Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1174: THE STRONGEST BEING IN THIS WORLD

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What are the chances Oda is one of the redacted names in the Epstein files? Someone put a stop to this man.

This mangaka is beyond washed, someone needs to take over the art at the very least for him, a 5 year old can draw the last few pages. It starts snowing/raining thunder and that's the best panel he could come up with? Don't even get me started on that goofy ass silhouette of a design for Loki.

Looks like toei is gonna have to save his ass again.
Have you read HxH?
 
I don't see why BB would want loki DF .
Being huge is disadvantage most of the time .
Plus if loki even try come near BB in that he get taken out of that form so fast it would be funny .
It gives a massive degree of AoE and raw physical power, plus Rocks wanted it. Hybrid might also fix the size issue.

But for Loki's sake I hope Teach agrees with you lol.
 
“Strongest Being” is the exact thing oda already called mothers. As a mother is the strongest being in the world.

It’s not ambiguous what oda named the chapter after.
Wrong

Because Oda chose to write "mono" in hiragana instead of specifying a kanji, the title could be intentionally ambiguous. It can be interpreted as referring to either the strongest “thing” or the strongest “person/being” in the world—but personally, I think it's the latter because of what we saw at the end of the chapter.
- a fluent Japanese translator

I don’t think you know enough Japanese to argue otherwise so im gonna go based off of what he said
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I still don't know why Oda refuses to take in other artists who assists him.
Blud drew a cow with wings, painted it black, and thought we wouldn't notice. He got too comfortable drawing Killingham's monsters and gave Loki the same treatment.

Look at this panel:


You can feel how devastating it is, and the sheer scale of the destruction.

What the actual mickey mouse shit is this?

Are we fucking serious right now?

Oda is beyond washed at every facet of making a manga, it's official. There isn't a single thing he does that is passable...we're cooked.
 
Thats what I was saying in the spoiler thread and like 5 people pounced on me for the idea lol

Not that it HAS to be true, but given how many times Elbaph has referenced it, including Loki himself, makes me think its very possible in the least that Loki's fruit is part of the Sun God legend.

Like Jarul doesnt say "And the Sun God and ___ God or Hell Serpent descends". He says only one God, which either implies Loki is part of it or Loki is none of the Gods to begin with.

The Harley names other Gods in its text, and yet it doesnt name anything but the Sun God here.
And about the "liberator and destroyer", this chapter do make it sounds as if the "Sun God" was composed of two parts :DeepThink:.
Loki has nothing to do with the Sun God, lol. His just the Sun Gods pet and chauffeur.

We're gonna see the "destroyer" aspect in this arc, when Luffy turns black and becomes the "destroyer" against Imu as his next powerup.
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Nowhere it is stated the strongest title is referring to mothers. It is definitely referring to woki :BigW:
It's referring to the Sun God, not his pet lizard.
:BigW:
 
It gives a massive degree of AoE and raw physical power, plus Rocks wanted it. Hybrid might also fix the size issue.

But for Loki's sake I hope Teach agrees with you lol.
BB can already do massive AOE damage with both his DF .
It just Oda don't really show him off and off screen everything lol .
Remember that black hole can suck in everything and gura gura can cause massive AoE but not want destroy where you fighting lol
I love BB but i think people see him fight sloppy and look down on him.
The man is beast with 2 broken as DFs.
 
Blud drew a cow with wings, painted it black, and thought we wouldn't notice. He got too comfortable drawing Killingham's monsters and gave Loki the same treatment.

Look at this panel:


You can feel how devastating it is, and the sheer scale of the destruction.

What the actual mickey mouse shit is this?

Are we fucking serious right now?

Oda is beyond washed at every facet of making a manga, it's official. There isn't a single thing he does that is passable...we're cooked.
Give it 10 years and you will able to generate your own manga
I for one will write bleach 2
 
BB can already do massive AOE damage with both his DF .
It just Oda don't really show him off and off screen everything lol .
Remember that black hole can suck in everything and gura gura can cause massive AoE but not want destroy where you fighting lol
I love BB but i think people see him fight sloppy and look down on him.
The man is beast with 2 broken as DFs.
Blackbeard copers still celebrating the 2 DF cope?

