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Lmao nonsense
how many times they had said things that were in the ultra grey area ? That were borderline but just enough for them to escape being condemned ?
they are smart good for them, that doesn’t change the fact that they are antisemitic
and if you want to talk about court : a jour a list said that LFI was an antisemitic party, LFI sued, and LFI lost because it was shown that it was indeed true lol.
and there are still some other legal actions and trails in the waiting
You also missed an other important law no ?
- using « anti Zionist » to be freely antisemitic without any problèm. To target any Jew in the land and mix them with Israel or the war. They just hate Jew plain and simple
Most of the anti Zionist thing is hidden / not so hidden anti semitic shit
Loooool at LFI being social democrat
and lol at them being the most Republican Party
And honestly the economic part isn’t even the problèm. I disagree with them economically but if it was only that I wouldn’t have been much problem with LFI
and about Mitterand, he got elected with a left program in 1981 and had to change 2 years later because his economic pouliches were a mess.
Which u completely chose to omit ?
i didn’t remember that it was our debate to begin with
if you want to talk about RN and their false angel look we can no problèm
but when we are talking about LFI we are not forced to talk about RN or far right at the same time
LFI doesn’t need anyone to be demonized. They are doing a fine work by themselves
I had a problem with your easy answer
completely evading the discussion : he is against LFI, yeah it’s normal he is a Zionist
the new Godwin point of LFI
Now if you want to talk about tte war, about israel, its creation, its existence, its culture, Netanyahou, Israel politics
And mostly why its fuck ton more complicated then what you and all the « Anti Zionist » what to make us believe then no problem
how many times they had said things that were in the ultra grey area ? That were borderline but just enough for them to escape being condemned ?
they are smart good for them, that doesn’t change the fact that they are antisemitic
and if you want to talk about court : a jour a list said that LFI was an antisemitic party, LFI sued, and LFI lost because it was shown that it was indeed true lol.
and there are still some other legal actions and trails in the waiting
You also missed an other important law no ?
- using « anti Zionist » to be freely antisemitic without any problèm. To target any Jew in the land and mix them with Israel or the war. They just hate Jew plain and simple
Most of the anti Zionist thing is hidden / not so hidden anti semitic shit
Loooool at LFI being social democrat
and lol at them being the most Republican Party
And honestly the economic part isn’t even the problèm. I disagree with them economically but if it was only that I wouldn’t have been much problem with LFI
and about Mitterand, he got elected with a left program in 1981 and had to change 2 years later because his economic pouliches were a mess.
Which u completely chose to omit ?
i didn’t remember that it was our debate to begin with
if you want to talk about RN and their false angel look we can no problèm
but when we are talking about LFI we are not forced to talk about RN or far right at the same time
LFI doesn’t need anyone to be demonized. They are doing a fine work by themselves
I had a problem with your easy answer
completely evading the discussion : he is against LFI, yeah it’s normal he is a Zionist
the new Godwin point of LFI
Now if you want to talk about tte war, about israel, its creation, its existence, its culture, Netanyahou, Israel politics
And mostly why its fuck ton more complicated then what you and all the « Anti Zionist » what to make us believe then no problem
Lately Japanese and French ships passed, so I doubt Pakistan will make a lot of money if they consider that move lol
Check the picture I linked in my first post, Hormuz has no international waters since its so narrow, in fact it has an overlap between Oman and Iran's water. Still, international law is clear that ships should be able to transit for free.
Now, how willing will Iran be to abide by International law on maritime trade after the war? I don't know, but I doubt they'd be willing to jump back right in.
And as long as other countries are unwilling to open the strait by force, it seems likely that Iran will go forward to profit from Hormuz. Like I said, for other countries paying the extra dollar may be seen as the best option going forward since there is no going back.
Check the picture I linked in my first post, Hormuz has no international waters since its so narrow, in fact it has an overlap between Oman and Iran's water. Still, international law is clear that ships should be able to transit for free.
Now, how willing will Iran be to abide by International law on maritime trade after the war? I don't know, but I doubt they'd be willing to jump back right in.
And as long as other countries are unwilling to open the strait by force, it seems likely that Iran will go forward to profit from Hormuz. Like I said, for other countries paying the extra dollar may be seen as the best option going forward since there is no going back.
You don't get it. Mélenchon is a soc-dem. To the right of Mitterand who was really not that leftist. The guy talks about France like a colonist, really.. he is absolutely not far leftist. Just too leftist for the political paradigm at the moment since everyone displaced too far to the right.
Far leftist like me will not be magically happy if LFI get to power. This is something fundamental to understand.
This is what I mean when I say that AI is destroying our perception of reality
Go check mate ! It's absolute so freaking cool!
