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I have no doubt that any yonko apart from goofy would perform MUCH BETTER against Imu than Gaban did

If Gaban shot haki kamehamehas then yonkos would launch haki spirit bombs atp cuz Imu is the bonafide punching bag of Elbaf arc, just like how HK limbs are jelly thanks to regen
Maybe in Two Piece where the man who beat Kaido didn't get lol diffed by Imu.
 
If harjuden could send imu like this
Zolo koh attack would have killed imu and i am not exaggerating .

Gabban is strong but he is that much
Its imu who oda tricked us he is beyond others but he isn't.


@Fujishiro

Prime roger would have killed this bum
Prime roucks would done better as well.
Imu is washed
The fact that he's poorly written doesn't change the fact that he's the strongest character Gaban ever met

He should be a good bit stronger than Prime Roger, like low diff or at worst mid.
 
Oda always puts storytelling first.
When he needs hype, he makes it happen, even through unrealistic means. You just have to notice the pattern and spot those moments.
When the gang was riding a hype wave because >muh Imu is negging God Valley 6, I said that was unrealistic but people didnt listen. Now they are paying the price because their expectations werent met. I said there was no power creep last chapter when old man ruined everything, they thought I was joking...
Hajrudin enjoyed favourable circumstance, his feat is as it should be.
Imu's explosions are weak, we knew that when everyone brushed them off without any major damaji, they are just weaker than we predicted.
People need to understand one thing - just because it is coming from Imu, it doesnt mean it is strong.
:PepeChad: , u were right al along
:Woro
 
Bro, Blackbeard got clowned by Sulong Bepo, that isn't better. πŸ˜‚
But I guess it's less annoying to see cuz Blackbeard was always written like that while Imu's introduction was about him aura farming and overpowering every opponent with 0 difficulty, even tail diffed a KoH move.
The thing about Sulong Wepo sneak is it was done after Blackbeard was done fighting Walfalgar Waw, whom Oda respects very much and is solidly a low top tier fighter by any relevant measure (DF, haki)

Yup Blackbeard is careless no doubt. But Imu getting sent flying by Hajrudin is like Goofy getting blitzed by Usopp. And then getting his counterattack blocked. It's genuinely disrespect of the highest caliber
 
Oda had 10 years to make Imu, couldn't even make a villain as cool as Alabasta Crocodile. It's actually amazing when you think about it
I think Imu isn't bad when it comes to writing. I enjoy how Imu constantly has that "holier than thou" attitude towards his opponents, like when he expressed that Harald's death affected him the most in front of Harald's own son lol. But as well written Imu is, it does leave massive disappointment when Oda throws all this characterisation away just because some characters can shine for a bit... when it doesn't even make sense.

I criticized dying old Gaban forcing Imu to use his 2nd transformation but it was bearable atp. It also makes sense considering Gaban put his all into this one attack and lost an arm in result. It doesn't mean much that he was standing up again, when Gaban clearly intented to sacrifice himself.

Things got messy when Hajrudin joins the battle, punches 2nd form Imu, stronger than the one beating the shit out of Luffy, Loki and Gaban, to the Adam Tree and take an Omen explosion from said Imu as well.
 
Chapter so bad, people ain't even looking at Luffy recovering almost instantly after wating food. Earlier he used to be gone for a solid while to recover even after eating food. Now it's nearly light speed recovery lmao.

Two god swords, stabbed in. But he recovers because he ate food.
:risisure:

We need to blame ourself guys, We gave oda the pass when he could avoid flame based attacks because he has guts.
 
Oda always puts storytelling first.
When he needs hype, he makes it happen, even through unrealistic means. You just have to notice the pattern and spot those moments.
When the gang was riding a hype wave because >muh Imu is negging God Valley 6, I said that was unrealistic but people didnt listen. Now they are paying the price because their expectations werent met. I said there was no power creep last chapter when old man ruined everything, they thought I was joking...
Hajrudin enjoyed favourable circumstance, his feat is as it should be.
Imu's explosions are weak, we knew that when everyone brushed them off without any major damaji, they are just weaker than we predicted.
People need to understand one thing - just because it is coming from Imu, it doesnt mean it is strong.
They laughed at me for Jackpot > Imu explosions.
:ihaha::ihaha:
How are the turned tables now?
 
Luffy got one shotted by thunder bagua but later proceeded to tank them.
Even that was explained! Luffy went on a physical training in Udon prison and he received Lv. 3 CoA. That was the same PU like Rayleigh before ACoC was introduced.

So yes, it makes sense that Luffy could take attacks like TB way better now.
Same with Ragnarok which koed Luffy before but after coating his attacks and body with CoC, he even started to take these better.

Yet here, Oda isn't even trying anymore. The asspull isn't even about the strawhats btw.
 
Honestly though, shouldn't imu be kinda shit? This is like his first time interacting with characters physically in like 800+ years.

I think he is going to look weaker and weaker as Luffy figures his shit out or imu is going to be like Luffy and his battle IQ will make him highly adaptable to Luffy a progression. I don't view there being much inbetween that.

Imu is the ceiling of presence and power in a sense, it is up to how he deals with Luffy "levelling up" mid fight. In that regard I think imu has reached his own peak and Luffy just needs fo surpass that, which he always fukn does
 
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