THE FINAL: SPAIN OR ARGENTINA WHO IS WINNING!?


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Whoa, if you are willing to neglect stats then discussions will be hella difficult, since I consider stats important.

For me, as a striker, Prime R9 is obviously better than Lewa, Suarez, and Benzema since he has two World Cups and they collectively have none. Ronaldo's legacy is built more through his national team than his Clubs, anyway.

No disrespect to Titi, but Ronaldinho was nowhere near Messi or CR7, whom Mbappe had to contend with (including Messi in this World Cup) since Mbappe's arrival to superstardom in 2018.
R9 has only one World Cup title. He was on the bench during the 1994 WC, iirc he didn't play a single minute.

Statistics and trophies are "irrelevant" because I am talking about who the best footballer is.

I have considered Messi the best player I’ve ever seen since as far back as 2009. It wouldn't matter to me at all whether he ended his career with zero international titles or with just one UCL trophy.

Ronaldinho’s career was short-lived because he was lazy, but judging purely by his footballing ability, he wasn't all that far off from the greatests of all time.
 
We'll see. I think you are underestimsting his popularity,the power of Real Madrid,and his achievement
There is only one instance in modern football history where a player won the balondor without winning a single trophy during the year, Cristiano in 2013.
At the time there was neither Euros nor a World Cup and Bayern had won the Champions League, and the award likely wasn't given to Ribéry because he wasn't considered a "star."

This year is completely different.
There is no chance for Kylian winning this one.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
How can you say he threw his reputation in the trash? He literally carried this team to the finals, without the referee constantly helping Argentina out and letting their players commit fouls freely and calling criminal offsides to cancel their opponents goals, Argentina wouldn't get past eight finals lol

He leaves Argentina team as vice champion.
Fixed it for ya.

We warned that this team is made of garbage humans. Messi included.

Now the whole world knows.
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