General & Others Will Zoro forge a black blade against Sommers

#21
Its obvious KoH is not enough for this version of Sommers, so I can see Asura coming into play here. Zoro's cpntrol over CoC should allow him to consciously infuse Asura with ACoC.
 

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#22
@Albino πŸ‘‘ Still a :Bugs_No:
This changes everything Bino chan.
Black blade against one of the most legendary sword is worth it.
No, nothing changes. Stop reacting from chapter to chapter and look at the big picture.

No. Zoro will defeat Sommer by learning to property control his ACoC. He still lacks control of ACoC and is instinctively using it.
There should be no issue with Zoro's aCoC.
He just used it with Dragon Damnation and it achieved nothing.
It means aCoC is not the problem. Something else is a problem, likely Gram's unique ability and Zoro has to deal with that.
And the only way, from what I see, is Joyboy/Shanks haki burst to negate Gram's ability and at the same time turn off Omen and HK buff.
so I can see Asura coming into play here.
Asura wouldnt help here...
...is it too much to expect yall to understand that? :milaugh:
 
#23
No, nothing changes. Stop reacting from chapter to chapter and look at the big picture.
It's the sword lol.
If my theory on it's ability is right, that sword is taking anything thrown at it.
Zoro will either increase the AP to a point it sword can't take it, which is already above Loki Dual ragna Heim + AdCoC, or Turn a black blade to make something of similar sort for defense.

If not, then People ain't ready for black blade upscale if black blade will be bigger power up than Gram.
 

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#24
It's the sword lol.
If my theory on it's ability is right, that sword is taking anything thrown at it.
Zoro will either increase the AP to a point it sword can't take it, which is already above Loki Dual ragna Heim + AdCoC, or Turn a black blade to make something of similar sort for defense.

If not, then People ain't ready for black blade upscale if black blade will be bigger power up than Gram.
There is one thing you and all other swordbros need to understand, Kokuto is a power-up against Mihawk and Mihawk alone.
Never settle for anything less than that. This is the supreme ability in the show and you would accept it vs shit like Sommers? Please...

Also, if it really is Gram's ability, there is only one counter - turn that ability off. Joyboy/Shanks haki burst is the way to go.
There is no doubt about Black Blade being a bigger power-up than Gram. Gram is merely a warm-up for the supreme Sword Piece.
 

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#26
I don't think so Haki can switch off it's ability.
It switched off each of Elders' Devil Fruit as well as the pentragram that teleported them there...
...and if you remember the >Haki conquers everything, there is nothing a haki burst cant turn off.
 
#27
Zoro will get something BETTER than Black Blades against Mihawk to cement himself as the greatest swordsman of all time. Oda can easily introduce something new that even Mihawk wouldn't be aware of and describe that as the true pinnacle of swordsmanship

That would be far more hype tbh. I want to see King of hell: asura or black blade Enma so badly, idc if it's to hypetool Sommers
 
#29
Now that we can revisit this properly, the question becomes: how does having a black blade help against Gram exactly? Even if Zoro wields Shusui now, he'd still gotten overpowered by that Gram clash. And it's not like black blade can cut everything either (Mihawk couldn't cut Jozu and Buggy, for example).
Well, if really is BB the upgrade here (which is gonna be insanely funny) there is gonna be some special property oda gonna retcon that is activable or something i imagine

That or its something boring like rest of Zoros PU as in "it can cut better now" and it can overpower Bummers back or something
 
#31
first they said zoro will forge on in wano, and now they saying he gonna forge it against sommers, are we just gonna do this everytime until is happens?

What is this bullshit? do you know what a black blade is? you think it's gonna be achieved by clashing here and there with an omen boosted leech wielding a mythical sword?

Maybe at best it can start the process, but it won't finish it. If this is what it's required for Zoro to even begin that process then it still makes sense why Ryuuma forged it over countless battles
 
#32
I would say no for now but that's his next huge power-up. I think this fight Zoro will simply refine his ACoC and involve Ashura.
A black blade isn't supposed to be a power-up it is the achievement. Zoro isn't going to be stronger when he makes a black blade but rather the result of him being that strong.
 
#33
Now that we can revisit this properly, the question becomes: how does having a black blade help against Gram exactly? Even if Zoro wields Shusui now, he'd still gotten overpowered by that Gram clash. And it's not like black blade can cut everything either (Mihawk couldn't cut Jozu and Buggy, for example).
Special blades have special abilities and I believe forging a black blade can be a power up for the blade and the user

If Zoro sacrifices a part of himself to his blade I think it will not only make it permanently black but give Zoro himself the blades power
For example if he made enma black I think he’d be able to siphon haki from others same way the blade is able to do to him
 
#34
I suppose it's possible, but I feel about it the same way about Sanji unlocking Conqueror's Haki.

These two losers are carried entirely by Imu's powers. If they didn't have any Omen Buffs or the Covenant, even Enies Lobby era Sanji and Zoro could handle them.

So, it's rather bittersweet.
 
#35
Well, if really is BB the upgrade here (which is gonna be insanely funny) there is gonna be some special property oda gonna retcon that is activable or something i imagine

That or its something boring like rest of Zoros PU as in "it can cut better now" and it can overpower Bummers back or something
@Albino πŸ‘‘ made a fair point below.

Special blades have special abilities and I believe forging a black blade can be a power up for the blade and the user

If Zoro sacrifices a part of himself to his blade I think it will not only make it permanently black but give Zoro himself the blades power
For example if he made enma black I think he’d be able to siphon haki from others same way the blade is able to do to him
That Haki Absorption you mentioned is interesting, ngl, but again, how would that help against Sommers who is fueled by Omen and not haki?
 
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