Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room

[Nekomamushi]

until something else happens.

Shamrock return.

 

[kekaro]

No

Yes
Nice day we having

 

[Zemlya]

Luffy is very mad seeing one of his Straw Hats lying down. Luffy basically lost it.

Fek they ate chopper

 

[Dragon777]

Saving Luffy is the only decent thing he did and that doesn’t help him as an antagonist. In the role of antagonist, he was sidelined for Saturn and treated as a lackey.

Sure, but there because he wasn't an antagonist in EH.

Or at least, Oda wanted him to do the bare minimum and playing the moral dilemma part.

Kaido has more than enough feats to show he keeps up with a faster Luffy, Kuzan was humiliated in his first real outing and at best can match an already weakening Garp

It doesn’t make him Prime Garp come again,it just makes him less useless since hax doesn’t work on most top tiers

Because Kaido had an entire fight.

Kuzan arrived, was said to be weavering, matched old Garp and Oda showed his strenght being on par with prime Garp + CoC. All that while barely using the fruit.

Plot wise sure, when it comes to being an antagonist or strong character? Not much

Ok, but as for Kizaru, Fuji has never been an antagonist.

 

[Paragorn]

Saving Luffy is the only decent thing he did and that doesn’t help him as an antagonist. In the role of antagonist, he was sidelined for Saturn and treated as a lackey.



Kaido has more than enough feats to show he keeps up with a faster Luffy, Kuzan was humiliated in his first real outing and at best can match an already weakening Garp

It doesn’t make him Prime Garp come again,it just makes him less useless since hax doesn’t work on most top tiers

Plot wise sure, when it comes to being an antagonist or strong character? Not much

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Dude they’re literally Aizens primary army??? They’ve always been linked and always will be.

Trying to separate them is really bad reading

lol…..

 

[Blackflamesanji]

pls don't tell me holy roppo is real

 

[Paragorn]

I've been telling Holy Knights are fodder clowns sice day 1 but noooo..........."they're clearly admiral level"

 

[Sir Yasheen]

lol…..

And yet who is more important in the long run? Gin and Kaname or Grimmjow and Szayelapporo?

 

[NikaInParis]

Imu: "Oh my God, they killed Killy! You bastards!"

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

pls don't tell me holy roppo is real

Holy Roppo is an insult to the Tobi Roppo at this point

 

[Devilbat]

pls don't tell me holy roppo is real

More like holy gifters

I mean, Ulti was awesome, she tanked BM's attack

 

[Sir Yasheen]

pls don't tell me holy roppo is real

Nah. They have been downgraded to Holy Numbers since they’re constantly getting one shot

 

[Devilbat]

Holy Roppo is an insult to the Tobi Roppo at this point

Ahahahahaha great minds think alike

If Imu does nothing again next chapter, this manga is cooked

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

And yet who is more important in the long run? Gin and Kaname or Grimmjow and Szayelapporo?

That’s not the discussion, you were trying to say Aizen’s relevance is connected to The Espada when that’s never the case.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

And yet who is more important in the long run? Gin and Kaname or Grimmjow and Szayelapporo?

Szayelapporo was the big bad of the one shot

 

[Welkin]

Any other author could’ve turned the Knights of God into iconic antagonists on par with Akatsuki, Phantom Troupe or the Espada. Minimum as good as the League of Villains

But of course we get Oda instead

No they couldn't have lol

The Knights of God were introduced in the Final Saga of One Piece

Let's see when the factions you mentioned were set up or introduced:

The Akatsuki were setup/introduced in Part 1

The Phantom Troupe were setup from the beginning and fully introduced in Yorknew City (early-midpoint of the series)

The Espada were introduced in Hueco Mundo which again is the middle point of the series

The League of Villains was something Horikoshi built to throughout the entire manga

The only comparison you could make are the Warlords or the Admirals. None of the factions you listed (or can name) were introduced near the end of the manga and hit the same highs

 

[kekaro]

No they couldn't have lol

The Knights of God were introduced in the Final Saga of One Piece

Let's see when the factions you mentioned were set up or introduced:

The Akatsuki were setup/introduced in Part 1

The Phantom Troupe were setup from the beginning and fully introduced in Yorknew City (early-midpoint of the series)

The Espada were introduced in Hueco Mundo which again is the middle point of the series

The League of Villains was something Horikoshi built to throughout the entire manga

The only comparison you could make are the Warlords or the Admirals. None of the factions you listed (or can name) were introduced near the end of the manga and hit the same highs

They even have the same tier meme as the akatsuki

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

e, but there because he wasn't an antagonist in EH.

Or at least, Oda wanted him to do the bare minimum and playing the moral dilemma part.

He was an antagonist in Egghead. The fact he saves Luffy doesn’t stop him from antagonizing Luffy the entire time he’s present in the arc. He’s complicated but complications doesn’t make him a protagonist.

Because Kaido had an entire fight.

Kuzan arrived, was said to be weavering, matched old Garp and Oda showed his strenght being on par with prime Garp + CoC. All that while barely using the fruit

Kuzan can waver all he wants, his reaction time is shit, he needed an entire island to back him up in the end to subdue one old guy.

Oda has not portrayed him as that strong and hasn’t given the admirals much if any respect

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

No they couldn't have lol

The Knights of God were introduced in the Final Saga of One Piece

Let's see when the factions you mentioned were set up or introduced:

The Akatsuki were setup/introduced in Part 1

The Phantom Troupe were setup from the beginning and fully introduced in Yorknew City (early-midpoint of the series)

The Espada were introduced in Hueco Mundo which again is the middle point of the series

The League of Villains was something Horikoshi built to throughout the entire manga

The only comparison you could make are the Warlords or the Admirals. None of the factions you listed (or can name) were introduced near the end of the manga and hit the same highs

The Shichibukai are not a big faction outside this manga lol? The knights of god would be iconic as Hell