Powers & Abilities What is Roger´s greatest individual fighting feat ?

Djordje

Djordje

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Ok so we are far into one piece manga and unlike 15 years ago we now know what truly becoming king of pirates meant. World greatest explorer , who together with his crew ( after borrowing translator from Whitebeard ) found last island on grand line and was given symbolic title of pirate king by WG or Morgan news ( dont remember which one gave him that title ).

Manga moved beyond becoming pirate king which became just a side quest before taking on WG and Imu. Xebec ended up being what everyone expected Roger to be , outshining him as character disappointing many fans worldwide.

Now with better insight of what pirate king was about and looking into actual feats what is Roger best individual feat , something he did without his crew or help from Garp. Guy who could only fight to a tie Shiki or Whitebeard a mere underlings of Xebec . To make it worse he was never even portrayed as Xebec equal that role was given to Harald.

What is pushing some clouds on small ass island when clashing with WB his greatest feat ???

Are his fans desperate that much, that they do thickness scaling of Acoc lightning to claim his superiority over other characters ? :suresure::suresure:

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Tyki_Mikk

Tyki_Mikk

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I thought GV could give a clear view into Roger, I like his new portrayal(even thought I hated the Shakky part), how he acted as character wasn´t bad(like how he tried to save Xebec)..

However when it come to his fightstyle and what moves he has, I feel like even Oda doesn´t know it.
People always praised him as the greatest one, Kaido said he could done everything.

Yet on GV he was looking far weaker than Shanks as example.
His haki was matched by Whitebeard who never even used his df, his fightstyle is boring and open up the question, what he even has a power rather to swing his sword? I like how he moved against Xebec but that was it, the plain haki fightstyle without any good move looks awful, his final move was looking worse than Shanks divine attack against Kid lmao...

The fact he has no aura or getting portrayal different, i mean this guy had so many equals, it was awful.
Given how Oda threated Whitebeard in Marineford(legend with insane feats while in old age) or how other mangaka threat their legends, Roger so far is pure disappointed even thought everyone hyped him and him being the pirateking without any devilfruit...
 
Zoinks52

Zoinks52

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Bitchslapping Oden was pretty funny.

Beating DR Xebec was impressive even though it was a combo move.

Outside of that, he should have at least one or two offscreen Ws over Garp and vice versa since they allegedly nearly killed each other?

In EH's GV flashback he seemingly left an impact on Kaido as the latter seemingly wanted to seek him out.
 
Yoho

Yoho

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Does he really have one?

He and Garp have nearly killed each other on numerous occasions but none of those fights are ever shown

WB was constantly portrayed as the only man capable of going toe to toe with Roger but we all know that was a crock of shit since Garp and Roger nearly killed each other and once again we never saw them fight outside a few clashes

Roger vs Shiki was more about a battle of man power than individual strength and that battle was disrupted by a storm

Then finally the only fight we actually got was Roger vs Xebec but wait it was Roger and Garp vs Xebec even then that was barely a fight
 
BoaHancocksHusband

BoaHancocksHusband

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Djordje said:
Ok so we are far into one piece manga and unlike 15 years ago we now know what truly becoming king of pirates meant. World greatest explorer , who together with his crew ( after borrowing translator from Whitebeard ) found last island on grand line and was given symbolic title of pirate king by WG or Morgan news ( dont remember which one gave him that title ).

Manga moved beyond becoming pirate king which became just a side quest before taking on WG and Imu. Xebec ended up being what everyone expected Roger to be , outshining him as character disappointing many fans worldwide.

Now with better insight of what pirate king was about and looking into actual feats what is Roger best individual feat , something he did without his crew or help from Garp. Guy who could only fight to a tie Shiki or Whitebeard a mere underlings of Xebec . To make it worse he was never even portrayed as Xebec equal that role was given to Harald.

What is pushing some clouds on small ass island when clashing with WB his greatest feat ???

Are his fans desperate that much, that they do thickness scaling of Acoc lightning to claim his superiority over other characters ? :suresure::suresure:

Discuss

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No Devil Fruit.
still King.
helped defeat Rox
Slashed at Imu in the team attack
Realized something was different with Rox.
Got highest Bounty.
good at diplomacy and talked with Garp.
ushered the Great Pirate Era.
Has a Supreme Grade Blade.
Strongest Pirate Crew.
Gathered the Poneglyphs.
Found the One Piece.
 
Blahmigooo

Blahmigooo

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Fighting WB for 3 days
Stand toe to toe with Garp
Survive Shiki and his fleet
Sending rookie Oden flying
Barely beat Dr Xebec with Garp

Those were his "fighting feats"
Sending Oden flying might be the best feat he got as all other feats are not him being the dominant one.
So by his fighting feats, basically Roger was nothing but somebody that can stand toe to toe and could rivals with other top tiers of his generation.
Not anything beyond that.

The hype about him being the undisputed top 1 and being overwhelmingly stronger than other top tiers is a myth created by kids when they started watching one piece for few eps/years and this spread through generation and will not stop.
 
Djordje

Djordje

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BoaHancocksHusband said:
No Devil Fruit.
still King.
helped defeat Rox
Slashed at Imu in the team attack
Realized something was different with Rox.
Got highest Bounty.
good at diplomacy and talked with Garp.
ushered the Great Pirate Era.
Has a Supreme Grade Blade.
Strongest Pirate Crew.
Gathered the Poneglyphs.
Found the One Piece.
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What feats he has for me to actually put him above like Mihawk or Kaido.
 
Xione

Xione

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Djordje said:
What feats he has for me to actually put him above like Mihawk or Kaido.
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What feats put Mihawk above Old Whitebeard? Cutting an iceberg? Failing to kill Luffy despite "trying his hardest"??
What's Kaido's?? Getting his ass kicked by a dude who was shitting himself from Kizaru the next arc? Not being able to kill a weakling like Kinemon? Not being able to put down a malnourished woman like Yamato?

If you're using this corny logic, which is basically pandering to ignorance of the reader, apply it to the others as well.
 
Djordje

Djordje

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Xione said:
What feats put Mihawk above Old Whitebeard? Cutting an iceberg? Failing to kill Luffy despite "trying his hardest"??
What's Kaido's?? Getting his ass kicked by a dude who was shitting himself from Kizaru the next arc? Not being able to kill a weakling like Kinemon? Not being able to put down a malnourished woman like Yamato?

If you're using this corny logic, which is basically pandering to ignorance of the reader, apply it to the others as well.
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So you have no feats to put Roger above likes of Kaido - Mihawk.

Concession accepted.
 
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