Literally just saw that shit on twitter.
Sanji fans mad asf.
https://x.com/foolishmagici4n/status/2075695632942051426?s=20
Sanji fans mad asf.
https://x.com/foolishmagici4n/status/2075695632942051426?s=20
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That is one way but I was thinking more of like how it was one Wano when Sanji noticed Luffy's presence dissapearing.
The current Sanji CoC plot line is tied to him removing whatever blocker he has in his head that is restricting him from awakening Conqueror's Haki in order to help Luffy and said Luffy is on the brink of getting killed by Imu so this should at the very least speed up the process.
The current Sanji CoC plot line is tied to him removing whatever blocker he has in his head that is restricting him from awakening Conqueror's Haki in order to help Luffy and said Luffy is on the brink of getting killed by Imu so this should at the very least speed up the process.
Seeing the reaction on here alone I can't help but feel that that was the point 
Nobody that is actually being serious can utter a statement like that. So prolly an attempt to rack up views.
Got nothing against him but that's how it comes across to me.
Needless to say I'm not watching or clicking any of that lol
Nobody that is actually being serious can utter a statement like that. So prolly an attempt to rack up views.
Got nothing against him but that's how it comes across to me.
Needless to say I'm not watching or clicking any of that lol
Fam I think I've broken the code on the route Oda's gonna take with Sanji's CoC, which imo is the most organic route for his character.
Was watching Kamiki's vid (a Japanese YTber, most likely a Zoro fan so not a fan of all his takes, has a bit of bias in my opinion, though he does try to be neutral tbf to him). Anyways he was talking about Sanji's potential moniker after awakening CoC and mentioned something I thought was really interesting, which is that the Kirin is a mythological creature that's said to appear before the coming or birth of a great king. Which is wild given Sanji is quite literally fighting Killingham, a Kirin and is right on the verge of unlocking CoC.
So I did a bit of digging and turns out this Kirin lore has strong ties to Confucius. The story goes that right before Confucius was born, a Kirin appeared to his mother, either spitting out or being found with a jade tablet in its mouth bearing a prophecy that she'd give birth to a "throneless king," a sage of unmatched virtue who'd never actually hold royal power. And that's basically exactly what happened. Confucius never held a throne in his life, yet he's one of the single greatest figures in Chinese history, arguably shaped Chinese and East Asian civilization more than any actual emperor did.
Long story short, I can't help but feel this maps onto Sanji almost perfectly. Someone with real kingly qualities who never actually vies for the throne, never wants the crown, runs from his own bloodline's legitimacy even. So even more than Mao, King of Sky, or King of Love, I think Sanji's moniker might end up being something like "Uncrowned King."
What do y'all think?
Was watching Kamiki's vid (a Japanese YTber, most likely a Zoro fan so not a fan of all his takes, has a bit of bias in my opinion, though he does try to be neutral tbf to him). Anyways he was talking about Sanji's potential moniker after awakening CoC and mentioned something I thought was really interesting, which is that the Kirin is a mythological creature that's said to appear before the coming or birth of a great king. Which is wild given Sanji is quite literally fighting Killingham, a Kirin and is right on the verge of unlocking CoC.
So I did a bit of digging and turns out this Kirin lore has strong ties to Confucius. The story goes that right before Confucius was born, a Kirin appeared to his mother, either spitting out or being found with a jade tablet in its mouth bearing a prophecy that she'd give birth to a "throneless king," a sage of unmatched virtue who'd never actually hold royal power. And that's basically exactly what happened. Confucius never held a throne in his life, yet he's one of the single greatest figures in Chinese history, arguably shaped Chinese and East Asian civilization more than any actual emperor did.
Long story short, I can't help but feel this maps onto Sanji almost perfectly. Someone with real kingly qualities who never actually vies for the throne, never wants the crown, runs from his own bloodline's legitimacy even. So even more than Mao, King of Sky, or King of Love, I think Sanji's moniker might end up being something like "Uncrowned King."
What do y'all think?
Don't think Sanji will ever become a King of Germa :p but I can see people following him and referring to him as one even if he outrights rejects the title. A way the Germa ting could work though is if Reiji becomes Queen and decides that the only true King of Germa is Sanji and decides to follow him but Sanji outright rejects it even though Germa is techincally under him ^^
The Baratie ting is defo gonna happen though ^^
Can see Sanji calling that resturant "All Blue" and it being the biggest resturant on the Grand Line.
Also calling it now Sanji's CoC awakening chapter title is gonna be 無冠の王 (Mukan no Ou) - "Uncrowned/Crownless King"
The Baratie ting is defo gonna happen though ^^
Can see Sanji calling that resturant "All Blue" and it being the biggest resturant on the Grand Line.
