What will be Sanji Conqueror Epithet ?


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Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
I kinda understand this, but that's also something that I kinda disagree on.

The whole Black Maria thing of Sanji asking for Robin's help and fully trusting on her.
Him trusting Usopp would keep Nami safe when they started getting chased by the dinobros.

Idk.
Feels like a mere checkbox. willing to see how it goes.
 
Germa 66 days conquest happened 300 y ago

so yeah it’s safe to say the Gorosei Sanji will fight was alive back then or even directly participated in Germa downfall
I'm glad we got back to Sanji, but I am still hoping we go back to Brook's flashback soon after or during the fight.

I need to see Sanji Germa mfers before Judge turned it into a kingdom of technology.

Sanji's mother is also going to have some relevance directly or indirectly. I'm sure of it.
 
The translations changed from

1. Self-deprecating
2. Uncertainty (tcbscans)
3. Masochistic instability (Manga Plus)

Some say it's due to self sacrifice, but Sanji's literally doing the opposite this chapter. He literally says he's choosing his own code over saving the kids and mothers, that's the farthest thing from self-sacrifice.
 
The translations changed from

1. Self-deprecating
2. Uncertainty (tcbscans)
3. Masochistic instability (Manga Plus)

Some say it's due to self sacrifice, but Sanji's literally doing the opposite this chapter. He literally says he's choosing his own code over saving the kids and mothers, that's the farthest thing from self-sacrifice.
That’s what Julius’ post is talking about. Sanji needs to be able to rely on the others to take care of them rather than sacrificing himself to do it and putting himself in a battle he can’t win.
 
That’s what Julius’ post is talking about. Sanji needs to be able to rely on the others to take care of them rather than sacrificing himself to do it and putting himself in a battle he can’t win.
But Sanji's been doing that for a while now, since Wano at least. Is there even an example these last 150 chapters where he's sacrificing himself?
Luffy's the one telling others to stay back and let himself handle it some chapters ago, and on Egghead too.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
Sanji's a protector.
The difference is the motivation behind these. He used to throw his life away rather quickly over some sense of debt.

Think Baratie, how he wanted to let himself get killed by Pearl because he thought he owned Zeff his life.
Think Thriller Bark, how he wanted to throw his life away for Zoro's dream, but not for his own.
How WCI brought up all his trauma and why he feels this need to devalue his own life and consider others' more important.

What needs to change is his perspective about it. He shouldn't throw himself in dangerous situations "because his friends lives are more important". He needs to do it because he's a shield for the SHs, a King who protects his people.

As Zoro is the "samurai" type, serving a lord by striking down his lord's enemies (the sword), Sanji is more of a Knight protecting the people (the Shield).
Suddenly his scene of taking the S-Shark punch without flinching and talking about the PoL there makes a whole lot more sense.
:Think:
 
Also for the Japanese translation in Julius' post:

Gaban also emphasized something else.
“自虐の危うさを抱えている
You carry the dangerous habit of putting yourself down.”

This doesn't sound like self-sacrifice. He puts himself down like when he said "Zoro/Jimbe would pull ahead" or something like that infront of Gaban.
 
I never viewed Sanji's "self-sacrifice" as a negative. Like saving Usopp & Nami from Enel, as if Luffy or Zoro wouldn't have done the same thing in that situation. Same with Thriller bark vs Kuma. Same with Doflamingo.
Like Luffy tells crew to run away and fights Aokiji alone = Positive, Good
But Sanji does something like that = Negative, Bad?
 
Sanji's a protector.
The difference is the motivation behind these. He used to throw his life away rather quickly over some sense of debt.

Think Baratie, how he wanted to let himself get killed by Pearl because he thought he owned Zeff his life.
Think Thriller Bark, how he wanted to throw his life away for Zoro's dream, but not for his own.
How WCI brought up all his trauma and why he feels this need to devalue his own life and consider others' more important.

What needs to change is his perspective about it. He shouldn't throw himself in dangerous situations "because his friends lives are more important". He needs to do it because he's a shield for the SHs, a King who protects his people.

As Zoro is the "samurai" type, serving a lord by striking down his lord's enemies (the sword), Sanji is more of a Knight protecting the people (the Shield).
Suddenly his scene of taking the S-Shark punch without flinching and talking about the PoL there makes a whole lot more sense.
:Think:

Completely unrelated but I must say out loud I love your signature :steef:
Denying the Farmer is not advisable though :hope:
 
I never viewed Sanji's "self-sacrifice" as a negative. Like saving Usopp & Nami from Enel, as if Luffy or Zoro wouldn't have done the same thing in that situation. Same with Thriller bark vs Kuma. Same with Doflamingo.
Like Luffy tells crew to run away and fights Aokiji alone = Positive, Good
But Sanji does something like that = Negative, Bad?
There is a difference between throwing yourself at a hopeless situation intending to survive against the odds, and sacrificing yourself for others because you see yourself as dispensable.

It's not strictly the external action of self-sacrifice that's the problem, it's the inner working of Sanji for doing so that's the problem.
 
I never viewed Sanji's "self-sacrifice" as a negative. Like saving Usopp & Nami from Enel, as if Luffy or Zoro wouldn't have done the same thing in that situation. Same with Thriller bark vs Kuma. Same with Doflamingo.
Like Luffy tells crew to run away and fights Aokiji alone = Positive, Good
But Sanji does something like that = Negative, Bad?
Self sacrificing without holding back is actually a conqueror's trait

It's probably Sanji putting himself down for no good reason, its a mental block that he has to overcome
 
What do you fools expect how Sanji gonna unlock it?

My idea:

In the middle of the fight when Sanji finally gets rid of his mental block, he releases a crazy amount of Haki! Black lightning covers as far as the eye can see! The Rain clouds created by Zaza being split in half and sunrays shines through. Sanji being mid air is engulfed in light similar to this picture:

KH is looking at Sanji in awe and asks,
“Are you a God?!“
Right before getting kicked in his face sending him flying into the Adam’s Tree (like what Loki did with Imu) shaking the whole Tree/Island!

:finally:
Please Oda! Let me write this fight!
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
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