Character Discussion Kaido's fallen reputation

Kaido in Wano probably doesn't hold up completely horribly. He one shotted g4 Luffy without going all out, and eventually did demonstrate some pretty good feats through the arc. Generally, he did look better than the (awakened) Gorosei generally did in Egghead, which is a pretty big deal given that they're the definition of EOS powercreep characters, with awakening, various Imu boosts, centuries of experience etc. Even Blackbeard hasn't really looked better so far, and he's obviously final villain material. Imcel is the exception, but generally Kaido is going to remain pretty relevant against even most EOS characters. If he came back, I don't think he would get reduced to the mecha frieza treatment.

It's really Big Mom who kind of aged pretty badly in relation to EOS stuff.
 
Mihawk by portrayal is extremely close or equal to Ryuma, or even above. I have no doubt that anyone called a "god" like Sun God, Warrior God, Sword God and etc are stronger than mere Emperor like Kaido. Akainu and Dragon seem to be opponents in the final war. I see them equal.
Eh Mihawk is below WSM old WB by portrayal and ryuma is standard top tier. People of wano compared Luffy to ryuma for example.
 
Kaido has lost reputation not because of power cliff that happened ( only idiots would think he really was the strongest at any point of this manga ) , but because his words and in universe knowledge turned out to be complete garbage.
1. his " top 5 " is laughable

We know now Garp is trully equal to Roger yet he is not included in his list .

Loki with his DF and Ragnir straight up murders Kaido

Mihawk superior to Shanks is not on the list

2. World does not need 2 dragons to Momo .

Laughable statement right now.

3. Dragon Kaido size especially his flaming torch made people respect him for that.

Dragon Loki shits and dwarfs all of that .

4. Only Haki can transcend all

Imu , Joyboy , Nidhogg , EOS Blackbeard , Luffy, Loki .

No its pretty clear you need god like devil fruit to reach certain power levels.

Xebec destroyed any illusion of this when he stated he needs 2 devil fruits to take on the world.


Dude lost reputation with his fake statements .

Lost his aura when Loki dwarfed him in size , physical strength , AP , DC , haki strength , replicating his feet of falling from the clouds as baby.

Lost his strength relevancy moment he got powercliffed by DR Xebec , HK Harald , Loki , Imu , . . .
 
Imu, Joyboy, Davy Jones
Elbaf the War God, Ryuma




Domi Reversi Xebec

Mihawk, Shanks, Loki, Deep Seal Harald

Roger, Whitebeard, Xebec, Garp

Teach, Akainu, Kuzan, Dragon, Luffy

Harald, Rayleigh, Gaban, Shiki, Sengoku, Kaido, Big Mom, Old Garp, Old Whitebeard

Kizaru, Old Rayleigh, Old Gaban, Old Sengoku, Greenbull, Fujitora
Switch Gaban behind Big Kom and old WB ahead old Garp & its a Perfect list.
 
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Eh Mihawk is below WSM old WB by portrayal and ryuma is standard top tier. People of wano compared Luffy to ryuma for example.
Everyone was below WSM old WB including Shanks. But now I'm sure Shanks is prime Roger level. Mihawk his equal by portayal or even above. They are both stronger than old WB.

Ryuma is not standard top-tier. It's about Emperors like Kaido/BM or Admirals. Ryuma is a god-tier character by portrayal who was compared to Joy Boy (not Luffy) by citizens of Wano.
 
Everyone was below WSM old WB including Shanks. But now I'm sure Shanks is prime Roger level. Mihawk his equal by portayal or even above. They are both stronger than old WB.

Ryuma is not standard top-tier. It's about Emperors like Kaido/BM or Admirals. Ryuma is a god-tier character by portrayal who was compared to Joy Boy (not Luffy) by citizens of Wano.
We do not know about shanks but my point is titles are not absolute so saying mihawk is above makes no sense. If you are sticking with title scaling then you will need to admit Old WB was the strongest.

No. People of wano compared luffy to ryuma not the OG joyboy. Luffy refused momo to give his name hence momo used joyboy as a name.
 
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