Also calling it now Sanji's CoC awakening chapter title is gonna be 無冠の王 (Mukan no Ou) - "Uncrowned/Crownless King"
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I think he is going for the most direct and simplest route, King of Love, and call it a day. Ten'ō sounds cooler and would mirror Zoro's so who knows.
I do like the Crownless King idea but I don't really know what kind of epiphany may lead to that.
In any case I hope Killingham power has some role to play in this CoC awakening. I wouldn't really like Sanji awaken CoC just because with no external reason. I want him to live through some crazy nightmare and Killingham is the right guy for the job
I do like the Crownless King idea but I don't really know what kind of epiphany may lead to that.
In any case I hope Killingham power has some role to play in this CoC awakening. I wouldn't really like Sanji awaken CoC just because with no external reason. I want him to live through some crazy nightmare and Killingham is the right guy for the job
Theory has legs but not really a fan.
"Sora" - Sanji's mom
"Sky Walk"
"Garuda" - Judge
Sanji being great at Aerial Battle.
Zoro - Hell | Luffy - Sea | Sanji - Sky
I've seen quite a few interpretations of Gaban's statement to Sanji in the JP fandom and some of them fit my own interpretation of it, which is that Sanji has a blocker in his mind with regard to the concept of "King" due to Judge and his experiences as a child. So my answer to that is that Sanji acknoweldges what he is, a Germa Prince but says he doesn't want a title of a King but resolves himself to become a King Killer of sorts instead, to clear the way for Luffy to become King of the Pirates and also a sorta judge for those like Judge who utlize their power to oppress the weak.
"Sora" - Sanji's mom
"Sky Walk"
"Garuda" - Judge
Sanji being great at Aerial Battle.
Zoro - Hell | Luffy - Sea | Sanji - Sky
I've seen quite a few interpretations of Gaban's statement to Sanji in the JP fandom and some of them fit my own interpretation of it, which is that Sanji has a blocker in his mind with regard to the concept of "King" due to Judge and his experiences as a child. So my answer to that is that Sanji acknoweldges what he is, a Germa Prince but says he doesn't want a title of a King but resolves himself to become a King Killer of sorts instead, to clear the way for Luffy to become King of the Pirates and also a sorta judge for those like Judge who utlize their power to oppress the weak.
Interesting lore and Oda may use it as a base for Sanji in one way or another.
But i don't see Sanji himself announcing as the Uncrowned King. It's not a title, it is something that somebody would say about a person who might have the influence of a King, but doesn't have a Kingdom. You know, more like a saying you mention once and that's it.
Imagine someone seeing Sanji and screaming it's the Uncrowned King...that just sounds weird...
But i don't see Sanji himself announcing as the Uncrowned King. It's not a title, it is something that somebody would say about a person who might have the influence of a King, but doesn't have a Kingdom. You know, more like a saying you mention once and that's it.
Imagine someone seeing Sanji and screaming it's the Uncrowned King...that just sounds weird...
I feel like what Sanji needs isn't to reject the crown, but to embrace it and make it his own. He is a king, and he will have a crown, but he must first accept that role. The question is, what kind of king does he want to be? If you asked Sanji that question, everything points to him replying, "The King of Love/Passion/Ladies", something along those lines. If anything, Sanji, as he is now, is an uncrowned king who has yet to find his crown. Only when he becomes a Conqueror through self actualization will that change.
Don’t think it is tbh but we can disagree :p
In the first place though, Zoro’s Conqueror’s moniker is ‘King of Hell’ but nobody but he even knows that title, it’s self/proclaimed so it doesn’t have to be something people call him but rather a title that comes about as a result of him awakening CoC in this fight.
Sanji could say he doesn’t want to be King etc. with the justification I gave in my prior post but still awaken CoC regardless & Kiringham seeing this might be the one that gives him that title.
In the first place though, Zoro’s Conqueror’s moniker is ‘King of Hell’ but nobody but he even knows that title, it’s self/proclaimed so it doesn’t have to be something people call him but rather a title that comes about as a result of him awakening CoC in this fight.
Sanji could say he doesn’t want to be King etc. with the justification I gave in my prior post but still awaken CoC regardless & Kiringham seeing this might be the one that gives him that title.
Zoro proclaiming himself King of Hell is corny, but not as corny as proclaiming yourself the Uncrowned King. It just sounds unnatural idk…
But Zoro’s King of Hell is probably what his future nickname is gonna be, like Rayleighs Dark King, because Pirate Hunter is not accurate anymore since East Blue.
Sanji might get a new one aswell based of this fight right now, even though i like Black Leg.
Uncrowned King imo doesn’t sound good. We can agree to disagree on this one.
Meh don’t see it happening imo.
If Sanji is going to choose a name for himself, he is gonna call himself King of Love or some shit, it’s the most obvious one and Sanji sucks with nicknames.
