The irony here is that you are not realizing that Israel and the US are actually far right governement denouncing the "great replacement" in Europe. Literally, using Ceuta, antisemitic and islamophobic propaganda against, muslim and migrants themselve to destabilize the west, especially Spain, Italy and France.
If you’re talking about propaganda, I’ll agree with you there, they are pushing Islamophobia. But it’s to further support for Israel, not destabilize the west.

but Israel is not responsible for (most) refugees fleeing to Europe like @CoC: Color of Clowns suggested


Israel is literally lobbying in every country in the west to push their propaganda. We have lobbies here in France that have ties up to freaking ministers.

I think you do not understanding that what people are denouncing is not the usual antisemitic trope of "jew being in position of power everywhere". No. That is indeed antisemitic.

What we are denouncing is the DOCUMENTED overwhelming presence of one settler colony's governments and lobbies in the political affairs of ALL countries of the west. Starting with the US and France.
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Is it actually Israel itself that’s doing this, or western Zionists? In America at least, it’s largely American Zionists funding the lobby.


You are not realizing here that by taking the defenses of zionist you are actually the one spreading not only far right rethoric but cololnial one as well, thinking you are a rational centrist (like many people here who think they are rationnal by spreading racist and transphobic stuff everydays...)
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you and your buzzwords smh
 
If you’re talking about propaganda, I’ll agree with you there, they are pushing Islamophobia. But it’s to further support for Israel, not destabilize the west.
Yes they do. It's actually quite obvious and documented. There are literally interferences with elections mate. Destabilizing the west IS a way to push their interests. That's is why they NEED the far right to come to power. They know that if the left rises in Europe, they are cooked.

That is the point of Ceuta, that is the point of the interference in France's election and left group, that is point in Israel's support for far right, that is the point of their lobbying in french politics.


s it actually Israel itself that’s doing this, or western Zionists?
Both.

Israel's gov is directly involved in funding zionist propaganda in the west while zionist in the west are acting as foreign agent directly on the field. It's a very well oiled strategy mate, they have been working on it very openly for the last 30 years.

The only difference now, is that Gaza woke up the world from a long slumber. I myself remember seeing the image of settlers harrasing and attacking palestinian as far as 2010 and being completely brainwashed by the propaganda machine that Israel was justn facing terrorism... and I knew absolutely NOTHING about the conflict. It's deep mate. Not as in "deep state", as in deeply rooted in the imperialism machine.

Israel is not ruling the world. Israel is a TOOL for the west to conquer and subjugate the entire region.

This is a mutual relationship:

Western imperialism needs Israel to accaparate the ressources of the region and have a strategic advantage to avoid a rise of power of China, Iran and Russia and Israel needs the imperialism of the west to survive and push its zionist project.

As such, the west allows Israel to keep a form of power in its own system while making sure they abide by imperialist rules. In the current configuration, as soon as imperialism falls, Israel falls. This is why Netanyahou always mentions that Israel is the last standing barrier of civilization, it is a usage of the great replacement theory but through an imperialist framework. What they are actually saying is not only that they are the only one who can stop "the savage" as the racist they are, it is also that the west will lose its biggest strategical outpost and advantage over the rest of ther super-powers.

I repeat: This is also why Israel is currently trying to spread its wing around Morroco and argentina. Netanyahou knows that if the US and Europe fall to leftists, it's game over. Not only will Israel be isolated completely, but the trials will start and the first pillar of the western imperialism risk to fall over. Not completely of course, but enough to completely shift the balance of the world.

China, is already on top. If leftism rises more than fascists, the world has a shot in shifting completely to the left and ending western imperialism for good. Next will be capitalism.


you and your buzzwords smh
Words are only buzzing for thoses who can't understand them.
 
Yes they do. It's actually quite obvious and documented. There are literally interferences with elections mate. Destabilizing the west IS a way to push their interests. That's is why they NEED the far right to come to power. They know that if the left rises in Europe, they are cooked.