Basically, Artemis 2 is a mission of preparation for the future Lunar mission. 4 astronauts are currently going to the orbit of the moon to circle around (farther than any human has ever been before) to make the preparation for a mission in 2028, where human will put the foot back on the moon
Go check the launch, it was really something.
Cuba is not a paradise, these are hellscape that are currently being destroyuing by US blocuses. It would be a much better place to live without the US being dickheads.
If you don't understand racism, don't talk about racism. Really. You don't.
A problem with antizionism ? No. There is no "free antisemetism behind zionism". It's a moral panic created by the far right. There is antisemitism allright, but it's very open. And it usually comes from the far right.
I can say every horrible things I want about zionism (which is, as a reminder, a supremacist, fascist and racist ideology) and not even a single time have one shred of hatred for jews. Stop listening to mainstream media own by zionist and far rightists.
EVERY non-native israelian are colonist by sociopolitical-logic. There is no such thing as non colonist non-native Israelian. Just as a friendly reminder.
You are in full moral panic and you are not questionning everything (probably thinking that you are more rationnal, when in reality, you are not critically aware of the political and social situation of the conflict and LFI). This is very common with people considering that both extrems are bad, not understanding that one extrem wants people dead and the other want to stop them. The one+the center trying to trick you into thinking the second is worst because they have the same material interest : stayin rich and racist.
Read back what I said before. LFI IS social democrats. They are FAAR from being far leftist. You don't seem to know what it means.
Actually yes they do. LFI threatten directly the class interest of the rich and (it seems), people like you. They bring back the problem of the racism is society on the table and they create an economic rupture (very subtle yet present) who threatens the interest of the rich who got richer in the last 30 years.
Yes. Everyone who is not poor or marginalized has an interest in taking them down.
There is absolutely nothing complicated about this conflict.
Saying "it's complicated" is a common strategy to completely confuse any kind of discussion. The conflict is actually very easy to understand, very easy in term of geopolitical assets and very easy to fix or to fight at the condition that people with power help.
Anyone with an understanding of colonialism, white supremacy, racism, imperialism and appartheid, should perfectly be able to understand this conflict, even in the minus details.
If you don't, it's either that someone is trying to confuse your understanding, or you have biases or blind spot preventing you from looking directly at the reality of the conflict (and not just you, i'm talking to everyone here)
Far leftist like me will not be magically happy if LFI get to power. This is something fundamental to understand.
This is what I mean when I say that AI is destroying our perception of reality
Go check mate ! It's absolute so freaking cool!
Basically, Artemis 2 is a mission of preparation for the future Lunar mission. 4 astronauts are currently going to the orbit of the moon to circle around (farther than any human has ever been before) to make the preparation for a mission in 2028, where human will put the foot back on the moon
Go check the launch, it was really something.
Cuba is not a paradise, these are hellscape that are currently being destroyuing by US blocuses. It would be a much better place to live without the US being dickheads.
If you don't understand racism, don't talk about racism. Really. You don't.
A problem with antizionism ? No. There is no "free antisemetism behind zionism". It's a moral panic created by the far right. There is antisemitism allright, but it's very open. And it usually comes from the far right.
I can say every horrible things I want about zionism (which is, as a reminder, a supremacist, fascist and racist ideology) and not even a single time have one shred of hatred for jews. Stop listening to mainstream media own by zionist and far rightists.
EVERY non-native israelian are colonist by sociopolitical-logic. There is no such thing as non colonist non-native Israelian. Just as a friendly reminder.
You are in full moral panic and you are not questionning everything (probably thinking that you are more rationnal, when in reality, you are not critically aware of the political and social situation of the conflict and LFI). This is very common with people considering that both extrems are bad, not understanding that one extrem wants people dead and the other want to stop them. The one+the center trying to trick you into thinking the second is worst because they have the same material interest : stayin rich and racist.
Read back what I said before. LFI IS social democrats. They are FAAR from being far leftist. You don't seem to know what it means.
Actually yes they do. LFI threatten directly the class interest of the rich and (it seems), people like you. They bring back the problem of the racism is society on the table and they create an economic rupture (very subtle yet present) who threatens the interest of the rich who got richer in the last 30 years.
Yes. Everyone who is not poor or marginalized has an interest in taking them down.
There is absolutely nothing complicated about this conflict.
Saying "it's complicated" is a common strategy to completely confuse any kind of discussion. The conflict is actually very easy to understand, very easy in term of geopolitical assets and very easy to fix or to fight at the condition that people with power help.
Anyone with an understanding of colonialism, white supremacy, racism, imperialism and appartheid, should perfectly be able to understand this conflict, even in the minus details.
If you don't, it's either that someone is trying to confuse your understanding, or you have biases or blind spot preventing you from looking directly at the reality of the conflict (and not just you, i'm talking to everyone here)
Court ruled that freedom of speech allows you to call someone antisemitic even if court didn't condemn said person for antismitism.