But Zoro’s King of Hell is probably what his future nickname is gonna be, like Rayleighs Dark King, because Pirate Hunter is not accurate anymore since East Blue.
Sanji might get a new one aswell based of this fight right now, even though i like Black Leg.
Uncrowned King imo doesn’t sound good. We can agree to disagree on this one.
Meh don’t see it happening imo.
If Sanji is going to choose a name for himself, he is gonna call himself King of Love or some shit, it’s the most obvious one and Sanji sucks with nicknames.
Tbh prior to seeing this whole ting about the Kirin and the Uncrowned King I was leaning towards that tbh and imo that is also a valid route. Though I think the uncrowned king route is more organic. Reason being that Sanji has never really come across as wanting to rule over others despite being a prince & this is very evident in his back story with the Vinsmokes & was one of the things that Judge mentioned in his rant to Luffy on Egghead. So rather than doing sudden 180 & suddenly wanting to become a King simply for the sake of making Luffy PK I think it okay for him to remain the way he is however also acknowledging that he has those kingly qualities & then not let it go to waste and direct it towards achieving something.
In the first place kingly qualities (CoC) is something you are born with but I don’t think you necessarily have to want to become a King to awaken it. Characters like Newgate or even Shanks don’t really covet stuff like for example and they are able to use it. Shanks in particular I think is very similar to Sanji in this aspect, he doesn’t really covet the throne but he’s one of the strongest CoC users in the series. So I think it’s a bit more nuanced something than simply wanting to become king.
In the first place kingly qualities (CoC) is something you are born with but I don’t think you necessarily have to want to become a King to awaken it. Characters like Newgate or even Shanks don’t really covet stuff like for example and they are able to use it. Shanks in particular I think is very similar to Sanji in this aspect, he doesn’t really covet the throne but he’s one of the strongest CoC users in the series. So I think it’s a bit more nuanced something than simply wanting to become king.
Reiju said in her monologue as the Vinsmoke's were held at gunpoint at the tea party that she resented the name vinsmoke but thanked sanji because her bloodline still had a conscience had at least one good thing come out of it and that was Sanji. Baratie being a floating restaurant and Germa being a floating kingdom is no coincidence. Sanji will restore the Vinsmoke name.
Uncrowned king is perfect tbh
Sanji being forced to use his kingly traits to eventually dethrone Judge's legacy and set a new meaning to Germa's existence in the future, to fulfil his ideals of world like not letting anyone starve. After making Luffy king of course, but as Gaban said, he needs to be a king to make Luffy the king. Zoro wants to be king, not only to honor Kuina and his own promise, but to honor Luffy's at the same time.
Having the good side of his origins in mind (Sora, Reiju and Colette), he needs to make justice for them and honor them.
Luffy also states he doesn't want to rule anything like a king usually does, he wants to be the most free, so it could work the same way for Sanji. His self depreciation due to what he went through and his despise for royalty and its deeds, or whatever that is, needs to be replaced by self promotion to honor the people that cheer for him and give a whole new meaning to his origins instead of merely running from any association with it.
I said it before and i will say it again: Shanks and Sanji are showing to be very similar.
Shanks isn't running from the responsability that he carries, he knows what his family is capable of, he knows his origins and knows what they aim for, but he isn't running from it, he wants to give it a new meaning.
Shanks once said he just wanted to be a "carefree pirate with Buggy", but something had to change
A real king doesn’t run from his responsabilities, he either embraces it or gives his best to come out at the top of it.
That said, uncrowned king sounds badass..
Sanji being forced to use his kingly traits to eventually dethrone Judge's legacy and set a new meaning to Germa's existence in the future, to fulfil his ideals of world like not letting anyone starve. After making Luffy king of course, but as Gaban said, he needs to be a king to make Luffy the king. Zoro wants to be king, not only to honor Kuina and his own promise, but to honor Luffy's at the same time.
Having the good side of his origins in mind (Sora, Reiju and Colette), he needs to make justice for them and honor them.
Luffy also states he doesn't want to rule anything like a king usually does, he wants to be the most free, so it could work the same way for Sanji. His self depreciation due to what he went through and his despise for royalty and its deeds, or whatever that is, needs to be replaced by self promotion to honor the people that cheer for him and give a whole new meaning to his origins instead of merely running from any association with it.
I said it before and i will say it again: Shanks and Sanji are showing to be very similar.
Shanks isn't running from the responsability that he carries, he knows what his family is capable of, he knows his origins and knows what they aim for, but he isn't running from it, he wants to give it a new meaning.
Shanks once said he just wanted to be a "carefree pirate with Buggy", but something had to change
A real king doesn’t run from his responsabilities, he either embraces it or gives his best to come out at the top of it.
That said, uncrowned king sounds badass..