That is the point of Ceuta, that is the point of the interference in France's election and left group, that is point in Israel's support for far right, that is the point of their lobbying in french politics.
Why the hell would they support mass migration to Europe? Most of these refugees come from Muslim countries and hate Israel.

all of the most die hard Zionists are anti-immigrant/refugee

The very fact Israel is allied with the far right debunks the idea that they’re also somehow pushing mass migration.

dude you seriously need to think critically about Israel/palestine stuff, because not everyone who hates Israel is actually progressive. A lot of them are antisemites and conspiracy theorists.

Yes, we both know there are many terrible things Israel is doing. But you are just giving them cover when you spread baseless nonsense like this. It detracts from the tangible things we know they are doing(Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, etc.)
 
Why the hell would they support mass migration to Europe? Most of these refugees come from Muslim countries and hate Israel.
Because the political spectrum of the world has slowly shifted to the far right everywhere in the last 30 years and as I explained Israel NEEDS imperialist in power to maintain its colonial project and imperialist needs Israel.

BUT

The rise of fascism combined with Trump, combined the development of political progressive internet bubbles, combined with the overusage of the neo-liberal authoririan politics.. has also created a conscious of class within the entire population of the world and a massive politicization in the span of a few years. Which is absolutely logical frankly, it will happen in every crisis of capitalism.

The problem for Israel right now, is that leftists (the radical kind) do not have the interest of Israel in mind, we want them to pay for their crimes. Worst, now that Israel has demonstrated its fascism and the world is rising against them, it absolutely needs to find a way to survive as a political weight in western societies. The only way to do that is to feed the ideology that aligns withs their islamophobic and colonial interests: the far right, centrists and conservatives..

By pushing and helping the far right in power in western country and by trying to destabilizes Europe both in their politics and elections, Israel and the US assures a form of polarization of these society and the shift of the center to the right... all at the advantage of their colonial interests. This is why you see Trump being the "biggest" ally of Israel, this is why you see centrist slowly drifting to the far right and being complicit with Israel (although this is not the only reason for their shift) this is why the far right, conservatives and centrists in france have so many tides with Israel. It's all calculated in order to make sure the left never creates a form of rupture within neoliberalism and imperialism.

If Israel loses France to LFI for example, the pressure created on Netanyahou by this left will be overwhelming and many country risk to follow Melenchon in the ban of Israel. This is a survival matter for the settler colony, they need the absolute support of the west, and they will use every tools they have to make it happen. Migrants included.

Anti-imperialism and anti-colonialism helps us understand these types of power relationships.

dude you seriously need to think critically about Israel/palestine stuff, because not everyone who hates Israel is actually progressive. A lot of them are antisemites and conspiracy theorists.
Yes, it's true.

But in this very case. Israel is indeed the center of the problem.
 
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There are strong documents, testimonies and reasons to think that Israel allowed October 7th to happen the way it did in order to have an excuze to bomb the shit out of Gaza once and for all. Netanyahou probably banked on the fact that the usual victim cries against Israel by the "barbaric hamas" would be enough for the world to allow him an ethnic cleansing and a genocide without remorse.

Unfortunately for him, he underestimated the Strengh and ressources of Palestinians, their organization and the politicization of a world that was already starting to radicalizes to the left. The world was already starting to wake up... but Gaza sped up that process x1000.

Now, it's too late to go back, the world bares witness of all the atrocities. We see, we know, we won't forget. Netanyahou has a cell already waiting for him and the accomplices of the massacre (perpetuators, politics, military, medias... of all countries) will be brought in front of the hague....

.. eventually.
 
Because the political spectrum of the world has slowly shifted to the far right everywhere in the last 30 years and as I explained Israel NEEDS imperialist in power to maintain its colonial project and imperialist needs Israel.