Court didn't show that it was "indeed true". I have no idea where you get your sources but probably from Macronist news outlets or worse.
I'm talking about the "Yadan law" that confuses everything between anti-Jew and anti-Israel.
A law that prohibits connecting Zionist genociders to Nazi genociders. A law that you seem to be supporting.
Asking a Jew what they think about the genocide in Gaza isn't antisemitism for instance.
You're lol-ing a lot in your post but no argumentation. Liberals don't have the monopoly of republicanism.
LFI is neo-keynesian. It's close to Lula and very far from fucking Xi Jinping or Cuban revolution...
LFI isn't socialist. I'll wait that you can demonstrate this claim.
Hating LFI and saying RN looks good goes hand in hand in the political and media landscape.
That's why I said you chose to omit.
My point is that news outlets owned by billionaires hated LFI and praised RN for over a decade now.
These media are pushing Mélenchon vs Bardella for the 2nd round because they bet that they are more likely to win against the demonized left than against Edouard Philippe.
I guess that supporting Edouard Philippe who would rather rule with RN deputies rather than LFI deputies is so republican.
LFI is demonized compared to earlier in the last decades because it has grown its electoral support.
I want to talk about how you're denying a genocide by calling it a war. Don't need to go back to Theodor Herzl.
Not an "easy answer". I just know your history of posting and that zionists hate LFI.
It's also interesting how you acknowledge that this would be Godwin point. Paralleling nazis to zionists yourself. Maybe the Yadan law will condemn you too.
They may have had casualties in the saving operation btw. Apparently two US helicopters or more were shot down by Iran. This needs a clarification.
But saying "cucked by pacifist culture" especially when talking about the US makes you a middle-eastern cuck to be fair.
Be our guest and join the army to fight Iran then.
Court didn't show that it was "indeed true". I have no idea where you get your sources but probably from Macronist news outlets or worse.
I'm talking about the "Yadan law" that confuses everything between anti-Jew and anti-Israel.
A law that prohibits connecting Zionist genociders to Nazi genociders. A law that you seem to be supporting.
Asking a Jew what they think about the genocide in Gaza isn't antisemitism for instance.
You're lol-ing a lot in your post but no argumentation. Liberals don't have the monopoly of republicanism.
LFI is neo-keynesian. It's close to Lula and very far from fucking Xi Jinping or Cuban revolution...
LFI isn't socialist. I'll wait that you can demonstrate this claim.
Hating LFI and saying RN looks good goes hand in hand in the political and media landscape.
That's why I said you chose to omit.
My point is that news outlets owned by billionaires hated LFI and praised RN for over a decade now.
These media are pushing Mélenchon vs Bardella for the 2nd round because they bet that they are more likely to win against the demonized left than against Edouard Philippe.
I guess that supporting Edouard Philippe who would rather rule with RN deputies rather than LFI deputies is so republican.
LFI is demonized compared to earlier in the last decades because it has grown its electoral support.
I want to talk about how you're denying a genocide by calling it a war. Don't need to go back to Theodor Herzl.
Not an "easy answer". I just know your history of posting and that zionists hate LFI.
It's also interesting how you acknowledge that this would be Godwin point. Paralleling nazis to zionists yourself. Maybe the Yadan law will condemn you too.
They may have had casualties in the saving operation btw. Apparently two US helicopters or more were shot down by Iran. This needs a clarification.
But saying "cucked by pacifist culture" especially when talking about the US makes you a middle-eastern cuck to be fair.
Be our guest and join the army to fight Iran then.
Okay but I'm not in your head, I can't understand what you mean if it isn't written.
But economical sanctions doesn't always lead to air-bombing or droning.
But if you say that war is nowadays even more fragmented than before between sanctions to full scale war which has many steps but blurs the lines between peace and war. Then I agree.
But economical sanctions doesn't always lead to air-bombing or droning.
But if you say that war is nowadays even more fragmented than before between sanctions to full scale war which has many steps but blurs the lines between peace and war. Then I agree.
Nah
Alliances often struggle when it comes to passing policies without making leeway or appeasement for all parties involved which ends up diluting the policies and bills.
Policies need time to show results. Better to have one party govern for a term or two and then vote another if things aren't going well.
Infact, I would have preferred two terms of Trump or Biden back to back than Trump - Biden - Trump
Alliances often struggle when it comes to passing policies without making leeway or appeasement for all parties involved which ends up diluting the policies and bills.
Policies need time to show results. Better to have one party govern for a term or two and then vote another if things aren't going well.
Infact, I would have preferred two terms of Trump or Biden back to back than Trump - Biden - Trump