Questions & Mysteries What are the current FV odds now that Imu is revealed too early?
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It is still Imu. It’s really beyond debate at this point. The best you could hope for BB is final battle, but the FV is the one that made the One Piece necessary in the first place.
Besides that, there’s not much left to discuss as long as Shiryu of the Rain the “small-time thug” is the best BB has to offer.
Besides that, there’s not much left to discuss as long as Shiryu of the Rain the “small-time thug” is the best BB has to offer.
Literally learn the void century before the strawhats lmao? Not gonna happen
Then you need to also flip the script, because neither is Imu lol. Worst case, both exist at the end of the story, but all of your threads and responses imply Imu loses relevancy before Laugh Tale unlike Teach or Teach has some magical precedence of taking out Imu over Luffy, the actual MC of the story.
Your bias is clearly showing here. Both characters are meant to be taken out by Luffy in the end, and thats the point. The difference is one is actually tied what the One Piece is meant to be used for, unlike the other.
This is why Teach losing first makes sense, because he's not going to become Pirate King.
Then you need to also flip the script, because neither is Imu lol. Worst case, both exist at the end of the story, but all of your threads and responses imply Imu loses relevancy before Laugh Tale unlike Teach or Teach has some magical precedence of taking out Imu over Luffy, the actual MC of the story.
Your bias is clearly showing here. Both characters are meant to be taken out by Luffy in the end, and thats the point. The difference is one is actually tied what the One Piece is meant to be used for, unlike the other.
This is why Teach losing first makes sense, because he's not going to become Pirate King.
I can see the temptation for wanting this, but that effectively ruins the race to PK and the themes behind it. Like imagine Whitebeard's "its not you" speech not mattering because Teach found One Piece first.
Im not going to deny Blackbeard cant or wont be relevant to the island, in fact I actually think he makes it there like Luffy, but imo this is why I expect him to lose before Luffy actually becomes Pirate King.
Right now, my "personal" expectation following Elbaph involves the war for the 4th RP between the Yonko and likely Marines. The fallout of this leads to Shanks dying to Teach and possibly Akainu losing to Luffy. That follows to both the BBP and SHP making it to LT and fighting over One Piece.
The real question is however if Imu is going to be relevant at that exact moment or we actually go backwards to Mariejoa due to the Galleila, Noah and the FI prophecy. Imu losing anytime before this makes little sense since he's literally the main plot resolution of finding OP
Edit: Its actually why the Blackbeard fanbase seems to think Teach can take out Imu before finding One Piece, because they know it doesnt make sense if he actually becomes Pirate King before Luffy. But becoming PK is literally the stepping stone to either controlling everything or liberating it all so you can see why the idea is just absolutely backwards.
Im not going to deny Blackbeard cant or wont be relevant to the island, in fact I actually think he makes it there like Luffy, but imo this is why I expect him to lose before Luffy actually becomes Pirate King.
Right now, my "personal" expectation following Elbaph involves the war for the 4th RP between the Yonko and likely Marines. The fallout of this leads to Shanks dying to Teach and possibly Akainu losing to Luffy. That follows to both the BBP and SHP making it to LT and fighting over One Piece.
The real question is however if Imu is going to be relevant at that exact moment or we actually go backwards to Mariejoa due to the Galleila, Noah and the FI prophecy. Imu losing anytime before this makes little sense since he's literally the main plot resolution of finding OP
Edit: Its actually why the Blackbeard fanbase seems to think Teach can take out Imu before finding One Piece, because they know it doesnt make sense if he actually becomes Pirate King before Luffy. But becoming PK is literally the stepping stone to either controlling everything or liberating it all so you can see why the idea is just absolutely backwards.
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I think we’ll see most of the Void Century revealed before the fall of these two antagonists. Only things strictly tied to the One Piece itself will remain hidden, which you’ll discover once you reach Laugh Tale.
The showdown between Imu and Teach is inevitable, and Teach cannot lose. There would be no point in having Teach exist in the story if he ended up losing to Imu, or worse, never meeting him at all. Unlike Luffy, Teach has a personal grudge against Imu. He would absorb him and become the new devil, and Luffy would have to deal with him at the end.