BUT

The rise of fascism combined with Trump, combined the development of political progressive internet bubbles, combined with the overusage of the neo-liberal authoririan politics.. has also created a conscious of class within the entire population of the world and a massive politicization in the span of a few years. Which is absolutely logical frankly, it will happen in every crisis of capitalism.

The problem for Israel right now, is that leftists (the radical kind) do not have the interest of Israel in mind, we want them to pay for their crimes. Worst, now that Israel has demonstrated its fascism and the world is rising against them, it absolutely needs to find a way to survive as a political weight in western societies. The only way to do that is to feed the ideology that aligns withs their islamophobic and colonial interests: the far right, centrists and conservatives..

By pushing and helping the far right in power in western country and by trying to destabilizes Europe both in their politics and elections, Israel and the US assures a form of polarization of these society and the shift of the center to the right... all at the advantage of their colonial interests. This is why you see Trump being the "biggest" ally of Israel, this is why you see centrist slowly drifting to the far right and being complicit with Israel (although this is not the only reason for their shift) this is why the far right, conservatives and centrists in france have so many tides with Israel. It's all calculated in order to make sure the left never creates a form of rupture within neoliberalism and imperialism.

If Israel loses France to LFI for example, the pressure created on Netanyahou by this left will be overwhelming and many country risk to follow Melenchon in the ban of Israel. This is a survival matter for the settler colony, they need the absolute support of the west, and they will use every tools they have to make it happen. Migrants included.

Anti-imperialism and anti-colonialism helps us understand these types of power relationships.


Yes, it's true.

But in this very case. Israel is indeed the center of the problem.
Israel is certainly taking advantage of the far right. It is not manufacturing the far right, however.

migration to Europe is driven by numerous causes such as poverty, climate change, crime, and civil wars.

hyper fixating on Israel in this regard is just antisemitic scapegoating imo
 
There are strong documents, testimonies and reasons to think that Israel allowed October 7th to happen the way it did in order to have an excuze to bomb the shit out of Gaza once and for all. Netanyahou probably banked on the fact that the usual victim cries against Israel by the "barbaric hamas" would be enough for the world to allow him an ethnic cleansing and a genocide without remorse.

Unfortunately for him, he underestimated the Strengh and ressources of Palestinians, their organization and the politicization of a world that was already starting to radicalizes to the left. The world was already starting to wake up... but Gaza sped up that process x1000.

Now, it's too late to go back, the world bares witness of all the atrocities. We see, we know, we won't forget. Netanyahou has a cell already waiting for him and the accomplices of the massacre (perpetuators, politics, military, medias... of all countries) will be brought in front of the hague....

.. eventually.
This is like claims that 9/11 was an inside job.

It makes more sense that Netanyahu and his administration are both evil and incompetent—as opposed to there being some sort of conspiracy to launch a terrorist attack against their own country.

Reallistically who would even follow them hose orders?
 
Israel is certainly taking advantage of the far right. It is not manufacturing the far right, however.
Yes, taking advantage. That is what we are talking about.. well at least if we talk about Europe, in Israel, the gov, is a far right creating machine.

hyper fixating on Israel in this regard is just antisemitic scapegoating imo
No. It's pointing out a root problem. Israel as a geopolitical distabilizator has been central in the imperialist strategy since its creation. It's fundamental to understand and denounce that data.


This is like claims that 9/11 was an inside job.
No, it's understanding the geopolitics and the strategy of Israel within its colonial project.

It makes more sense that Netanyahu and his administration are both evil and incompetent—as opposed to there being some sort of conspiracy to launch a terrorist attack against their own country.
You really do not understand what is Israel. Of course Netanyahou is capable of pushing an attack against his own country if it serves his interest, the guy is a fascists putting his population in danger every single day. You think they can casually genocide, ethnic cleans, colonize and uphold to do everything that they can to serv their colonial interests? Of course he/they can and we have documents and testimonies showing that not only they delayed and purspusefully butcher the intervention, but also that Israel manufactered massive lies and propaganda on the very events of october 7 to push for the bombing of Gaza

The Gaza strip has always been their first priority. Once Gaza was destroyed and controlled, they moved to lebanon and they will not stop!

