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He already disobeyed Akainu actinf orders.

Luffy was alongside Law and kidd and same bounty as him.
Nerfed, they had a all out battle vs Kaido and Big Mom.
Aramaki gone their to kill them while they been healing, Shanks even know that..

Facing a health Yonkou and his entire crew(Shanks) without a backup is a suicide mission, even Aramaki knows it.

Their is no proof that King hadn´t his lunarian power when he fought Aramaki, we saw just the last page where he was down getting pierced by Aramaki, couldn´t move.

The result would be the same even if he was health, Aramaki would crush him, even Yamato couldn´t resist his vines.
 
Anything but answering the question sentinal chan.
What different did sommers use?
Are you serious man? 😂

Look up the chapters how quickly Imu destroyed both Sanji and Zoro with very casual Omen moves while 2 Holy Jobbers needed 2 massive PUs to overpower both in a more serious battle.

Putting Sommers AND Imu in the same realm is an insult atp, yet you'd bitch if I remotely brought Admirals into it. Heck, you were already bitching when I compared Loki with HK Harald or DR Xebec, now you're doing it with a fodder like Sommers. 😭
 
Size is only due to scale required to block it, not 'extra strong because it's extra big lmao'.
The size is not the question here.
More like the range of the attack and scaling of the move. That shit would kill Sommers on spot.


Does she have Zoro skill and Haki? No
Yes let say she gets the same haki power(that is stupid to begin with it but let play with your shitty logic).

Is Tashigi's sword swing as strong as Zoro one if both had the same haki and sword?


What Imu is showing isn't even his peak, but low tier stuff.
Based on what?
I mean even if he is using low tier stuff, it would be still enough to clapp Sommers and co.

He had Zoro lying in pain down with simple boggers. Yet against Sommers, Zoro was ready to fighting back.

Luffy with his lower end attacks, can still beat any strawhats except Zoro and Sanji.

Your logic is so wrong mate.
 
Nerfed, they had a all out battle vs Kaido and Big Mom.
Aramaki gone their to kill them while they been healing, Shanks even know that..
:suresure::suresure:
Oh no.
So Luffy and Co were still healing but King was already healed and fit to fight.
:ihaha::ihaha:


Facing a health Yonkou and his entire crew(Shanks) without a backup is a suicide mission, even Aramaki knows it.
But you just said gap between top tier and commanders are always neg diff.
They should be collateral damage for aramaki and shanks.

Their is no proof that King hadn´t his lunarian power when he fought Aramaki, we saw just the last page where he was down getting pierced by Aramaki, couldn´t move.
And there is no proof that he did lol.
All we saw was him attacked with vine and still not sucked out like rest of the people.


The result would be the same even if he was health, Aramaki would crush him, even Yamato couldn´t resist his vines.
Choose your own red pill lmao.
If even healthy commanders are fodders.
Everything would have boiled down to Shanks vs Aramaki lol.
:risisure:
Are you serious man? 😂

Look up the chapters how quickly Imu destroyed both Sanji and Zoro with very casual Omen moves while 2 Holy Jobbers needed 2 massive PUs to overpower both in a more serious battle.

Putting Sommers AND Imu in the same realm is an insult atp, yet you'd bitch if I remotely brought Admirals into it. Heck, you were already bitching when I compared Loki with HK Harald or DR Xebec, now you're doing it with a fodder like Sommers. 😭
Blud is not even reading at this point. I'm not even surprised lmao.
 
The size is not the question here.
More like the range of the attack and scaling of the move. That shit would kill Sommers on spot.
It won't. Not the current sommers at the very least lol.
One of the sword which subjugated the world with Maki. Would fuckin block that attack.
Yes let say she gets the same haki power(that is stupid to begin with it but let play with your shitty logic).

Is Tashigi's sword swing as strong as Zoro one if both had the same haki and sword?
Which boils down to skills now tykki chan.
But Gram is literally the heirloom of Shepherd family, you're telling me he can't use it lol.

And yes lol, Same Haki and Same sword would output the same results.


Based on what?
I mean even if he is using low tier stuff, it would be still enough to clapp Sommers and co.
Previous sommers absokutely lol.

Not the current one.


He had Zoro lying in pain down with simple boggers. Yet against Sommers, Zoro was ready to fighting back.
Only difference being Zoro was attacked by Imu, Sommers didn't lol.
Rather he overpowered and sent him back flying.
In case of Imu, it was Zoro who sent the Tail away with the clash and Imu countered him with Omen bullets at point blank range lol.


Not only that it's confirmed to be Steel lol. If it was one of the 19 weapons. It's GG for you people lmao.

Luffy with his lower end attacks, can still beat any strawhats except Zoro and Sanji.

Your logic is so wrong mate.
Your logic isn't even making sense lmao.

If Luffy gives let's say 1/5th of gear 5 powers and Haki to crew mates. Are lower end technique now bothering the crew?
 
