Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

[park_min young]

I mean we never know, I saw a theory about the OG devil fruit tree somewhere. That might not be Elbaf.

 

[Zoroe]

Idk what is this shit, but definitely not a dragon lmao.

Kinda look like toad for me lmao

you forgot about the tail

 

[CbShadow]

If it´s literally just hearsay based on centuries ago, we can only go off of what we heard. Oda is giving us these statements intentionally, and it´s obviously implied that Dragons literally just used to exist in the story.

Here you go. They called Kaido, the dragon king.

That supports the idea the dragon Ryuma defeated could have been a DF user.

We know that Ragnir has guarded the fruit for generations, which obviously means centuries in the context of the giants, and obviously implies that it was last eaten around the void century or earlier.

But again, I´ll bet my account, no, Ryuma did not kill a user of Loki´s fruit. That would be pointless and make no sense.

Elbaf giants in the past traveled the world to conquer and plunder. There's nothing to say they didn't make their way to Wano at one time.

I've always wondered how the giant skull with the horns, on Onigashima, got there. Was that an ancient giant from the past that attacked Wano? Maybe, maybe not. At this time we don't know. It's interesting Oda placed it in Wano just for us to later learn ancient giants had horns.

 

[sanjikun]

Hybrid Loki's attack should easily scale above bajrung gun yes. I mean base loki with ragnir perma killed HK harald which was an impossible feat. Dodger pirates could never perma kill a HK before.

Lmfao. Bro give it a fucking rest. All Loki and Harald proved is they were above Gaban's retired ass. Shanks was not in his prime.

 

[Hako Sama]

Can we trust a silhouette from Loda they can be so misleading he can also change his mind retcon something different as well

No

 

[NotTommy]

Sommers is pretty great personality-wise but I hope we can see him be intimidating against more capable foes. Probably the Holy Knight that's gotten the most reaction from me.

Loki's just tremendous. Absolutely bonkers in strength and scale. Can't wait to see how well he does this arc. Just wow.

Killingham was at least shown, hope we see him get involved more. His MMAs are great given so many characters have faced them, but I want to see him involved in the action.

Overall, for a chapter where not as much happened as I would like, quite good. Hope the pace picks up, it feels like Oda could accomplish quite a bit more than he is right now. Loki's fruit name reveal would be nice and I guess we should be seeing more of Imu.

 

[centurion]

I want see a comparison of Loki and Adam tree in the next chapter

Here you go

You can thank me later

 

[Dragon777]

Yeah, fair. If you enjoy it´s cool, but for me I think I´m just a bit over mythical zoans

Imo the best DFs in OP, are paramecias used with creativity,Doffy, Cracker, King Kuri. At least usually, so personally, I like Sommers and Gunkos powers a bit more as of rn, and even Killingham has a pretty creative and cool power imo.

When managed correctly, paramecia are great. Super creative.

I miss some very good paramecia.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

1) Hypothetical Serpent of Hell Flames
2) Thriller Bark shadow
3) Zunesha
4) Loki Dragon form
5) The biggest Sea Kings

I will remove pizarro because technically we don't know his limit of island possession. I will also discount the thriller bark shadow. We don't even know if they are real beings or not.

 

[CbShadow]

Why do we have to prove the Dragon Ryuma slayed isn't the Elbaf fruit? Lol. You can't just pull shit out of your ass and give us the burden of proving otherwise. Stop leeching off other characters.

I'm not pulling anything on my ass. I'm simply reading the story.

Wano calls Kaido the dragon king.

 

[SakazOuki]

So whats your verdict for this Woki chapter?

Oda is a clown who can’t draw western dragons
He’s fkin huge though so that helps
In mythology Thor was the one to slay Jormungandr with his hammer
I think that’s his role in the final war, kill the red line

 

[Dragon777]

The figure to the left has horns as well.

But not the same form or location.

 

[Djordje]

Lmfao. Bro give it a fucking rest. All Loki and Harald proved is they were above Gaban's retired ass. Shanks was not in his prime.

And manga only said Shanks captured Loki never said he was stronger than him. Queen captured Big Mom yet no one claimed he was stronger than her.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Lmfao. Bro give it a fucking rest. All Loki and Harald proved is they were above Gaban's retired ass. Shanks was not in his prime.

? Prime roger pirates fought HKs countless of times lol. Did you forget that? Prime roger + ray + gaban failed to kill Hks. Imu was shook because it was an unprecedented feat. Hks were going again and again to retrieve baby shanks.

 

[Dragon777]

Oda destroyed the hype of Pirate King and you think Loki is safe?

Loki is in the big game of OP history

Roger, all things considered, wasn't.

 

[soupongo]

Lmfao. Bro give it a fucking rest. All Loki and Harald proved is they were above Gaban's retired ass. Shanks was not in his prime.

Harald already proved his strength earlier in the flashback, actually read it next time. He´s portrayed as Rocks D Xebecs equal, who the government believed could have potentially stopped him. Gaban was borderline in his prime, he clearly looks different then he does as an explicitly old retired character.... and with help, he could do nothing to stop Harald, with Loki explicitly out preforming both of them and amazing Gaban, a character who saw all the strongest in the world before. And are we going to ignore Imu, literally shook at what Loki accomplished, lmfao?

Loki is very much stronger than Roger and Rocks, that´s literally what the flashback was all about. Loki went from looking up to the legends of piracy, only to surpass them and do what they couldn´t.

 

[CbShadow]

Yeah stop coping Elbaf has never allied themselves with the world government up until Harald and imu didn’t know something like Lokis devil fruit even existed

The theory sucks it’s trash.

When did I say anything about Eblaf allying themselves with the WG? The manga told us they used to travel the world to conquer and plunder in the past. Don't change my post for your headcannon.

 

[Jackteo]

New emote when

@kekaro @TheAncientCenturion @Jackteo @soupongo

There are like 3+ Sommers panel which are emote material in this chapter alone. A Sommers' emote category might be needed by the end of Elbaf

 

[Zoroe]

World ending disaster

Loki's claim about destroying the world was not a joke lol

 

[TheD.]

When did I say anything about Eblaf allying themselves with the WG? The manga told us they used to travel the world to conquer and plunder in the past. Don't change my post for your headcannon.

It’s not headcannon you idiot

the world government send a dragon to wano and we know elbaf has never allied themselves with the world government ever besides Harald so your theory gets debunked.

cry about it