Netanyahou is not evil, he is a human part of a gov with a colonial and messianic project who managed to rig an entire systemthat could only lead to that very situation. Netanyahou is not incompetent, he is a very patient man and he is not a monster, he is the result of the colonial zionist fantasy that is Israel.

Fascism is human. It's not a hidden cabal with a secret government. It acts in plain sight, very visibibly, right in front of your eyes.
Reallistically who would even follow them hose orders?
Who would follow Hitler?

Fascists would. People who are so radicalized in their BS that they would see october 7th as a necessary sacrifice to push the genocide of an entire population..

You do understand that the US sent thousands of soldiers to die in Irak to exterminate thousands of thousands... just out of a little lie, right?? This is what radicalism does. This is what imperialism does. Soldiers that think for themselves like in the movies only happen... well... in MOVIES.

In real life, soldiers follow the wave of fascism, hell, they are even gargarized by the horrors they are commiting as I showed above.

Take a look at this: https://www.archivegenocide.com/

And I dare you to ask me again "who would even follow those orders?"
 
No. It's pointing out a root problem. Israel as a geopolitical distabilizator has been central in the imperialist strategy since its creation. It's fundamental to understand and denounce that data.
yeah… in the Middle East

it’s one thing when you are talking about the Middle East vs creating some sort of fantasy where (((Zionists))) are conspiring to flood the west with brown people.


No, it's understanding the geopolitics and the strategy of Israel within its colonial project.


You really do not understand what is Israel. Of course Netanyahou is capable of pushing an attack against his own country if it serves his interest, the guy is a fascists putting his population in danger every single day. You think they can casually genocide, ethnic cleans, colonize and uphold to do everything that they can to serv their colonial interests? Of course he/they can and we have documents and testimonies showing that not only they delayed and purspusefully butcher the intervention, but also that Israel manufactered massive lies and propaganda on the very events of october 7 to push for the bombing of Gaza

The Gaza strip has always been their first priority. Once Gaza was destroyed and controlled, they moved to lebanon and they will not stop!

Netanyahou is not evil, he is a human part of a gov with a colonial and messianic project who managed to rig an entire systemthat could only lead to that very situation. Netanyahou is not incompetent, he is a very patient man and he is not a monster, he is the result of the colonial zionist fantasy that is Israel.

Fascism is human. It's not a hidden cabal with a secret government. It acts in plain sight, very visibibly, right in front of your eyes.

Who would follow Hitler?

Fascists would. People who are so radicalized in their BS that they would see october 7th as a necessary sacrifice to push the genocide of an entire population..

You do understand that the US sent thousands of soldiers to die in Irak to exterminate thousands of thousands... just out of a little lie, right?? This is what radicalism does. This is what imperialism does. Soldiers that think for themselves like in the movies only happen... well... in MOVIES.

In real life, soldiers follow the wave of fascism, hell, they are even gargarized by the horrors they are commiting as I showed above.
Israel is, factually speaking, not actually a fascist nation. Netanyahu is not Hitler, he does not have absolute power and there are literally upcoming elections where a significant opposition is trying to unseat him.

if you spent decades serving in the military/government, and you heard someone was trying to orchestrate a terrorist attack against your country, what would you do?

Netanyahu certainly is responsible for October 7th as far as he created the conditions for it to happen. But the inside job theories would essentially require the Israeli government to work as a hive mind—which isn’t how these things work.
Take a look at this: https://www.archivegenocide.com/

And I dare you to ask me again "who would even follow those orders?"
It's time to wake the F up now.

There is a population agonizing for our help. I don't want to judge people who change their mind, just...
Enough with the Israel apologism !

