Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1176 Spoilers Discussion

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Brother....Smoker

-With a logia fruit
-with an iron weapon naturally stronger than a random bamboo stick
-AND HAKI to boot

Was portrayed below Vergo- A dfless man in the same tier as him- simply by having weaker armament than him. Do you understand? Df+weapon+haki, the characters you are referring to don't even have haki, Oda is the one who was emphasizing how important haki is.

Stop with the lame ass excuses. Fillerhats are just plot merchants so Oda is comfortable with whatever asspull victories he has in store for them with or without haki.
Oda also emphasize how you don't need haki to beat people who have when he first introduce it .
The manga has showed fights where yes haki matter and it has show fights where a person that has haki will still get there ass kick from a hakiless person .
It always been a mixture you talking about vergo fight don't matter when robin beat someone with haki and she don't have it and it in a later arc more the same with franky beat VA.
Which is what luffy did when haki first get introduce before your vergo match up beat people with haki when he did not have it .
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Oda also emphasize how you don't need haki to beat people who have when he first introduce it .
The manga has showed fights where yes haki matter and it has show fights where a person that has haki will still get there ass kick from a hakiless person .
It always been a mixture you talking about vergo fight don't matter when robin beat someone with haki and she don't have it and it in a later arc more the same with franky beat VA.
Which is what luffy did when haki first get introduce before your vergo match up beat people with haki when he did not have it .
Yea for the fillerhats, no non fillerhat or non MC will ever be given such privileges. We saw that firsthand with Law and Smoker. That's the point.
 
Oh, is that all Franky has to do to beat Vergo?
Okay.
The discussion is not Franky vs Vergo

”Law specifically has a fruit where he needs to have better Haki than his opponent, otherwise he gets clapped immediately.”
The same guy whose df attacks were said to be dangerous by Kaido and Meme
Can teleport
Can dice and control any object within a wide vicinity at will
Has been taught in all martial arts known to man, very intelligent fighter

Hakiless Law would low diff tobi roppo
If Franky lands on Roger he wins, the question is how.
 
I chastised ZenZu for giving that example as it's a very situational thing. Law specifically has a fruit where he needs to have better Haki than his opponent, otherwise he gets clapped immediately.
But give him something like the Quake fruit and he kills him in a few seconds.
Haki isn't *that* overpowered, it's just that a fruit like Law's would obviously need some type of limitation otherwise Law could just go around one shotting top tiers.
Nah law DF he does not need law to have better haki than the opponent once he reach certain level with his Df.
that is what the whole Df was about .
Radio Knife or his awakening skill haki don't matter .
You think law had better haki than BM when he fuck her up with Shock Wille .
Hell law was able to stop her from making noise so she could not call her homies to save her self .
None of that depend on how strong his haki is .
 
The discussion is not Franky vs Vergo

”Law specifically has a fruit where he needs to have better Haki than his opponent, otherwise he gets clapped immediately.”
The same guy whose df attacks were said to be dangerous by Kaido and Meme
Can teleport
Can dice and control any object within a wide vicinity at will
Has been taught in all martial arts known to man, very intelligent fighter

Hakiless Law would low diff tobi roppo
If Franky lands on Roger he wins, the question is how.
An Injection Shot from a far stronger Law, and an Awakened technique (PH Law didn't have Awakening), are what those two were hyping.
Again y'all chose Law vs Vergo because it's the perfect one to cherrypick due to how his fruit works. Give Law the Quake fruit or Strength fruit and he's mauling Vergo.
 
Nah law DF he does not need law to have better haki than the opponent once he reach certain level with his Df.
that is what the whole Df was about .
Radio Knife or his awakening skill haki don't matter .
You think law had better haki than BM when he fuck her up with Shock Wille .
Hell law was able to stop her from making noise so she could not call her homies to save her self .
None of that depend on how strong his haki is .
No I mean the severing and teleportation are dependant on Haki
That's why he couldn't teleport the Yonko but could use things like Injection Shot on them.
 
The discussion is not Franky vs Vergo

”Law specifically has a fruit where he needs to have better Haki than his opponent, otherwise he gets clapped immediately.”
The same guy whose df attacks were said to be dangerous by Kaido and Meme
Can teleport
Can dice and control any object within a wide vicinity at will
Has been taught in all martial arts known to man, very intelligent fighter

Hakiless Law would low diff tobi roppo
If Franky lands on Roger he wins, the question is how.
Agree .
Law need haki to help beat vergo because he was not that great at using his DF yet .
Current law would destroy don and vergo if he fight him them back in DR and PH with just pure DF skills and it's only been 2 months in world lol.
 
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