Speculations Superpositions: Nika wasn't a retcon

Logiko

Logiko

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#82
#82
Impact said:
The Rubber Fruit being a Mythic Fruit that encompassed the same properties?

That's a coincidence, pal.

It's an absurd mind-bending level of coincidence, but a coincidence nonetheless.
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What are you even talking about. You do not make any sense here


:choppawhat:


Impact said:
Even if you guys don't buy the whole "retcons can be explained by superpositions" thing you should still understand what a superposition is
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I know what superposition is. But you are trying to mix two completely different topics that have nothing to do with each others in the context of the subject that is G5/Nika.
 
Logiko

Logiko

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#86
#86
Impact said:
Assuming malice or a blunder is lazy, that's the real point I'm trying to make.

It's extremely lazy criticism.
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But.. I'm not criticizing G5 mate. I'm telling you that it is an AMAZING revelation.

An amazing revelation that stands on a storytelling tool that we call "retcon". Constructed on years of subtle hints and foreshadowings and thematic building.

A positive retcon is not a blunder, not coincidence, it is the result of a planned construction from writers. Leading often to amazing revelations and recontextualizations.
 
Impact

Impact

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#90
#90
And don't get me started on Sasuke's Rinnegan

It's even more lazy!

Oh, look, a conveniently placed rock! Let me displace my body and save the world.

That is such total garbage.
 
BoaHancocksHusband

BoaHancocksHusband

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#91
#91
Johnny B. Decent said:
When a plot point established early in a story is changed later.

For example:

"Naruto is a orphan with little talent and of no particular importance bar being a Jinchuriki" -> "Naruto is actually the son of the prior Kage and is a direct descendant of Ninja Jesus".

The nature of Luffy's power was established as a Paramecia and now it's not.
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“ "Naruto is a orphan with little talent and of no particular importance bar being a Jinchuriki" -> "Naruto is actually the son of the prior Kage and is a direct descendant of Ninja Jesus".” cap 🧢
 
Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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#98
#98
I believe two things:



1. The Nika reveal was garbage writing

2. It's impossible for Oda to not have had the reveal in his plan considering all the christian and devil themes associated with Kuma, the WG, the gorosei, and Imu, which appeared way before Wano



He planned the Nika fruit long before it happened, but the way he revealed it was just garbage writing
 
Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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#99
#99
Blax Blah said:
I believe two things:



1. The Nika reveal was garbage writing

2. It's impossible for Oda to not have had the reveal in his plan considering all the christian and devil themes associated with Kuma, the WG, the gorosei, and Imu, which appeared way before Wano



He planned the Nika fruit long before it happened, but the way he revealed it was just garbage writing
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I remember when the theories about the fruit were coming out, I was like


"Who's this Nika guy?"

"These luffy's fruit theories are slop"

Because there was nothing in the story pointing to it





Then boom

Nika fruit




The fruit fits in well with the overall world and the story focused on specifically after Wano, Imu, the history, etc



But the way it was introduced was nonsense
 
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