I’m not going to watch that shit and you probably ought to limit how much of it you see as well. It’s good to know what is happening, but too much of this stuff will fry your brain.
 
it’s one thing when you are talking about the Middle East vs creating some sort of fantasy where (((Zionists))) are conspiring to flood the west with brown people.
Their point is no to "flood" anything, there point is to capitalize on the existing phenomenon to push far right affects and add weight on it if necessary to destabilize countries that do not align with their agenda.

Also, we are not tazlking specifically about Israel here, but Israel + The US + imperialist peripheries (and eventually Russia too in a way, as far right propaganda align with their own interest as well). Pretty much all the conservative and imperialist country benefit from the far right moral panic in Europe created by migrants arriving in their country.


Israel is, factually speaking, not actually a fascist nation
It literally is. It's an ethnostate. It's not as complete as Nazi germany, that you could call a full fascist state, but it is one. It's also important to note that "fascism" is just a term we use to describe a specific authoritarian form created by capitalism in crisis.

While the US are in a form of early fascism, Israel is rather in the middle point. We are - in europe - at the very start of the line, although some anti-capitalist consider that we are already in a form of fascism.
Netanyahu is not Hitler, he does not have absolute power and there are literally upcoming elections where a significant opposition is trying to unseat him.
Fascism has multiple forms not just one.

if you spent decades serving in the military/government, and you heard someone was trying to orchestrate a terrorist attack against your country, what would you do?
I would start by trying to understand the geopolitical context behind the terrorist attack. "Terrorism" is not a term recognize universally in international right, the terrorism of one is the resistance of another. So undersntanding from where come the threat and the reason is fundamental to deal with it... or not.

Being anticolonial is understanding that the resistance against oppression is legitimated by international rights. Just like the resistance in France was legitimated in their fight against Nazis, movements of resistance in Gaza and Palestine are legitimate in their resistance - even through violence - against settlers and oppressors. The real question is what tools are used and the level of violence necessary and of course the necessity to avoid war crimes and crimes against humanity. But a resistance is never pretty. It's always a form of survival against the impossible.

So your question is naive to me and shows that you do not understand my position : If I were to be involved in this precise type of opposition (without my mental and physical afflictions of course) and if the ethical necessity for defense or violence were presented to me... I would definitely not be on the side of the governement and military of my country, rather the opposite. I want to end capitalism, not protect it.


But the inside job theories would essentially require the Israeli government to work as a hive mind—which isn’t how these things work.
No. Just a good planning.

We have to understand that to Palestinians, ALL israelis are SETTLERS, and pretty much ALL adults have taken part in the IDF. Outside of children (which are also raised and used to oppress Palestinian as we can see today in the west bank). For Palestinians, all adults supporting Israel are directly or not responsible for a form of domination against Palestinians and thus are considered as legitimate targets for the resistance.

Netanyahou knew that by financing armed groups, Israel would give them the tools to do such attack. And the level of pressure put on Palestinians and the resistance was so strong that it is only logical for such a blood bath to have happened. You can't expect your ennemy that you pressured, oppressed, starved and bombed for years to just be full of empathy when they manage to sneak into your territory, especially when said territory is a military one. Israel's gov KNEW that data very well.

And documentations and testimonies seems to point to the data that Israel were made aware of the incoming attacks. Soldiers at the borders were told - if I remember correctly - to stand down. And when the attack happened, Israel used every means necessary to increase the bloodbath, going as far as tankls firing directly into civilians houses to "burn" the attackers. Israel BUTCHERED civilians on october 7th most probably to multiply the effect of the attack and push the idea that Hamas did horrible stuff like raping women and burning babies... which was later debunked.

I don't know if Hamas made a cynical calculation too in risking the lives of the population of Gaza on purpose, probably knowing that Israel would replicate intensely in the hope of creating a last wake up call... And I don't know to what level Netanyahou knew about all of that.