The fight between Luffy and Imu is happening now, in Elbaph.
The showdown between Imu and Teach is inevitable, and Teach cannot lose. There would be no point in having Teach exist in the story if he ended up losing to Imu, or worse, never meeting him at all. Unlike Luffy, Teach has a personal grudge against Imu. He would absorb him and become the new devil, and Luffy would have to deal with him at the end.
The fight between Luffy and Imu is happening now, in Elbaph.
Davy isn’t important to Joyboys story. Davy and Imu likely have their own story that will be fleshed out prior to raftel.
All the poneglyphs Robin Ohara and Vegapunk read, were about Joyboy and his history and Davy Jones didn’t occur in any of them. As such it’s safe to assume these are two stories that have little intersection.
All the poneglyphs Robin Ohara and Vegapunk read, were about Joyboy and his history and Davy Jones didn’t occur in any of them. As such it’s safe to assume these are two stories that have little intersection.
Well yeah because thats the end of the story lmao
The "things" tied to One Piece are the use case of taking down the World Government with the Ancient Weapons. Joyboy left it there for his successors. Read Oden's flashback man.
No its not? Literally the new ZKK. You guys act like Teach has precedence over fighting Imu over Luffy lmao. We are once again entering mass delusion because people stan their characters
Imu didnt exist in the story for 2 decades. What is your point here? Again, you assume they are fighting magically in some isolated 1v1. Teach is losing to Luffy. Imu is losing to Luffy.
Kaido and BM talk up and down about obtaining ancient weapons to destroy/take over the world and they literally do none of it in the end.
Literally made up nonsense. Nowhere does it state Teach has a grudge against Imu, let alone even knows he exists. Absorb him how? With what made up powers? Without One Piece and the Ancient Weapons? Do you see how your headcanon bias influences your thought process here?
No, obviously you dont.
Not in the way you think lmao. Without any Gorosei, HKs, Seraphim, CP0, or other subordinates. He aint losing here. And he's not losing to Teach either.
The "things" tied to One Piece are the use case of taking down the World Government with the Ancient Weapons. Joyboy left it there for his successors. Read Oden's flashback man.
No its not? Literally the new ZKK. You guys act like Teach has precedence over fighting Imu over Luffy lmao. We are once again entering mass delusion because people stan their characters
Imu didnt exist in the story for 2 decades. What is your point here? Again, you assume they are fighting magically in some isolated 1v1. Teach is losing to Luffy. Imu is losing to Luffy.
Kaido and BM talk up and down about obtaining ancient weapons to destroy/take over the world and they literally do none of it in the end.
Literally made up nonsense. Nowhere does it state Teach has a grudge against Imu, let alone even knows he exists. Absorb him how? With what made up powers? Without One Piece and the Ancient Weapons? Do you see how your headcanon bias influences your thought process here?
No, obviously you dont.
Not in the way you think lmao. Without any Gorosei, HKs, Seraphim, CP0, or other subordinates. He aint losing here. And he's not losing to Teach either.
The difference between Teach killing Imu and ZKK is that Teach isn't Luffy's subordinate who's competing with him for screentime, but a fellow antagonist. And unlike Kaido, Luffy and Imu's relationship isn't really fleshed out yet, where's by Zou, he promised he would take down Kaido. Imu in the last chapter is thinking of how *Both* Luffy and Teach represent his ancient enemies. They'll both have a role in his downfall, most likely.
He definitely knows about Imu, since his mom knew, and she raised him before he was found by Whitebeard. You don't think she ever tried explaining what happened to their home country and why his dad tried to kill him lol? He also probably has some sort of plan to fight him, with the Yami being the answer.
He definitely knows about Imu, since his mom knew, and she raised him before he was found by Whitebeard. You don't think she ever tried explaining what happened to their home country and why his dad tried to kill him lol? He also probably has some sort of plan to fight him, with the Yami being the answer.