General & Others Bounty Discussion and Speculation

[Cozy Sofa]

No chance imo.
Baseline bounty for Admirals is 3bil. Only non captains that have a chance of hitting that bench mark are Zoro & Sanji imo.

There is an easy way of giving Shiryu a 3+ bounty. In addition to everything he has accomplished (off screen + Marineford + feats vs Garp) he is the Ex-Head Jailer of Impel Down. He only lost against Magellan, a guy who in my opinion is equal to an admiral (but only on duty 4 hours a day due to his stomach issues).

2 shichibukai + one top 3 RA-commander (Crocodile, Jinbei & Ivankov) were all scared shitless of Magellan, they didn't even want to fight him together. Shiryu also kept honest around Magellan, and we know how Magellan low diffed Luffy and BB.

So if BB pirates destroy Impel Down and Shiryu can defeat Magellan (best make it a fight outside of Impel Down because you really want space vs him and not a confined area) then I'd say it would make him worthy of a 3.1/3.2 bounty.

 

[BestGen]

There is an easy way of giving Shiryu a 3+ bounty. In addition to everything he has accomplished (off screen + Marineford + feats vs Garp) he is the Ex-Head Jailer of Impel Down. He only lost against Magellan, a guy who in my opinion is equal to an admiral (but only on duty 4 hours a day due to his stomach issues).

2 shichibukai + one top 3 RA-commander (Crocodile, Jinbei & Ivankov) were all scared shitless of Magellan, they didn't even want to fight him together. Shiryu also kept honest around Magellan, and we know how Magellan low diffed Luffy and BB.

So if BB pirates destroy Impel Down and Shiryu can defeat Magellan (best make it a fight outside of Impel Down because you really want space vs him and not a confined area) then I'd say it would make him worthy of a 3.1/3.2 bounty.

Copium
A bum like that won't touch 3
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Teach is final villain material.
And he will not be younku lvl same for his crew.
If king was almost 1.4 , and zolo soon will have another raise after elbaf 2b or 3b

Shiryou will be higher
And always 2nd are special
....
Base that and base this doesn't work here puck chan , cuz this gen gonna surpass everygen.

Shiryou will be higher than prime rayliegh

Low iq spawn area over here

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He only lost against Magellan, a guy who in my opinion is equal to an admiral

jesus lol

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Post Elbaf (Imu/WG in Panic due to what is happening at Mariejois and Elbaf)

• Luffy: 5.6b Official reason: Killed Vegapunk, Unofficial reason: Fighting off 5 Gorosei, Nika confirmed, defeating Kizaru, by association Summers, Killingham and Imu/Gunko directly. Also due to claiming Elbaf as his turf which not even Imu managed and turning Loki into his ally.
• Zoro: 3.2B Lucci feats, clashing vs Nusjuro, showcasing mastery of AdCoC which affects HK/Gorosei, taking down DR Giants incl. Dorry/Brogy by himself (D/B took themselves down by accident) Killingham/Summers
• Robin: 3B Whoever gets her is close to the OP
• Sanji: 2.066B Newly awakened AdCoC to take down Killingham/Summers, Germa 66
• Jinbei: 1.6 Flat 500+ for being SHP + senior role which also serves to put his bounty next to Hancock and close to Crocodile
• Usopp: 750M Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Franky: 644m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Brook: 633m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Nami: 466m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Chopper: 1m Still a joke
• Yamato: 0m joining post Elbaf but totally unknown the outside world, will soon rise HIGH same as Oden making the world fear/respect Wano again as unknown place of strong people

Shanks: 5.048B
- Stops hiding his strength. Prime Shanks is just ever so slightly past Prime WB. Recent feats 3B Admiral Greenbull, Supernova Bartolomeo, 3B Kid.
Teach: 4.96B
- He is ready for the throne. 3B Law + 3B Garp (by association)
Mihawk: 4.590B
- Stops hiding his strength. Takes out a 3B threat (Likely Sengoku, otherwise Fujitora or Greenbull)
Buggy: 4.189B
- CG Captain gets boost due to whatever Mihawk and Crocodile cook up + potential new recruits like Weevil or Doffy.
Kuzan: 4B
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Admiral. Puts him right between a FA and a regular Admiral.
Shiryu: 2.7
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Impel Down Head Jailer. Relative to Magellan who I would have at 3B.
Crocodile: 2.465
- CG will have done something, perhaps mastermind that broke out Weevil and Doffy

Dragon: 8B
- If the RA are the ones attacking Mariejois the Worlds most wanted man (the Floor is already 5.046) gets even more wanted, especially if he finally takes his Gloves off and himself does something ridiculous like actually killing a Gorosei, a feat only Imu has shown
Sabo: 5B
- The Flame Emperor, Dragons heir, Aces reincarneration, Luffys Brother. Already faced all Gorosei + Imu in Mariejois and lived to tell the tale. Escaped Lulusia.