The reality is that this attack gave Israel the very pretext they were waiting for decades to bomb the shit out of Gaza and take over the region.


I’m not going to watch that shit and you probably ought to limit how much of it you see as well. It’s good to know what is happening, but too much of this stuff will fry your brain.
And yet, this is what Palestinian are seeing everyday.

This is Israel being "not that fascist". And know here that we don't have the videos of what Israel does to kidnapped Palestinians, adults and children in their concentration camps. Things are much... MUCH worse. Anyone talking about the situation should bare witness to this horror.

We are not talking about a simple conflict here. We are talking about a genocide enabled by the entire western superpowers of the world. This is an historical event that - in the future - will be regarded as one of our most shamefull moments in history. Wake up.
 
No. Just a good planning.

We have to understand that to Palestinians, ALL israelis are SETTLERS, and pretty much ALL adults have taken part in the IDF. Outside of children (which are also raised and used to oppress Palestinian as we can see today in the west bank). For Palestinians, all adults supporting Israel are directly or not responsible for a form of domination against Palestinians and thus are considered as legitimate targets for the resistance.

Netanyahou knew that by financing armed groups, Israel would give them the tools to do such attack. And the level of pressure put on Palestinians and the resistance was so strong that it is only logical for such a blood bath to have happened. You can't expect your ennemy that you pressured, oppressed, starved and bombed for years to just be full of empathy when they manage to sneak into your territory, especially when said territory is a military one. Israel's gov KNEW that data very well.

And documentations and testimonies seems to point to the data that Israel were made aware of the incoming attacks. Soldiers at the borders were told - if I remember correctly - to stand down. And when the attack happened, Israel used every means necessary to increase the bloodbath, going as far as tankls firing directly into civilians houses to "burn" the attackers. Israel BUTCHERED civilians on october 7th most probably to multiply the effect of the attack and push the idea that Hamas did horrible stuff like raping women and burning babies... which was later debunked.

I don't know if Hamas made a cynical calculation too in risking the lives of the population of Gaza on purpose, probably knowing that Israel would replicate intensely in the hope of creating a last wake up call... And I don't know to what level Netanyahou knew about all of that.

The reality is that this attack gave Israel the very pretext they were waiting for decades to bomb the shit out of Gaza and take over the region.
None of this necessitates a conspiracy nor is there any real evidence one existed.

Pushing this nonsense is tbh harmful to your own cause and just undermines your own credibility.
 
It literally is. It's an ethnostate. It's not as complete as Nazi germany, that you could call a full fascist state, but it is one. It's also important to note that "fascism" is just a term we use to describe a specific authoritarian form created by capitalism in crisis.

While the US are in a form of early fascism, Israel is rather in the middle point. We are - in europe - at the very start of the line, although some anti-capitalist consider that we are already in a form of fascism.

Fascism has multiple forms not just one.
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Fascism is a specific ideology, not a catch-all term for everything you dislike.

Israel being an “ethnostate” doesn’t make it fascist. China and North Korea are more of an ethnostate and they are communist.

And yet, this is what Palestinian are seeing everyday.

This is Israel being "not that fascist". And know here that we don't have the videos of what Israel does to kidnapped Palestinians, adults and children in their concentration camps. Things are much... MUCH worse. Anyone talking about the situation should bare witness to this horror.

We are not talking about a simple conflict here. We are talking about a genocide enabled by the entire western superpowers of the world. This is an historical event that - in the future - will be regarded as one of our most shamefull moments in history. Wake up.
This is the problem. I’m not even really arguing with you about this stuff. You just keep posting it as if it magically justifies any of your other points on completely unrelated issues concerning Israel.
 
None of this necessitates a conspiracy nor is there any real evidence one existed.
You are the only one talking about conspiracies. It's not a conspiracy. It's a the nature of a plan described very openly by the forces in presence. They want "the greater Israel", a country that span beyond lebanon and Palestine, they have always been very frontal about it.

