Character Discussion Imu is clearly the Final Villain
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The final villain doing the most atrocities is more satisfying and cohesive for the story. Blackbeard and Xebec are both victims of Imu as well, the latter ruined their lives. Beating Imu will be personal for majority of the cast, and will feel cathartic. Characters that have suffered directly from the World Government. Thematically, Imu fits as well as the counterpart to freedom. Meanwhile, Blackbeard and Luffy are two sides of the same coin, Blackbeard is also a character rooted in freedom and chasing dreams.
Cohesive shounens with more satisfying endings and one built up FV:
FMA
MHA
Dogshit shounen endings with shoehorned FVs or twist:
Naruto
Bleach
AoT
One Piece if Blackbeard steps up in the final minutes of the fight. Literally has no bearing at all to majority of the present players. He’ll only be a personal fight for the SHs.
I’m sorry but somebody has to say it, you guys don’t know basic storytelling and you just like Blackbeard as a character lol. I love him too, but he’s not the fitting FV to tie up everything neatly.
Cohesive shounens with more satisfying endings and one built up FV:
FMA
MHA
Dogshit shounen endings with shoehorned FVs or twist:
Naruto
Bleach
AoT
One Piece if Blackbeard steps up in the final minutes of the fight. Literally has no bearing at all to majority of the present players. He’ll only be a personal fight for the SHs.
I’m sorry but somebody has to say it, you guys don’t know basic storytelling and you just like Blackbeard as a character lol. I love him too, but he’s not the fitting FV to tie up everything neatly.
Honestly, the BB crew aren't even a personal fight for the strawhats. They don't know them, have no real reason to fight them.
Like if BB sits on the throne and makes the world free, why would Luffy show up to Marejois to fight him?
The only reason is for the One Piece, to become Pirate King, but that is something done before the final war, not after.
Like if BB sits on the throne and makes the world free, why would Luffy show up to Marejois to fight him?
The only reason is for the One Piece, to become Pirate King, but that is something done before the final war, not after.
I do, that's why I know it's baseless.
What justifies the assumption Luffy will be in a position to prevent Blackbeard from usurping Imu?
Who says he has to?
Yet another baseless claim.
You don't know what Blackbeard is planning or what will happen.
The audience is in the dark on many things. We don't know what we don't know, that's why you making one unsubstantiated claim after the other is silly. Maybe wait till we get more of Blackbeard's perspective and see what happens Imu, the Mother Flame, Ancient Weapons, etc.
What justifies the assumption Luffy will be in a position to prevent Blackbeard from usurping Imu?
Who says he has to?
Yet another baseless claim.
You don't know what Blackbeard is planning or what will happen.
The audience is in the dark on many things. We don't know what we don't know, that's why you making one unsubstantiated claim after the other is silly. Maybe wait till we get more of Blackbeard's perspective and see what happens Imu, the Mother Flame, Ancient Weapons, etc.
I call it baseless speculation.
It means, who says Blackbeard has to do more evil than Imu in whatever window of time he has as King of the World? Maybe he does, he could go wild, maybe he doesn't. That part of the story hasn't been written yet, and you have no basis for inference either way.
This is you imposing parameters based solely on your preference, not a reading of the text, and it shows.
We don't know what he plans on doing once he gets there, is the point.
The only thing that's clear is that Blackbeard is aiming to succeed where is father failed.
We know little else about what motivates him or what he intends to do with the power he seeks. In fact, we know very little about Blackbeard that isn't on the surface.
You're getting ahead of the story because you're impatient and frustrated, that's all this is.
It means, who says Blackbeard has to do more evil than Imu in whatever window of time he has as King of the World? Maybe he does, he could go wild, maybe he doesn't. That part of the story hasn't been written yet, and you have no basis for inference either way.
This is you imposing parameters based solely on your preference, not a reading of the text, and it shows.
We don't know what he plans on doing once he gets there, is the point.
The only thing that's clear is that Blackbeard is aiming to succeed where is father failed.
We know little else about what motivates him or what he intends to do with the power he seeks. In fact, we know very little about Blackbeard that isn't on the surface.
You're getting ahead of the story because you're impatient and frustrated, that's all this is.
More Elbaph progressed, more the chances of Teach as FV increased.
IMU and WG seems like bad guys with good intentions going wrong - or you can say power corrupted them. They did try to have world order and peace but through bad means. It's like their end was good but means were bad.
And, considering all the hints, it's more likely that Davy Jones rule over ancient kingdom was far more evil and tryrannical for everyone. I mean there had to be a really good reason for the rest of the world to ally against ancient kingdom. And only reason which fits is Davy Jones was evil.
Not to mention, in the recent chapter it felt like IMU and Joyboy were more like friends before things went wrong between them whereas Luffy and BB are like anti -thesis to each other from the beginning.
