Salem of Lies Throne Of Lies: The WG War

[Zemmi]

understandable, and hope you read me better next game. all g

I read you just fine right before you murdered me. At least you were honest and told the game you planned to kill me. They just ignored our convo.

Btw you didn't answer a question I asked you earlier.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I read you just fine right before you murdered me. At least you were honest and told the game you planned to kill me. They just ignored our convo.

Btw you didn't answer a question I asked you earlier.

by all means if you're good at reading me you're failing to do it here. you gotta be able to read me as both alignments, not guess scum every game and hope it's correct

and which question?

 

[Reborn]

hey reborn i've already talked about why i am not claiming

ToL is mechanic based but not in day 1. this is the closest i'll be to being able to play mafia and so i'll play it as such

you're free to not believe that i refuse to claim as town. that is your right.

im also free to believe that i've provided adequate enough content to where i can be found town from, without needing to claim. that's also my right

i don't ask for claims from people that i can read from the thread unless they have made too many mistakes such as killing townies, and even then i resort to reading their posts over claim. i only really demand claims strongly when it's a player that is very low activity and we don't have enough content to read them via threadplay. in that case a claim can be informative to gain something from the slot

Let's assume everyone is wrong and you are right.

Let's assume people are sussing you for wrong reasons and you are right. And, of course you have great deal of experience.

And, yes town might be totally off with you

However you are willing to waste town's time to take this to guillotine to claim at the end which doesn't add up.

If you are blue dragon then for you it shouldn't be about ego that I want to teach town a lesson but what can I do to aid town.

Even if you think everyone got it wrong then just based on your immense experience you should guide it by resolving your slot via claim but instead you are making it worse.

Why don't you claim and shut everyone's mouth?

 

[Zemmi]

by all means if you're good at reading me you're failing to do it here. you gotta be able to read me as both alignments, not guess scum every game and hope it's correct

and which question?

Does the word scorned mean anything to you?

 

[Udell]

Me too

I want to go back to lurking lol

 

[Reborn]

No I'm talking about the roles themselves.

Like the Alchemist has all these abilities, but it's only wincon is to survive. Like they just don't make sense together.

For a survivor wincon? Yes they don't.

But for gameplay purpose? His abilities can be handy

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Let's assume everyone is wrong and you are right.

Let's assume people are sussing you for wrong reasons and you are right. And, of course you have great deal of experience.

And, yes town might be totally off with you

However you are willing to waste town's time to take this to guillotine to claim at the end which doesn't add up.

If you are blue dragon then for you it shouldn't be about ego that I want to teach town a lesson but what can I do to aid town.

Even if you think everyone got it wrong then just based on your immense experience you should guide it by resolving your slot via claim but instead you are making it worse.

Why don't you claim and shut everyone's mouth?

i understand what u r saying but i personally think giving in to the demands = zero learning values for the collective. i don't want that. im thinking long term here. there need to be some consequences for bad play. if it means we lose then we lose. next time we'll be more careful not to repeat it

i think the best think to do to aid town is in fact teach them a lesson, be it for this game or future ones. i mean look at last game. we do need lots of lessons my friend

some need lessons in collaborations, others need lesson in not omgusing, others need lessons in analyzing the posts of the person they are suspecting and seeing if it makes sense as either alignment, and some just need to stop playing lazy or hunting based on silly stuff

everybody can take something from a misyeet, including me ofc. next time i'll maybe play a bit differently, or maybe not. but that's a lesson for me too in some ways

 

[Udell]

I’m going to sleep, if the votes reach 10 please stop posting until I wake up.​

Hosts are not allowed to sleep

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

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sure

 

[Udell]

Pride truly is Evil...

Imma head out, yall have a good night.

 

[Reborn]

i understand what u r saying but i personally think giving in to the demands = zero learning values for the collective. i don't want that. im thinking long term here. there need to be some consequences for bad play. if it means we lose then we lose. next time we'll be more careful not to repeat it

i think the best think to do to aid town is in fact teach them a lesson, be it for this game or future ones. i mean look at last game. we do need lots of lessons my friend

some need lessons in collaborations, others need lesson in not omgusing, others need lessons in analyzing the posts of the person they are suspecting and seeing if it makes sense as either alignment, and some just need to stop playing lazy or hunting based on silly stuff

everybody can take something from a misyeet, including me ofc. next time i'll maybe play a bit differently, or maybe not. but that's a lesson for me too in some ways

Nah

Your primary responsibility here isn't to teach anyone a lesson though. Your duty is to play as per your wincon and clear yourself to prevent your mislynch or prevent wasting entire day. Your refusal to do so is bad play and comes with costing town a player.

And you do realize it's convenient play from scums. Scums when under sus often refuse to claim to prevent Town from testing the claim and maintain ambiguity.

Your play irks of the latter.

 

[Polar Bear]

@EkkoLoJinx

Please claim and give us some scum reads and resuming behind those reads

 

[Polar Bear]

@EkkoLoJinx

Please claim and give us some scum reads and resuming behind those reads

*reasoning behind those reads

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

it'd probably be good for yall to solve for who else u think is scum and solve beyond my flip

i.e if im town where wud u go. u can start discussing that now and get a headstart before my flip

 

[Reborn]

@Zemmi @Ali v2 do you guys think it's difficult to fake claim in TOL?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

@EkkoLoJinx

Please claim and give us some scum reads and resuming behind those reads

ive already responded to a request like this recently

the claim will not come until trial. you guys voted me, i didn't ask to be voted. the voters ought to take some responsiblity and there ought to be some concequences

as for reads, i had a poe of 5 earlier but im afraid that most of those reads r wrong and i dont wanna lead town down a bad legacy so im rescinding them all. my advice is just start fresh tomorrow

 

[Reborn]

@EkkoLoJinx tell me your class

 

[Zemmi]

@Zemmi @Ali v2 do you guys think it's difficult to fake claim in TOL?

I think it should be very similar to ToS. Unless fake claims are given, then it might be easier.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Nah

Your primary responsibility here isn't to teach anyone a lesson though. Your duty is to play as per your wincon and clear yourself to prevent your mislynch or prevent wasting entire day. Your refusal to do so is bad play and comes with costing town a player.

And you do realize it's convenient play from scums. Scums when under sus often refuse to claim to prevent Town from testing the claim and maintain ambiguity.

Your play irks of the latter.

no, as scum i'll intentionally claim just to survive and teach town a lesson in reverse. they had me correctly and let me go via claim.

as town i'll just accept the noose, which is what im doing now

there are many ways to play for one's wincon. for instance, if town starts a wagon elsewhere that i like i wouldn't mind self pressing and i will continue playing as i am now by questioning people and creating meaningful interactions

it's not like i want to get lynched. believe me i want to live more than robin did in enies lobby. but i also don't want to do it in a lazy cheap claiming manner. what's the point of mafia if i can just claim my way out of a misyeet.

i'll reflect on whatever happen today and either change the way i play as town, or force the others to adapt to it. eitherway after 100s of mislynches like this surely either me or town will change

 

[Reborn]

I think it should be very similar to ToS. Unless fake claims are given, then it might be easier.

What do you think about ekko?