Pushing this nonsense is tbh harmful to your own cause and just undermines your own credibility.
I'm pushing nothing more than what we know. You are the only one seeing a conspiracy where there are geopolitical imperialists interests in line.

Nothing I say is especially surprising or revealing of a great secret machination. It's just the description of a set of events and military actions supported by facts, documents and testimonies and overall, an anticolonial and antiimperialist understanding of the situation.

Israel is an imperialist asset, it's common knowledge for us. You are the only one "surprised" by the situation and I believe that you don't really know how to respond to it. You are most probably stretched between what you know of zionism and the horrors that we are describing. So you are seeking a rationnal approach like many centrist do.

But you haven't realized yet that this rationnal approach, is piloted directly by capitalists and imperialist interest in the west, making rationnality a tool to invizibilize a materialist analysis of the situation and equate any form of anti-imperialism to far right activism, ignoring that the tools we used on the far left side are completely different and far more rationnal than anything used by the far right or centrists that try to convince you that the horseshoe theory is a valid vision of the world.

Question the interests, look at the situation in the eyes, read researchers on the subject and ask anticapitalists the right question, and we will make sure to show you a way to get rid of this fake rationnal mindset.


Fascism is a specific ideology, not a catch-all term for everything you dislike.
Fascism is a form of crisis in capitalism where the bourgoisie radicalizes and turn the colonial tools of exploitation, extraction and domination inward in order to further their interests.

Which is happening in Israel, in the US, and in many countries in Europe. Fascism is an extention of capitalism, a radical version of capitalism where society gets radically stratified in racial and economical classes.

There are different forms of fascism and Israel is a fundamentalist one. Fascism in Israel is based on the racialization in the context of jewish supremacism. It is fascism, not the same as Nazi, not the same as Italy and not the same as those of the US and Europe, but it is fascism.

Israel being an “ethnostate” doesn’t make it fascist.
Actually it completely does.

China and North Korea are more of an ethnostate and they are communist.
Yeah... no.


This is the problem. I’m not even really arguing with you about this stuff. You just keep posting it as if it magically justifies any of your other points on completely unrelated issues concerning Israel
You are not really arguing but you keep trying to justify the fact that Israel is not really at the center of the current imperialist problem while completely negating their places in the destabilization of Europe by many means.

It is. And it's really that bad.
we need a spiritual and patriarchic leadership...we need someone like Sadhguru
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So you are seeking a rationnal approach like many centrist do.

But you haven't realized yet that this rationnal approach, is piloted directly by capitalists and imperialist interest in the west, making rationnality a tool to invizibilize a materialist analysis of the situation and equate any form of anti-imperialism to far right activism, ignoring that the tools we used on the far left side are completely different and far more rationnal than anything used by the far right or centrists that try to convince you that the horseshoe theory is a valid vision of the world.

Question the interests, look at the situation in the eyes, read researchers on the subject and ask anticapitalists the right question, and we will make sure to show you a way to get rid of this fake rationnal mindset.
this is so cultish smh

I don’t need you or any anticapitalist to tell me what to think. The left is right about a lot of things, but that shouldn’t blind people into following it dogmatically
 
This is anti-imperialism.
I mean, from an apolitical point of view, this can indeed be seen as strange, but this is based on a massive amount of knowledge, understanding and reflexion.

And in my case, it's actually pretty basic stuff. I don't have the bagage most leftist have. I'm a surface dweller

I don’t need you or any anticapitalist to tell me what to think. The left is right about a lot of things, but that shouldn’t blind people into following it dogmatically
No leftists are asking people to follow leftism and materialism blindly. We are asking for people to educate themselves, in order to have the basis to understand what we are talking about without freaking out because they can't make the difference between a fascist who want to kill marginalized people and a revolutionnary who wants to use violence to stop fascist trying to kill marginalized people.
 
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