IMU and WG seems like bad guys with good intentions going wrong - or you can say power corrupted them. They did try to have world order and peace but through bad means. It's like their end was good but means were bad.
And, considering all the hints, it's more likely that Davy Jones rule over ancient kingdom was far more evil and tryrannical for everyone. I mean there had to be a really good reason for the rest of the world to ally against ancient kingdom. And only reason which fits is Davy Jones was evil.
Not to mention, in the recent chapter it felt like IMU and Joyboy were more like friends before things went wrong between them whereas Luffy and BB are like anti -thesis to each other from the beginning.
You call it baseless speculation, because it doesn‘t fit your narrative nothing more nothing less.
The story says it, shounen logic says it. The big bad needs to be beaten, a lesser evil being beaten after it, has no consequential impact on the whole story.
It‘s not my preference. You don‘t even know what my preferences are, while you‘re clearly bias on not having Imu as the FV & pushing BB towards to be the FV..
Because it doesn‘t matter what BB plans if he becomes the KoW, the intentions are irrelevant.
Nobody will tolerate a sole KoW, the WG is there to be beaten and not to be rebuild with another sole KoW.
Nobody needs a singular World government, it literally mirrors the real •“conspiracy theories“ of having a NWO and install one sole World Government.
The story says it, shounen logic says it. The big bad needs to be beaten, a lesser evil being beaten after it, has no consequential impact on the whole story.
It‘s not my preference. You don‘t even know what my preferences are, while you‘re clearly bias on not having Imu as the FV & pushing BB towards to be the FV..
Because it doesn‘t matter what BB plans if he becomes the KoW, the intentions are irrelevant.
Nobody will tolerate a sole KoW, the WG is there to be beaten and not to be rebuild with another sole KoW.
Nobody needs a singular World government, it literally mirrors the real •“conspiracy theories“ of having a NWO and install one sole World Government.
Have you all read the God Valley flashback? That flashback guarantees that Imu and Blackbeard will inevitably face each other, and that everything Blackbeard has done up to now has been building toward that moment.
Imu and Blackbeard are 100% going to meet.
And what will Blackbeard do at that moment? He’ll take what Imu had promised to Davy Jones.
The darkness that absorbs the devil. Blackbeard becomes the new head of the World Government, with the Ancient Weapons, new powers, and everything he needs to become the final threat.
Imu and Blackbeard are 100% going to meet.
And what will Blackbeard do at that moment? He’ll take what Imu had promised to Davy Jones.
The darkness that absorbs the devil. Blackbeard becomes the new head of the World Government, with the Ancient Weapons, new powers, and everything he needs to become the final threat.
Have you all read the God Valley flashback? That flashback guarantees that Imu and Blackbeard will inevitably face each other, and that everything Blackbeard has done up to now has been building toward that moment.
Imu and Blackbeard are 100% going to meet.
And what will Blackbeard do at that moment? He’ll take what Imu had promised to Davy Jones.
The darkness that absorbs the devil. Blackbeard becomes the new head of the World Government, with the Ancient Weapons, new powers, and everything he needs to become the final threat.
Imu and Blackbeard are 100% going to meet.
And what will Blackbeard do at that moment? He’ll take what Imu had promised to Davy Jones.
The darkness that absorbs the devil. Blackbeard becomes the new head of the World Government, with the Ancient Weapons, new powers, and everything he needs to become the final threat.
This is a clear case of projection.
I'm not invested in any particular outcome in the narrative, but you are, and you seem to think you can will certain outcomes if you just believe hard enough. It doesn't work that way.
There is no truth to any of this, beside your clear lack of imagination. You keep going back to this well as if you know what's ahead of us in the story. You don't know.
They're calling it the clearest case of project in 2026.
Blackbeard's intentions are Marineford happened and Whitebeard died. They very much matter.
Not a single thing you've raised presents an actual obstacle to his being the final villain. What the world needs has no bearing on what Blackbeard wants to impose on it - assuming he even wants to perpetuate the WG in its present form.
The only thing that matters is Blackbeard's desire and ability to usurp Imu's throne. Oda's been writing towards that becoming a reality for damn near 30 years, with each revelation about him making that clearer.
Your issue is that you've lost track of the wider context surrounding Blackbeard. As a result of that, you've lost sight of the work Oda has put in, like his history with Shanks, his Davy clan heritage, WB's final words, the nature of his Yami Yami DF, his ability to consume multiple Devil Fruit, and the fact he doesn't sleep, which has particular literary weight in a series that puts so much emphasis on dreams.
What's funny about you projecting on me that I have some rooted investment in Blackbeard being the final villain is that the one with that rooted investment is the author of this series, who I remind you again, has been building this villainous character 30 years.