First off, here's the thing: FS can be countered by superior speed, who can tell me for sure that King with his flames off can't outpace Katakuri's FS? Dude, Kaido was doing exactly that the whole time against Luffy, he was wrecking Luffy who was using FS non stop, without even using his own FS on the rooftop, with nothing but pure attack speed, movement and reflexes. He was only forced to use FS once because Luffy caught him off guard while he was having a flashback and lost focus, which makes it debatable what would've happened if he hadn't been caught by surprise.


It's also pretty wild to just assume King has to keep his flames on the whole time and take hits nonstop until Katakuri runs out of steam or his FS weakens. Who can prove that King with flames off can't reach the same result? Even without the flames we're talking about a Lunarian plus an ancient Zoan combo, that's more than enough to tank everything Katakuri's got. He can just straight up sacrifice his invincibility and still be able to withstand just as well, no problem, which makes the fight really tough for Katakuri, because with flames on Katakuri can't deal damage, and even with flames off King is still able to withstand and tank. And if his speed in off mode, both attack and movement, is able to outpace FS, then it's gg.
 
I was like "why the fuck is this thread trending again?"

Then I remembered Sommers tanking the attack that ruined King and was like "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH RECEIPTS"
I mean to be fair he got two amps from Imu and at this point is reasonably stronger than anyone on Big Mom's crew bar Big Mom herself, but for the sake of laughing at delusional Zoro fans I thin k we should ignore that
 
Ironically V2 Bee is nigh untouchable. He's got that chakra shroud who is > diamond in durability, gives him amazing strength and speed. He could solo Tottoland up until Linlin
Does the fact that Oda refused to give Shiryu the diamond fruit, and Mihawk never could cut Jozu imply that even EOS OP characters aren't strong enough to break through diamond?
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
First off, here's the thing: FS can be countered by superior speed, who can tell me for sure that King with his flames off can't outpace Katakuri's FS? Dude, Kaido was doing exactly that the whole time against Luffy, he was wrecking Luffy who was using FS non stop, without even using his own FS on the rooftop, with nothing but pure attack speed, movement and reflexes. He was only forced to use FS once because Luffy caught him off guard while he was having a flashback and lost focus, which makes it debatable what would've happened if he hadn't been caught by surprise.


It's also pretty wild to just assume King has to keep his flames on the whole time and take hits nonstop until Katakuri runs out of steam or his FS weakens. Who can prove that King with flames off can't reach the same result? Even without the flames we're talking about a Lunarian plus an ancient Zoan combo, that's more than enough to tank everything Katakuri's got. He can just straight up sacrifice his invincibility and still be able to withstand just as well, no problem, which makes the fight really tough for Katakuri, because with flames on Katakuri can't deal damage, and even with flames off King is still able to withstand and tank. And if his speed in off mode, both attack and movement, is able to outpace FS, then it's gg.
I am convinced that King can wreck any Charlotte in 1vs1 and that includes BM as he is better than her in literally every single thing but there is no point for King to engage 1vs1 with anyone here as the point is to sink the entire empire in most effective way and that is aerial supremacy, bombarding them with Imperial Dragons, Imperial Slings and Arrows, Imperial Deep Stake and if anyone gets close to prevent him from sinking them, just Jackpot them all into afterlife.
It is ridiculous how easily King could accomplish this, all thanks to incompetent Charlottes.
Also, the easiest way to rekt Katakuri is AoE, one Jackpot seals the deal, there is no morphing around it.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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People were saying even post-Omen that King is still stronger
This is because people have been memeing on the Knights of God so much, they cannot separate the twitter slander from the manga. They're shocked and unable to believe that Sommers was never weak and now he's a top tier.
Does the fact that Oda refused to give Shiryu the diamond fruit, and Mihawk never could cut Jozu imply that even EOS OP characters aren't strong enough to break through diamond?
I don't think Oda ever considered the diamond fruit tbh.
 
This is because people have been memeing on the Knights of God so much, they cannot separate the twitter slander from the manga. They're shocked and unable to believe that Sommers was never weak and now he's a top tier.

I don't think Oda ever considered the diamond fruit tbh.
The Blackbeard pirates were stealing devil fruits and unlike Marco, Jozu never showed up again. So it would have been a good way to establish that Zoro could cut diamond like Mr 1 said.....

but since that's never going to happen, we can't really be sure EOS Zoro can beat Kakazu.
 
The Blackbeard pirates were stealing devil fruits and unlike Marco, Jozu never showed up again. So it would have been a good way to establish that Zoro could cut diamond like Mr 1 said.....

but since that's never going to happen, we can't really be sure EOS Zoro can beat Kakazu.
He’s losing to Kakuzu regardless of his ability to cut diamond. Base Kakuzu was already handling a black blade user, Raido
 
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