 

[Hiragaro]

Post Elbaf (Imu/WG in Panic due to what is happening at Mariejois and Elbaf)

• Luffy: 5.6b Official reason: Killed Vegapunk, Unofficial reason: Fighting off 5 Gorosei, Nika confirmed, defeating Kizaru, by association Summers, Killingham and Imu/Gunko directly. Also due to claiming Elbaf as his turf which not even Imu managed and turning Loki into his ally.
• Zoro: 3.2B Lucci feats, clashing vs Nusjuro, showcasing mastery of AdCoC which affects HK/Gorosei, taking down DR Giants incl. Dorry/Brogy by himself (D/B took themselves down by accident) Killingham/Summers
• Robin: 3B Whoever gets her is close to the OP
• Sanji: 2B Newly awakened AdCoC to take down Killingham/Summers
• Jinbei: 1.6 Flat 500+ for being SHP + senior role which also serves to put his bounty next to Hancock and close to Crocodile
• Usopp: 750M Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Franky: 644m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Brook: 633m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Nami: 466m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Chopper: 1m Still a joke
• Yamato: 0m joining post Elbaf but totally unknown the outside world, will soon rise HIGH same as Oden making the world fear/respect Wano again as unknown place of strong people

Shanks: 5.048B
- Stops hiding his strength. Prime Shanks is just ever so slightly past Prime WB. Recent feats 3B Admiral Greenbull, Supernova Bartolomeo, 3B Kid.
Teach: 4.96B
- He is ready for the throne. 3B Law + 3B Garp (by association)
Mihawk: 4.590B
- Stops hiding his strength. Takes out a 3B threat (Likely Sengoku, otherwise Fujitora or Greenbull)
Buggy: 4.189B
- CG Captain gets boost due to whatever Mihawk and Crocodile cook up + potential new recruits like Weevil or Doffy.
Kuzan: 4B
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Admiral. Puts him right between a FA and a regular Admiral.
Shiryu: 2.7
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Impel Down Head Jailer. Relative to Magellan who I would have at 3B.
Crocodile: 2.465
- CG will have done something, perhaps mastermind that broke out Weevil and Doffy

Dragon: 8B
- If the RA are the ones attacking Mariejois the Worlds most wanted man (the Floor is already 5.046) gets even more wanted, especially if he finally takes his Gloves off and himself does something ridiculous like actually killing a Gorosei, a feat only Imu has shown
Sabo: 5B
- The Flame Emperor, Dragons heir, Aces reincarneration, Luffys Brother. Already faced all Gorosei + Imu in Mariejois and lived to tell the tale. Escaped Lulusia.

 

[Jackteo]

Sanji
Only Dead. 7.7 Billion
It is happening sooner or later

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Post Elbaf (Imu/WG in Panic due to what is happening at Mariejois and Elbaf)

• Luffy: 5.6b Official reason: Killed Vegapunk, Unofficial reason: Fighting off 5 Gorosei, Nika confirmed, defeating Kizaru, by association Summers, Killingham and Imu/Gunko directly. Also due to claiming Elbaf as his turf which not even Imu managed and turning Loki into his ally.
• Zoro: 3.2B Lucci feats, clashing vs Nusjuro, showcasing mastery of AdCoC which affects HK/Gorosei, taking down DR Giants incl. Dorry/Brogy by himself (D/B took themselves down by accident) Killingham/Summers
• Robin: 3B Whoever gets her is close to the OP
• Sanji: 2.066B Newly awakened AdCoC to take down Killingham/Summers, Germa 66
• Jinbei: 1.6 Flat 500+ for being SHP + senior role which also serves to put his bounty next to Hancock and close to Crocodile
• Usopp: 750M Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Franky: 644m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Brook: 633m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Nami: 466m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Chopper: 1m Still a joke
• Yamato: 0m joining post Elbaf but totally unknown the outside world, will soon rise HIGH same as Oden making the world fear/respect Wano again as unknown place of strong people

Shanks: 5.048B
- Stops hiding his strength. Prime Shanks is just ever so slightly past Prime WB. Recent feats 3B Admiral Greenbull, Supernova Bartolomeo, 3B Kid.
Teach: 4.96B
- He is ready for the throne. 3B Law + 3B Garp (by association)
Mihawk: 4.590B
- Stops hiding his strength. Takes out a 3B threat (Likely Sengoku, otherwise Fujitora or Greenbull)
Buggy: 4.189B
- CG Captain gets boost due to whatever Mihawk and Crocodile cook up + potential new recruits like Weevil or Doffy.
Kuzan: 4B
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Admiral. Puts him right between a FA and a regular Admiral.
Shiryu: 2.7
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Impel Down Head Jailer. Relative to Magellan who I would have at 3B.
Crocodile: 2.465
- CG will have done something, perhaps mastermind that broke out Weevil and Doffy