I'm not invested in any particular outcome in the narrative, but you are, and you seem to think you can will certain outcomes if you just believe hard enough. It doesn't work that way.
There is no truth to any of this, beside your clear lack of imagination. You keep going back to this well as if you know what's ahead of us in the story. You don't know.
They're calling it the clearest case of project in 2026.
Blackbeard's intentions are Marineford happened and Whitebeard died. They very much matter.
Not a single thing you've raised presents an actual obstacle to his being the final villain. What the world needs has no bearing on what Blackbeard wants to impose on it - assuming he even wants to perpetuate the WG in its present form.
The only thing that matters is Blackbeard's desire and ability to usurp Imu's throne. Oda's been writing towards that becoming a reality for damn near 30 years, with each revelation about him making that clearer.
Your issue is that you've lost track of the wider context surrounding Blackbeard. As a result of that, you've lost sight of the work Oda has put in, like his history with Shanks, his Davy clan heritage, WB's final words, the nature of his Yami Yami DF, his ability to consume multiple Devil Fruit, and the fact he doesn't sleep, which has particular literary weight in a series that puts so much emphasis on dreams.
What's funny about you projecting on me that I have some rooted investment in Blackbeard being the final villain is that the one with that rooted investment is the author of this series, who I remind you again, has been building this villainous character 30 years.
Imu is the last barrier standing in the way of reaching the One Piece, once that obstacle is gone, the path to the truth of the treasure is finally clear.
Blackbeard, on the other hand, seems destined to be Luffy’s final opponent after the One Piece is revealed. They serve different thematic roles, so either direction could work, but I personally lean toward Blackbeard being the ultimate villain.
Joy Boy vs Davy Jones in the third world fighting over the greatest treasure of their first world ancestors? Inject it in my fucking veins
Blackbeard, on the other hand, seems destined to be Luffy’s final opponent after the One Piece is revealed. They serve different thematic roles, so either direction could work, but I personally lean toward Blackbeard being the ultimate villain.
Joy Boy vs Davy Jones in the third world fighting over the greatest treasure of their first world ancestors? Inject it in my fucking veins
This is a clear case of projection.
I'm not invested in any particular outcome in the narrative, but you are, and you seem to think you can will certain outcomes if you just believe hard enough. It doesn't work that way.
There is no truth to any of this, beside your clear lack of imagination. You keep going back to this well as if you know what's ahead of us in the story. You don't know.
They're calling it the clearest case of project in 2026.
Blackbeard's intentions are Marineford happened and Whitebeard died. They very much matter.
Not a single thing you've raised presents an actual obstacle to his being the final villain. What the world needs has no bearing on what Blackbeard wants to impose on it - assuming he even wants to perpetuate the WG in its present form.
The only thing that matters is Blackbeard's desire and ability to usurp Imu's throne. Oda's been writing towards that becoming a reality for damn near 30 years, with each revelation about him making that clearer.
Your issue is that you've lost track of the wider context surrounding Blackbeard. As a result of that, you've lost sight of the work Oda has put in, like his history with Shanks, his Davy clan heritage, WB's final words, the nature of his Yami Yami DF, his ability to consume multiple Devil Fruit, and the fact he doesn't sleep, which has particular literary weight in a series that puts so much emphasis on dreams.
What's funny about you projecting on me that I have some rooted investment in Blackbeard being the final villain is that the one with that rooted investment is the author of this series, who I remind you again, has been building this villainous character 30 years.
I'm not invested in any particular outcome in the narrative, but you are, and you seem to think you can will certain outcomes if you just believe hard enough. It doesn't work that way.
There is no truth to any of this, beside your clear lack of imagination. You keep going back to this well as if you know what's ahead of us in the story. You don't know.
They're calling it the clearest case of project in 2026.
Blackbeard's intentions are Marineford happened and Whitebeard died. They very much matter.
Not a single thing you've raised presents an actual obstacle to his being the final villain. What the world needs has no bearing on what Blackbeard wants to impose on it - assuming he even wants to perpetuate the WG in its present form.
The only thing that matters is Blackbeard's desire and ability to usurp Imu's throne. Oda's been writing towards that becoming a reality for damn near 30 years, with each revelation about him making that clearer.
Your issue is that you've lost track of the wider context surrounding Blackbeard. As a result of that, you've lost sight of the work Oda has put in, like his history with Shanks, his Davy clan heritage, WB's final words, the nature of his Yami Yami DF, his ability to consume multiple Devil Fruit, and the fact he doesn't sleep, which has particular literary weight in a series that puts so much emphasis on dreams.
What's funny about you projecting on me that I have some rooted investment in Blackbeard being the final villain is that the one with that rooted investment is the author of this series, who I remind you again, has been building this villainous character 30 years.
