didn't take that title seriously. It has nothing to do with worshipping titles all of a sudden. It's the opposite, it would confirm the people who didn't take them seriously won.

 

[Levi]

He´s more similar to Momonosukes dad or Yamato´s dad then either of them lol. You guys do realize that Loki has already had major accomplishments under his belt?:
Without knowing his biggest accomplishment of stopping Harald, he got 2.6 billion bounty
Stopping Harald(one of the strongest of the old gen before getting deep seals) was such a big accomplishment that Gaban with help was not only unable to do it, but also amazed that Loki could somehow pull off, with him not being sure how the world can even deal with Harald if he got loose.
Taming Ragnir, which Harald implied that he couldn´t do previously(maybe dubious) but other Giant kings objectively could not do

And that somehow reminds you of momo lol?

More so a chosen child
most likely voat
ancient weapon in wano,
can talk and command zunesha
ruler of wano
Most likely awaken kaido df that he couldn’t
Lead the samurai in the finale war like on the moral.
I mean he’s not Loki lvl of power but he’s just important like shirahoshi.

 

[nik87]

Loki: Has the best feats in the entire verse.
One Piece powerscalers: He's momo.

lol at Loki having the best feats.

 

[Hako Sama]

Imagine.

 

[TheD.]

Loki: Has the best feats in the entire verse.
One Piece powerscalers: He's momo.

Zoro fans*

I don’t think some of them are even real
People typing,just drones made by a real Zoro fan out there to spread their zoro agenda.

 

[Levi]

So you turned out to be a fraud like @Loki D. Terror. What about @Hanzo hattori ?

You think kaido>loki?

 

[𝒜𝓆𝓊𝒾𝓁𝒶]

He´s more similar to Momonosukes dad or Yamato´s dad then either of them lol. You guys do realize that Loki has already had major accomplishments under his belt?:
Without knowing his biggest accomplishment of stopping Harald, he got 2.6 billion bounty
Stopping Harald(one of the strongest of the old gen before getting deep seals) was such a big accomplishment that Gaban with help was not only unable to do it, but also amazed that Loki could somehow pull off, with him not being sure how the world can even deal with Harald if he got loose.
Taming Ragnir, which Harald implied that he couldn´t do previously(maybe dubious) but other Giant kings objectively could not do

And that somehow reminds you of momo lol?

I’m not talking about what Loki has already achieved; claiming that Loki is somehow a second Sun God is the same as the theories suggesting Momonosuke is Joyboy or Uranus.

 

[ZenZu]

Zoro fans*

I don’t think some of them are even real
People typing,just drones made by a real Zoro fan out there to spread their zoro agenda.

He's responding to a Luffy fan. A lot of people are insecure about Loki because he came out of nowhere and quite literally overshadowed the shit out of long time characters like Roger, and in such a blatant way too.

 

[nik87]

You think kaido>loki?

Very much possible and likely is.
We will see, nothing is definitive.

 

[soupongo]

I’m not talking about what Loki has already achieved; claiming that Loki is somehow a second Sun God is the same as the theories suggesting Momonosuke is Joyboy or Uranus.

Ah, my bad

 

[Paperchampion23]

Sun god road = sun god loki same thing

Elbaf citizens called Nika a God of Liberation, God of Destruction, and God of Laughter. Wouldn’t there have to be 3 Nika’s in that case?

Rocks’s plot didn’t even involve the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Nika at all, seeing as how he didn’t even know who Nika was until Harald told him, so Rocks’s plan isn’t really even relevant here since we know that the true way to defeat Imu will involve Luffy’s fruit

Where does the full summary imply that? Jarul just mentions the Sun God riding a dragon

There’s 4 figures that the Harley mural highlights the most, and 4 figures in the Harley text that get highlighted the most. Seems like the most straightforward interpretation would be that those 4 figures in the mural correspond to the 4 figures in the text

Ok

Loki thinks he´s the sungod because he thinks he´s going to destroy the world and start ragnarok,not because he has some type of Nika fruit, which we know is all about having a silly design, rubber powers and transforming into white(we had people point this out in Egghead for example, Kuma, Saturn etc)Loki also thought Rocks, who had no devil fruit was Nika. Him eating the Elbaf fruit was completely accidental and not something he knew the lore of, but we know that serpents like creatures are worshipped on Skypia, and Loki has always been associated with animals, @Shiroyru has a point that Loki could be the forrest god

And I hope you´re not seriously arguing that Rocks was looking for Loki and Luffys fruits, which are both somehow Nika fruits, when Rocks didn´t even know wtf Nika was, that just makes zero sense.

Okay

I did just go back and reread a few of the statements made by some of the Giants about Nika. Yes, they plainly state the Sun God is just Nika.

Regardless, all of you can call it whatever you want but I dont think Loki is any of the other Gods nor the serpent now, whether or not of his Sun God affiliation.

I think that, given Rocks' statements about both fruits, given Jarul's statements about Loki's fruit being the cause of the end of the world, the fact that Nika gets argued and confused by Elbaph citizens to be a Liberator or Destroyer, all shows us that the Nika had some past affiliation with the Dragon by his side.

We know its not the Earth God because the Earth God has its "own" Serpent that fought against the Sun God. The Forest and Sea Gods arent mentioned until the 2nd World, and neither of their descriptions seem to fit what Loki can do anyway.


Tldr: Even if he's not called the Sun God, hes definitely part of the reason why people think Nika is violent and a destroyer.

Think of a dragon rider and his dragon, thousands of years ago. Thats what Im insinuating here. They are meeting again.

Lool the whole point of the arc will be Loki realising that Luffy is the real Sun God — y'all gotta stop forgetting who the main character is.

You really think that after 1170+ chapters, Oda's gonna introduce a 2nd main character who is equally as strong and important as Luffy? Cmon bro, Loki is a side character and destined to become yet another Luffy cheerleader.

Read the above please. While yes I can agree that Luffy is the sole Sun God, i dont think he's alone in why Nika is called certain things.

 

[Redboy776]

lol at Loki having the best feats.

That is a way to say Zoro.


Hakkai is the best feat.

 

[ZenZu]

lol at Loki having the best feats.

Loki on paper rn has feats that are 3 maybe 4 times the caliber of the next best person. Whoever that is. Be it Roger, Garp, WB, Shanks, Akainu. It's actually crazy even to me.

I mean an old legend when he was a lot younger took place in the same battle with help and he was helpless against the same dude Loki defeated. And after the fight he admitted it out of his own mouth that he didn't think Harald could possibly be stopped. He is that far ahead of everyone else rn in accomplishments.

 

[Xione]

Imu and Jarul's narrative also support this, dude is centered in the middle of the mural towering like a giant arse dragon

Bruh i ain't gone lie, im not even sure what the Mural set up is right now.

Left side is showing a giant battle, in which Shirahoshi and Loki stand out pretty clear as the Giant figure and the mermaid monarch figures.

Right side of the mural is a whole different scene, where the fire of the two giant entities has what looks to be a form of Maxim Arc. In that event I think it could just be a different drawing of Imu, with the tree being the sun tree Eve, which goes directly up to Mariejois.

Some people think it's about the void century, then some think it's divided into the 3 worlds.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

I believe the title "island of the strongest" is not referring about Kaido, but referring to who that skull was in the past