Dragon: 8B
- If the RA are the ones attacking Mariejois the Worlds most wanted man (the Floor is already 5.046) gets even more wanted, especially if he finally takes his Gloves off and himself does something ridiculous like actually killing a Gorosei, a feat only Imu has shown
Sabo: 5B
- The Flame Emperor, Dragons heir, Aces reincarneration, Luffys Brother. Already faced all Gorosei + Imu in Mariejois and lived to tell the tale. Escaped Lulusia.

What about woki?

 

[Cozy Sofa]

What about wok

Who? Loki?

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Who? Loki?

Yes

 

[RayanOO]

Yes

15 billions

 

[Raiden7]

Zoro: clashing with Nusjuro
Sanji: no mention of it, and it was an even better performance than Zoro

That's where I stopped reading that bullshit

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Yes

Hard to say but should be high. He is already capped at 2.6 and he is nerfed in this arc due to being chained for 6 years + all the injuries he sustained previously.

But I suspect his CoO grew 2-3 levels during his time in incarceration so he should be stronger than before (although injured). With Jaruls speech he is now also the undisputed new leader of the giants, a faction so strong that all top tiers believe they are enough to win them wars against whoever. Imu is also there to personally witness Lokis unknown DF and he will become an ally of Nika.

All in all his own strength + what else he brings to the table should land him 3.6 (conservative) - 4.6 (optimistic).

 

[Royal Kick]

4B for Luffy, 2B for the Wings, 1B for Robin. Usopp should reach 1B too, if Frauda cares to cook something big with him.

 

[Ricassian]

Post Elbaf (Imu/WG in Panic due to what is happening at Mariejois and Elbaf)

• Luffy: 5.6b Official reason: Killed Vegapunk, Unofficial reason: Fighting off 5 Gorosei, Nika confirmed, defeating Kizaru, by association Summers, Killingham and Imu/Gunko directly. Also due to claiming Elbaf as his turf which not even Imu managed and turning Loki into his ally.
• Zoro: 3.2B Lucci feats, clashing vs Nusjuro, showcasing mastery of AdCoC which affects HK/Gorosei, taking down DR Giants incl. Dorry/Brogy by himself (D/B took themselves down by accident) Killingham/Summers
• Robin: 3B Whoever gets her is close to the OP
• Sanji: 2.066B Newly awakened AdCoC to take down Killingham/Summers, Germa 66
• Jinbei: 1.6 Flat 500+ for being SHP + senior role which also serves to put his bounty next to Hancock and close to Crocodile
• Usopp: 750M Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Franky: 644m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Brook: 633m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Nami: 466m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Chopper: 1m Still a joke
• Yamato: 0m joining post Elbaf but totally unknown the outside world, will soon rise HIGH same as Oden making the world fear/respect Wano again as unknown place of strong people

Shanks: 5.048B
- Stops hiding his strength. Prime Shanks is just ever so slightly past Prime WB. Recent feats 3B Admiral Greenbull, Supernova Bartolomeo, 3B Kid.
Teach: 4.96B
- He is ready for the throne. 3B Law + 3B Garp (by association)
Mihawk: 4.590B
- Stops hiding his strength. Takes out a 3B threat (Likely Sengoku, otherwise Fujitora or Greenbull)
Buggy: 4.189B
- CG Captain gets boost due to whatever Mihawk and Crocodile cook up + potential new recruits like Weevil or Doffy.
Kuzan: 4B
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Admiral. Puts him right between a FA and a regular Admiral.
Shiryu: 2.7
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Impel Down Head Jailer. Relative to Magellan who I would have at 3B.
Crocodile: 2.465
- CG will have done something, perhaps mastermind that broke out Weevil and Doffy

Dragon: 8B
- If the RA are the ones attacking Mariejois the Worlds most wanted man (the Floor is already 5.046) gets even more wanted, especially if he finally takes his Gloves off and himself does something ridiculous like actually killing a Gorosei, a feat only Imu has shown
Sabo: 5B
- The Flame Emperor, Dragons heir, Aces reincarneration, Luffys Brother. Already faced all Gorosei + Imu in Mariejois and lived to tell the tale. Escaped Lulusia.

It's a good list, but I have a lower milestone for the main SHs. For example: I think Luffy's 5.6B is his final bounty (so not the next increase but the one that comes next), similar for Zoro (who I have at 3.690B as final bounty) and so on.

