Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1178 Spoilers Discussion

[Dragon777]

Loki has both lightning and a dragon body that dwarfs Kaido, that's not strictly comparing their lightning powers, especially given Loki's attack was amped with AoC. Awakened Goro Goro no Mi + equalized ACoC would have the highest lightning output. That's kinda the purpose of a Logia, you become the element itself.

Like, no one would argue that any fire-based side ability would match an awakened Mera Mera no Mi with equalized ACoC.

I agree overall, even though I get that God fruits are of another kind than any other. They are massively more powerful and Loki's in particular is literally the end of the world fruit.
Which fittingly has lightning powers, since those are of the most destructive kind. But yeah, Loki with the Awakened Goro Goro would have had an higher lightning output than now.

But I am totally convinced the Nidhogg has other powers too, other that size and lightnings.
As far as I am concerned, it has soul powers too.

 

[HeroesNZ]

Nah.

It would mean BB greatness.

Nah cos if Oda fails miserably with Imu then it's pretty much guaranteed he'll mess up Blackbeard and any future antagonists as well

 

[Dragon777]

Nah cos if Oda fails miserably with Imu then it's pretty much guaranteed he'll mess up Blackbeard and any future antagonists as well

If Imu fails, I suppose It's because he has to fall by BB's hands.

 

[TheD.]

You lack reading comprehension. We are comparing elemental output, not the character's power level. I don't know what "calculations" those are supposed to be. Raigou looked bigger. Yes, it was used with the Maxim, but 1) Maxim only produced thunderclouds that are absent in sky islands but are standard down in the blue seas and 2) what Maxim did might be what an awakened Goro Goro could be capable of (transforming the environment).

Not to mention Loki amped his attack with ACoC. Give an awakened Goro Goro no Mi to Shanks and look what output he can generate.

I understood everything you said

And yes I’m correct raigo was not as big as thorheim


This is the maxim next to Raigo

This is the maxim next to slightly above average sized human enel (humans can get well over 15 feet in one peice)

and this is Luffy next to 10 foot tall Kizaru in his giant form

So based off this the maxim is rightly the size of an ancient giant or giant sized Luffy

And this is maxim sized Luffy next to loki…

And then we get Lokis thorheim which is even bigger than him

so yes it’s not even a debate that the real “God” teir guy has way better elemental abilities than the self proclaimed god that didn’t even have haki.

Oh and btw this was a basic attack from loki which means if he really wanted to go all out his Blast breath could be much more potent and larger.

 

[pg13]

Interesting, Perhaps Greatness is pathway to unlocking Conquerors Haki , in which case that would open the door for pretty much every Strawhat. They are Mostly All Great at their individual professions. Just a Theory but very much on Brand for Oda to do. Elbaf could turn into an arc where the Strawhat Crew Conquerors.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

From one Loki wanker to another:

He speaks the truth tho

 

[ZenZu]

You just read full summary and call it a day

Nah I skip most of the summary. Most fillerhat or side character stuff is skipped immediately. The only fillerhat stuff I read is when it's agenda related.

I heard Usopp yelled at Imu. That's from users here, I have no idea what was said or how he looked because filler bores me at this stage.

 

[HA001]

I don't read this washed manga anymore for a reason, wouldn't surprise me.

Forest god > kizaru

 

[comrade]

I agree overall, even though I get that God fruits are of another kind than any other. They are massively more powerful and Loki's in particular is literally the end of the world fruit.
Which fittingly has lightning powers, since those are of the most destructive kind. But yeah, Loki with the Awakened Goro Goro would have an higher lighting output than now.

But I am totally convinced the Nidhogg has other powers too, other that size and lightnings.
As far as I am concerned, he has soul powers too.

I mean, technically "god fruits" are fan made terms. Nidhogg is a mythological creature just as much as Sengoku's buddha fruit which represents a godly deity. But both Sengoku and Luffy are still just models of the human human fruit. And sure, Nidhogg is overall stronger, but it doesn't mean it has to be stronger in every aspect.

I understood everything you said

And yes I’m correct raigo was not as big as thorheim


This is the maxim next to Raigo

This is the maxim next to average sized human enel

So based off this the maxim is rightly the size of an ancient giant or giant sized Luffy

And this is maxim sized Luffy next to loki…

And then we get Lokis thorheim which is even bigger than him

so yes it’s not even a debate that the real “God” teir guy has way better elemental abilities than the self proclaimed god that didn’t even have haki.

And and btw this was a basic attack from loki which means if he really wanted to go all out his Blast breath could be much more potent and larger.

Jup and that exact scaling is the reason Raigou is bigger. Giant Luffy is as tall as the maxim, but the Maxim is still much wider, or in other terms, has more volume. Even if you argue they are comparable, Loki amped his attack with ACoC and that Raigou is probably not even the max size Enel can go for.

 

[ZenZu]

Forest god > kizaru

Waramaki? We'll see...

 

[Crow]

Upon realizing that the HKs are bums, Imu might be going to join CG to be safe under buggy's banner

 

[Shiroyru]

It was fuled with ACoC given the black lightning and even then, Enel's second Raigou was larger (and probably not even the largest thing Enel could've cast). I would assume what Enel did with the Maxim is what his awakening could be capable off; producing thunderclouds ( = environmental change).

Give an awakened lightning Logia to a top tier ACoC user like Shanks and look what it can do.

I’d have to double check but I’m pretty sure Thrudheim was a lot larger than Raigo

 

[comrade]

Waramaki? We'll see...

Forest god of the black blade vs Surroundings must not become collateral of the man who defeated Kaido feeder.

 

[TheD.]

Jup and that exact scaling is the reason Raigou is bigger. Giant Luffy is as tall as the maxim, but the Maxim is still much wider, or in other terms, has more volume. Even if you argue they are comparable, Loki amped his attack with ACoC and that Raigou is probably not even the max size Enel can go for.

Just because it’s wider doesn’t mean much

it’s still comparable to giant Luffy which is easily the size of Lokis tooth


“Loki amped his attack with acoc”

and this is supposed to mean his attack was at its peak here? We know he held back as to not completely destroy elbaf and this was some blast breath lol.

And for your last argument

it’s not impossible but based off of calcs yes thorheim is bigger and it will remain that way maybe until enel comes back

so far now elemental ability wise loki>enel

Also loki has a bit better feat than thorheim that is larger than elbaf and that he did with a seastone chain on and while heavily attacked

 

[comrade]

I’d have to double check but I’m pretty sure Thrudheim was a lot larger than Raigo

A lot is stretching. At best you could say comparable. The question is, what could Shanks do if he fuses an awakened Goro's max lightning with his ACoC. Forget Enel who was unawakened and had no CoC at all.

 

[HA001]

Waramaki? We'll see...

Chopper

 

[TheD.]

Gunko and shamrock would’ve got low diffed

loki was not bluffing

One shotted an amped version of Gunko (with luffy)

but yeah I keep telling people there’s a reason Oda kept shamrocks ass out of elbaf,he would’ve ate his words and got hypetooled.

 

[sanjikun]

It's funny how Oda recycles arcs, villains and tropes. Even with Imu.

 

[MonsterZoro]

What the fuck is zoro w hint @Worstgenhq

 

[RyoQ]

Gunko and shamrock would’ve got low diffed

loki was not bluffing

One shotted an amped version of Gunko (with luffy)

but yeah I keep telling people there’s a reason Oda kept shamrocks ass out of elbaf,he would’ve ate his words and got hypetooled.

Goonko and her dumbass fruit that makes no actual sense