Powers & Abilities What is Roger´s greatest individual fighting feat ?

#63
seeing admiral fans trying to slide them into the conversation repeatedly with average feats against fighting old legends or stamina struggling opponents like they don’t cap below god tiers pk tiers and around the same lvl as yonkos or below 😆.

The power creep happened in elbaf not egghead stop yapping about pizzaru and desk sitter, dummies really think yonkos got powercrept and not admirals of all groups who rookie xbec just offscreen who shanks Wi-Fi diff in wano be fr
:wellwell:
 
#66
Let's not forget that Roger, at the end of God Valley was lying down after the fight with Dr Xebec. In comparison, the invincible Katakuri was born sitting up. And again, what is his answer to future sight?
 
#67
Zoro is over King, because he beat King. Given that we don't know how his body works, that's a really dumb excuse. He obviously didn't lose intentionally.

Luffy was beaten by Kaido low diff twice on Onigashima. Without help from allies such as Zoro, Yamato, and the Scabbards, who all drew blood, without literally by saved by Polar Tang, etc... the best you can give Luffy is Gear 5 but that dogshit stamina wouldn't hold up. Dude was gassed by fighting Lucci in the next arc lol. He got helped by Kizaru of all people. Luffy almost never wins by being stronger, you must not be paying attention.
Don’t know what these paper cut glazers yapping about 100 hp Kizaru lasted 5 mins against 1 round of stamina induced luffy in a 1v1 and got one tapped after landing 3 attacks that did nothing.

Kaido took on two back to back round of g5 bested luffy in both encounters and forced him to use one of the strongest moves in the verse all while already weakened pre g5 fight.
Luffy 5min stamina isn’t putting down full heathy kaido. And powercrept kaido kills kizaru.
 
#68
I mean tbf to the overgrown lizard, his plan didn't stop at just Gifters. The ultimate plan was to get the Ancient Weapons through getting the One Piece. That's why even when he allied with Big Mom, they were going to turn Wano into an entire island of a massive weapons producing factory, to then go after the One Piece and get the Ancient Weapons, which they then would've used against the WG. Same with Big Mamu, her OG plan was get Elbaf on her side, get one piece to get the Ancient Weapons.
Hm, I might make a thread about this.
 
#69
Confirmed (also should be noted no bad blood vs Garp or WB so likely not max level)
- Drawing against Garp (Prime Level ≈ Fleet Admiral. So around 5B give or take)
- Drawing against WB (Prime Level ≈ Fleet Admiral. Bounty 5.046B)
- Defeating/Chasing off Holy Knights
- 2vs1 DR Xebec (Prime Level ≈ Pirate King even without DR)
- Defeating Shiki
- Swerving Big Mom, just took what he wanted

Perhaps
- (Most likely) defeating/chasing off one or more Gorosei
- (Possible) Imu confrontation and living to tell the tale

I mean, Roger could only defeat whoever was in front of him during his time. The only guy/being above DR Xebec was likely Imu, not sure any of the Gorosei was above. Garp was hidden FA (Sengoku most likely a bit weaker and Kong seems like a fraud). WB was PK-level that chose to not claim the title. Kaido was young and relatively weak. There was no Akainu/Dragon/Mihawk/Shanks/BB/Luffy yet.
 
#70
It's so bad that somebody need to talk shit/downscale other top tier performance and feats inorder to make Roger feats look OK at best rofl..
Not what i expected from the undisputed top 1 who "shows" to be clear cut above everyone.
 
#71
The cope I was talking about.

From one of the biggest agenda dorks on the website.

No, you dickhead, Oda did not change his mind.
There is no cope from his side only idiots like you still stuck at Marineford powerscaling with braindead takes like Roger = pinnacle of power or 1 Yonko > 3 admirals.

Highly recommended to read part 2 of manga after time skip , unlike for you actual manga did not stop at Marineford .
 

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Lazy is the way
#77
I think no one have them above(except the Zoro and Mihawk fans), but people start to place Mihawk or Kaido around that lvl and to be honest they have a point.

Roger>Kaido/Mihawk
But the gap is not huge as people think it was before.
It’s the same for any other legend of his time or modern times

Roger > everyone

but yeah the margin for some of them isn’t huge at all
Yet in the end he can floor them all
 
#78
It’s the same for any other legend of his time or modern times

Roger > everyone

but yeah the margin for some of them isn’t huge at all
Yet in the end he can floor them all
I will wait for Shanks performance too.
Since I feel GV Roger is different to Prime Roger if Shanks magically showing stuff with haki, we never seen with Roger battle...
 
#79
Imagine Mihawk or Kaido being stronger than Roger :Rofl:

I don't see Roger mastering Haki to that point he turned his blade into black or being WSS of his generation. His copy version Shanks is already inferior swordsman to Mihawk.

We scaled Roger above others because his title of pirate King which we now know is not about individual strength.

He stalemated Garp, Whitebeard, Shiki. 2 of them Xebec underlings inferior to their captain.

And in no point in manga Roger was called equal to or showed clashing equally with Xebec that role was given to Harald.

If you still expect that Haki alone can make you pinnacle of power in one piece manga without having broken devil fruit , then my friend you have been reading wrong manga.
 
#80
He "died" because of Kaido.
Yes, and the effects of that were still there when he came back.

Which is my point, essentially. If Kaido was weakened from prior fights, Luffy was weakened from Kaido beating him deader than dirt.

I've seen people suggest that they could have but didn't because of "balance" except they picked a fight with Whitebeard. I don't think the Marines would have backed down from fighting Shanks at Marineford if they didn't have substantial loss from that, either.
My understanding of MF was that it was never about WB, it was about Ace.

They wanted him publically executed after being revealed as Roger's son to demoralise the up and coming pirates as well as take care of a threat.



WB was never the main priority.

As for Shanks, Sengoku explicitly says "since it's you, red hair" that he'll stop the war. Again I guess it's a matter of whether they want to fight Shanks or no, and if this guy is a CD descendent with importance to world balance, that's a good reason not to fight.

The Marines themselves were still in good condition, hell they'd been stomping so hard up to that point that Koby lost his marbles and started telling them to chill.

But he already clashed with Kaido. Oden aside, the chance to take out Kaido presented itself. You can say he was wise enough to save the trouble because he was definitely needed at Marineford, but my point is just that beating Kaido wasn't something he could just do.
Again it's a matter of whether he wants to.

Why exactly would Shanks want to kill Kaido aside from maybe the Oden thing? We also have no clue about their interactions either. Shanks' motivations also are a mystery atp.

And outside of their MF interaction, he couldn't exactly take on Kaido in a war. The latter seemingly had more potent armies and a stronghold in Wano.
 
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