General & Others In the eyes of the fandom, is it possible for Luffy to get any type of W against Imu?

[Zoinks52]

Lmao imo Kizaru is not going to get a serious on screen fight, so sure even if he's stronger than I predicted it won't amount to much.

Only Akainu is gonna get main antagonist lvl exposure. We can scale Kizaru around that.

Also Kizaru is still a cartoon character, idrc if he's so strong that FS + Snakeman was fodder to him, for me FS is useless if someone as fast as Luffy even with the ability to see the future cannot even keep up with Kizaru. That's like FS's entire purpose. I don't like useless abilities in the verse, I like things to be as technical as possible.

Bit depressing if he's not getting a proper fight.

FS as an ability is far too OP to work without heavy limitations. Literal foresight is too busted without a caveat.

 

[Konstantis]

If/when Luffy loses, will the fandom call him weak despite the quality of his performance?

If Luffy out performs everyone else will the fandom say he had help or Imu was tired because Luffy fought him last?

If Luffy does great will the fandom say, it wasn’t Luffy it was Joynoy or Nika?

Is it possible for Luffy to look good in the eyes of the fans?

I will say if Luffy will show good against Imu, Nerona Imu should be MC, because this story will be just boring to read.

 

[uyuu]

If/when Luffy loses, will the fandom call him weak despite the quality of his performance?

If Luffy out performs everyone else will the fandom say he had help or Imu was tired because Luffy fought him last?

If Luffy does great will the fandom say, it wasn’t Luffy it was Joynoy or Nika?

Is it possible for Luffy to look good in the eyes of the fans?

This is the result of Oda's method since nowadays he never made Luffy earn his power or victory properly anymore. Everything about him is a chosen one, being helped by everyone including his allies weakening his main enemies, even by his own enemies (Kizaru) and chosen one Devil Fruit lol

 

[DonWick]

This is the result of Oda's method since nowadays he never made Luffy earn his power or victory properly anymore. Everything about him is a chosen one, being helped by everyone including his allies weakening his main enemies, even by his own enemies (Kizaru) and chosen one Devil Fruit lol

I just don’t see it the same way. There is some truth to what you’re saying however, I don’t think people will be happy regardless. Nothing about Zoro and Sanjis power ups have been earned. People don’t have the same complaints there.

We’ve seen Luffy actively train to learn new things. Wano is a prime example and so is the fight with Katakuri.

 

[DonWick]

I will say if Luffy will show good against Imu, Nerona Imu should be MC, because this story will be just boring to read.

Luffy will still lose but that doesn’t mean he can’t show how strong he’s gotten.

 

[uyuu]

I just don’t see it the same way. There is some truth to what you’re saying however, I don’t think people will be happy regardless. Nothing about Zoro and Sanjis power ups have been earned. People don’t have the same complaints there.

We’ve seen Luffy actively train to learn new things. Wano is a prime example and so is the fight with Katakuri.

Luffy actively train to learn internal destruction, it was all useless anyway, that technique was instantly obsolete and even wasn't shown to be of any benefit in the fight against Kaidou. The decisive powerup is CoC coating whatever (instant powerup), everyone taking turns vs Kaidou (weakening him more or less), and finally Oda even changing Luffy's Gomu2 into the fruit of chosen one. None of the game changer skills (that allowed Luffy to win against Kaidou) was earned. It was all just spoonfed.

 

[Sentry22]

Did you just skip G4 vs Kizaru? Where Kizaru was handling him easily while Luffy was exerting tons of energy?

Luffy was forced to go G5 to compete and only managed a stalemate in it. Hence he was at the mercy of Kizaru who spared his life by feeding him instead of driving his sword in his skull.

Handling him easily in G4? You mean him flying up so far away that Luffy couldn’t see him just so he could charge up an attack to land a single hit on luffy? They were keeping up with each other until Kizaru decided to fly away.

 

[ZenZu]

Handling him easily in G4? You mean him flying up so far away that Luffy couldn’t see him just so he could charge up an attack to land a single hit on luffy? They were keeping up with each other until Kizaru decided to fly away.