I can see the others, with some exceptions:
- Mihawk and Crocodile --> I doubt they'll have increases
- Dragon at 6B instead of 8, and Sabo at 3.5B for now

 

[Dragon777]

Post Elbaf (Imu/WG in Panic due to what is happening at Mariejois and Elbaf)

• Luffy: 5.6b Official reason: Killed Vegapunk, Unofficial reason: Fighting off 5 Gorosei, Nika confirmed, defeating Kizaru, by association Summers, Killingham and Imu/Gunko directly. Also due to claiming Elbaf as his turf which not even Imu managed and turning Loki into his ally.
• Zoro: 3.2B Lucci feats, clashing vs Nusjuro, showcasing mastery of AdCoC which affects HK/Gorosei, taking down DR Giants incl. Dorry/Brogy by himself (D/B took themselves down by accident) Killingham/Summers
• Robin: 3B Whoever gets her is close to the OP
• Sanji: 2.066B Newly awakened AdCoC to take down Killingham/Summers, Germa 66
• Jinbei: 1.6 Flat 500+ for being SHP + senior role which also serves to put his bounty next to Hancock and close to Crocodile
• Usopp: 750M Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Franky: 644m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Brook: 633m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Nami: 466m Flat 250+ for being SHP
• Chopper: 1m Still a joke
• Yamato: 0m joining post Elbaf but totally unknown the outside world, will soon rise HIGH same as Oden making the world fear/respect Wano again as unknown place of strong people

Shanks: 5.048B
- Stops hiding his strength. Prime Shanks is just ever so slightly past Prime WB. Recent feats 3B Admiral Greenbull, Supernova Bartolomeo, 3B Kid.
Teach: 4.96B
- He is ready for the throne. 3B Law + 3B Garp (by association)
Mihawk: 4.590B
- Stops hiding his strength. Takes out a 3B threat (Likely Sengoku, otherwise Fujitora or Greenbull)
Buggy: 4.189B
- CG Captain gets boost due to whatever Mihawk and Crocodile cook up + potential new recruits like Weevil or Doffy.
Kuzan: 4B
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Admiral. Puts him right between a FA and a regular Admiral.
Shiryu: 2.7
- For his part in defeating Garp + his knowledge as ex-Impel Down Head Jailer. Relative to Magellan who I would have at 3B.
Crocodile: 2.465
- CG will have done something, perhaps mastermind that broke out Weevil and Doffy

Dragon: 8B
- If the RA are the ones attacking Mariejois the Worlds most wanted man (the Floor is already 5.046) gets even more wanted, especially if he finally takes his Gloves off and himself does something ridiculous like actually killing a Gorosei, a feat only Imu has shown
Sabo: 5B
- The Flame Emperor, Dragons heir, Aces reincarneration, Luffys Brother. Already faced all Gorosei + Imu in Mariejois and lived to tell the tale. Escaped Lulusia.

Some takes I agree with here.
Kuzan 4B is a W take. I'm expecting the same for the reasons you said.

I don't think Luffy is getting a bounty higher than Roger before becoming PK though. And all the bounties of the SH are too high. For example, Zoro will at best have 2B now.

I don't think Mihawk or Crocodile are receiving any new bounties ever: they already have their Gorowase.
Same for Shanks: shortly he'll die so no need for any new bounty.

Teach will get 5B+, surpassing Xebec, when he kills Shanks + what Is happening to Marijoa + Garp.

When the CG does something, Buggy alone Is getting to 5B because of what happened.

Sabo Is going to have 3-3.5; Dragon 6.

 

[kekaro]

I don't think Mihawk or Crocodile are receiving any new bounties ever: they already have their Gorowase.
Same for Shanks: shortly he'll die so no need for any new bounty.

I mean its not foolproof but that was my thought as well
especially mihawks is too on the nose with the 359

 

[Dragon777]

I mean its not foolproof but that was my thought as well
especially mihawks is too on the nose with the 359

Yeah, I think the Goroawase bounties are 90% the final ones.

There are expection, like Buggy and Teach, but are going to be the absolute minority. Also, with Teach Oda is probably going to play using his Davy D. secret name and with Buggy It's possible he'll do the same. Or he'll just say "Buggy" since now the wordplay he used was about:

(ichiyaku) means "suddenly" or "overnight", which could refer to his sudden rise to power.

But that goes for everyone. When Kuzan get his own, likely using the Kuzan (クザン): Ku (9) + Za/San (3) = 93, It's going to be his final one. Same as the other members of the BBP.

And Buggy and Teach are going to have only one other bounty to bring them on the 5B level.