Elbafs Yamato who is very soon going to get hype-tooled by GunkImu has 2 Mythical Zoan devil fruits, 1 of which is more legendary and powerful then Bepo Victims best + race/genetic buffs + bloodline buffs + probably Kaidos haki at minimum.

Having 2 DF's doesn't mean squat anymore. :gokulaugh:
 
Blud drew a cow with wings, painted it black, and thought we wouldn't notice. He got too comfortable drawing Killingham's monsters and gave Loki the same treatment.

Look at this panel:


You can feel how devastating it is, and the sheer scale of the destruction.

What the actual mickey mouse shit is this?

Are we fucking serious right now?

Oda is beyond washed at every facet of making a manga, it's official. There isn't a single thing he does that is passable...we're cooked.
That elbaf panel is to show the chaos of luffy going into G5 it has nothing to with showing destruction.
Everything on ground is moving and even monster getting effected .
We have been seeing how much destruction and chaos the MMA have cause since the came into the arc already.
 
Give it 10 years and you will able to generate your own manga
I for one will write bleach 2
Unironically one of the AI related things I'm looking forward to.

Slop is bad, but if it gets really good, many people will be able to make original creative projects and accurate adaptations without studio interference, time constraints or other concerns.

That is assuming everything goes well (hopefully it will).
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
uh, you are supposed to turn off your brain and consoom
:risistare: why are you like this? Goda-sensei wouldn't like it
Look at this dweeb below 😂

That elbaf panel is to show the chaos of luffy going into G5 it has nothing to with showing destruction.
Everything on ground is moving .
We have been seeing how much destruction and chaos the MMA have cause since the came into the arc .
 
Man I would celebrate if Oda started using AI, those AI generated One Piece panels are infinitely better than his current art.
I would celebrate if Oda was replaced by a rookie mangaka

Even they know the basic understanding of paneling and writing.
Instead of creating and focusing on bunch of fodder characters by bloating the arc and refusing to give that screentime to characters that actually matter, they could easily condense whole arc into 30 chapters and be able to tell for more coherent story with far more development and far more fights.
Not to mention it would take them only 3 panels to explain whole power system instead of this fuckass hack.


Let's just hope Oda continues to smoke.
 
Blackbeard copers still celebrating the 2 DF cope?

Elbafs Yamato who is very soon going to get hype-tooled by GunkImu has 2 Mythical Zoan devil fruits, 1 of which is more legendary and powerful then Bepo Victims best + race/genetic buffs + bloodline buffs + probably Kaidos haki at minimum.

Having 2 DF's doesn't mean squat anymore. :gokulaugh:
Why are you as a Luffy fan doubting Loki? Wouldn’t it be smart to pair them together?
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I would celebrate if Oda was replaced by a rookie mangaka

Even they know the basic understanding of paneling and writing.
Instead of creating and focusing on bunch of fodder characters by bloating the arc and refusing to give that screentime to characters that actually matter, they could easily condense whole arc into 30 chapters and be able to tell for more coherent story with far more development and far more fights.
Not to mention it would take them only 3 panels to explain whole power system instead of this fuckass hack.


Let's just hope Oda continues to smoke.
What happened to Oda? How was he able to create pre timeskip One Piece? Because most of what you're saying he already had that preskip. I'm starting to doubt he ever did that.

I get he's older and it's a lack of effort + he still cashes out.
 
Unironically one of the AI related things I'm looking forward to.

Slop is bad, but if it gets really good, many people will be able to make original creative projects and accurate adaptations without studio interference, time constraints or other concerns.

That is assuming everything goes well (hopefully it will).
Obviously im just waffling but it was quite sincere
I have a friend that working in that field and he already showed me stuff where you draw naruto characters in kubos artstyle and stuff like that and its quite convincing like I couldn't tell it's ai, but you need to do know what you doing thats why alot of the ai slop art is bad cause it for mass consumers and tech illiterate people.

That stuff is already kinda in Hollywood movies disney keeps 3d printing and ai voice synthesing old dead actors cause they obviously have way more SOTA tech and budget kinda spooky too
 
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