No I mean Kizaru being half asleep dealing with all the Snakeman blows while Luffy is drawn shitting himself sweating to no avail.

The kick is just a bonus.

 

[Paragorn]

Handling him easily in G4? You mean him flying up so far away that Luffy couldn’t see him just so he could charge up an attack to land a single hit on luffy? They were keeping up with each other until Kizaru decided to fly away.

Can't read?

 

[kekaro]

No I mean Kizaru being half asleep dealing with all the Snakeman blows while Luffy is drawn shitting himself sweating to no avail.

The kick is just a bonus.

Can't read?

I dont know why you even humor this argument

Even if the "ehm actually Luffy was handling kizaru very well until he flew away and dropped kicked him into two piece" would be true, how is that an argument? That is using his abilities properly. Speed is weight.

"No flying no items only final destination zoro negs if his opponent stands still like a dumbo." aaah ass argument

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

We're only allowed to scale if Kizaru is he fights with sub 50 IQ and makes no use of his mobility/movement speed

 

[Paragorn]

We're only allowed to scale if Kizaru is he fights with sub 50 IQ and makes no use of his mobility/movement speed

Morons don't understand that fighting style depends on the characters DF. So yoy can expect Kizaru to fight the same way as Kaido who choose took several attacks from Luffy and went 1v1 hand fight, i mean, if your best DF's attribute is speed, then why not using speed? Lol

 

[Juanpiz]

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Morons don't understand that fighting style depends on the characters DF. So yoy can expect Kizaru to fight the same way as Kaido who choose took several attacks from Luffy and went 1v1 hand fight, i mean, if your best DF's attribute is speed, then why not using speed? Lol

And personality

 

[Sentry22]

No I mean Kizaru being half asleep dealing with all the Snakeman blows while Luffy is drawn shitting himself sweating to no avail.

The kick is just a bonus.

i see we’re reading two piece again.

 

[Sentry22]

I dont know why you even humor this argument

Even if the "ehm actually Luffy was handling kizaru very well until he flew away and dropped kicked him into two piece" would be true, how is that an argument? That is using his abilities properly. Speed is weight.

"No flying no items only final destination zoro negs if his opponent stands still like a dumbo." aaah ass argument

I’m arguing against the idea that it was easy and that he had put no effort in it. Maybe try reading it this time.

 

[Paragorn]

This guy has no idea what he's talking about, just yapping

 

[Sentry22]

This guy has no idea what he's talking about, just yapping

says the guy who didn’t read what i said. What was the first sentence genius.

 

[Paragorn]

says the guy who didn’t read what i said. What was the first sentence genius.

Yeah, everyone is misinterpreting you, you're right lol

 

[DonWick]

I dont know why you even humor this argument

Even if the "ehm actually Luffy was handling kizaru very well until he flew away and dropped kicked him into two piece" would be true, how is that an argument? That is using his abilities properly. Speed is weight.

"No flying no items only final destination zoro negs if his opponent stands still like a dumbo." aaah ass argument

Morons don't understand that fighting style depends on the characters DF. So yoy can expect Kizaru to fight the same way as Kaido who choose took several attacks from Luffy and went 1v1 hand fight, i mean, if your best DF's attribute is speed, then why not using speed? Lol

I just hope yall know G2,3,4,5 are all Luffy. When you have to discount their devil fruit to bash them makes it clear that you realize how strong that they are.

Imagine saying Kizaru would be ass if he didn’t move at light speed! He has a charge time so he really isn’t light speed.

Or Zoro wouldn’t be shit if he didn’t have three swords!

Guess what they have those abilities get over it. Luffy > Kizaru and all of your favorite characters.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If Luffy can finish or at least end up doing better than Loki did against currently nerfed Imu, then he’ll get a huge W. But if Oda has Loki suicide himself just to nerf Imu and give Luffy a chance at looking good against Imu (Doffy style) then he’s going to continue being clowned for being carried by plot