Chapter Discussion Why has most of Zoro Major PU been Haki related since he talked to Mihawk?

#1
Since he asked Mihawk to teach him the Way of the Sword. All Zoro major PU has been Haki related. He learned Haki from Mihawk during his training. He learned to master Enma through haki. Now he is getting ACoC mastery. If Swordmanship is what matters most why isn't Oda concentrating on making Zoro footwork/wrist control or something. How are these fights helping him with Mihawk?
 
#2
Since he asked Mihawk to teach him the Way of the Sword. All Zoro major PU has been Haki related. He learned Haki from Mihawk during his training. He learned to master Enma through haki. Now he is getting ACoC mastery. If Swordmanship is what matters most why isn't Oda concentrating on making Zoro footwork/wrist control or something. How are these fights helping him with Mihawk?
Because Mihawk doesn't have Holy Knight regene gimmick and he isn't fighting Mihawk right now, he is fighting to help his captain, same as Sanji who will also need Haki power up.

Since Zolo will never have the same Haki level as WSM Whitebeard, PK Roger, EoS Luffy, ZKKfans keep getting excited that Oda gives Zolo a Sanji level Haki. :milaugh:

Zolo will never have the best Haki level, and Zolo still going to surpass Mihawk. Oda will make that happen so not sure what's your point about a power up that Sanji will also have.

Main point to surpass Mihawk will always be sword skill. To surpass Mihawk, Zolo won't even need best Haki levels like WSM WB or EOS Luffy Haki level, weaker Haki level than that will be enough but the best sword skill will be needed.
 
#3
Because Mihawk doesn't have Holy Knight regene gimmick and he isn't fighting Mihawk right now, he is fighting to help his captain, same as Sanji who will also need Haki power up.

Since Zolo will never have the same Haki level as WSM Whitebeard, PK Roger, EoS Luffy, ZKKfans keep getting excited that Oda gives Zolo a Sanji level Haki. :milaugh:

Zolo will never have the best Haki level, and Zolo still going to surpass Mihawk. Oda will make that happen so not sure what's your point about a power up that Sanji will also have.

Main point to surpass Mihawk will always be sword skill. To surpass Mihawk, Zolo won't even need best Haki levels like WSM WB or EOS Luffy Haki level, weaker Haki level than that will be enough but the best sword skill will be needed.
1. This makes no sense. Mihawk is Also not a metal man, or Lunarian or HK or Fishman or a Zoan etc... He going to use what he learned throughout his journey to fight Mihawk so this point is nonsensical.
2. Delusional about Zoro will never have strong haki has Roger or WB. This is your made up scenario.
3. Wait what does that got to do with my question in the OP. Why is Zoro been so concentrated with haki.

4. Yes you claiming its Sword skills which is the point of the thread. Why is Zoro since he asked Mihawk to teach him the Way of the sword, all his Major PU has been haki related. Shouldn't ot be Swordmanship related. Shouldn't Zoro say i twisted my wrist better so I defeated Pica. Instead he told Pica his haki is better. Then with King he unlocked CoC and marketed Enma with Haki. Now he trying to consciously do ACoC. When is he going to get the Major Swordmanship PU. Is it going to be vs Shiryu or is he just going to get another Haki(observation) PU again?
 
#4
1. This makes no sense. Mihawk is Also not a metal man, or Lunarian or HK or Fishman or a Zoan etc... He going to use what he learned throughout his journey to fight Mihawk so this point is nonsensical.
2. Delusional about Zoro will never have strong haki has Roger or WB. This is your made up scenario.
3. Wait what does that got to do with my question in the OP. Why is Zoro been so concentrated with haki.

4. Yes you claiming its Sword skills which is the point of the thread. Why is Zoro since he asked Mihawk to teach him the Way of the sword, all his Major PU has been haki related. Shouldn't ot be Swordmanship related. Shouldn't Zoro say i twisted my wrist better so I defeated Pica. Instead he told Pica his haki is better. Then with King he unlocked CoC and marketed Enma with Haki. Now he trying to consciously do ACoC. When is he going to get the Major Swordmanship PU. Is it going to be vs Shiryu or is he just going to get another Haki(observation) PU again?
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#5
As I said many times and nobody believed me, this was never about becoming the strongest swordsman but about strongest overall.
That's why Zoro's swordsmanship changed once, when Santoryu was doubled down with Kyutoryu and everything else has been about haki.
Zoro is the ultimate hakiman, even if Oda makes him retarded at times.
 
#6
Simply because swordsmanship has limits. And not only swordsmanship, same goes for Luffys original hand to hand/brawler style, Sanjis kicking style. They are not in any way unique, Kaidos original club style and even Van Augers marksmanship all needed haki to progress vs logias and regen merchants.

Zoros swordsmanship is probably not maxxed out yet but he has been training in that style for 15+ years so he is probably already at master level. His haki on the other hand got awakened 2 years ago. I would say his CoC also awoke 2 years ago and his AdCoC is more recent but obviously he hasn't had any control over it. Simply a matter of exposure. We saw an example of battle genius Luffy being absolute crap with a sword. Given his natural talent I'd say give him a few months and he'd probably become great with a sword but without the training and exposure he's a novice.
 
#9
2. Delusional about Zoro will never have strong haki has Roger or WB. This is your made up scenario.
He said before if WSM / Joy Boy level Haki is 100, then 88 level Haki is enough to beat WGS Mihawk.
If joyboy 100 like you said. Let's say you need 88 to defeat Mihawk.
Now he says Zolo can have WSM level Haki, "delusional" :milaugh:

It's a fact that EoS Zolo's Haki level will be around EoS Sanji's Haki level, not be around EoS Luffy's Haki level.

There will always be a Haki level difference between Luffy (also Luffy's EoS level opponents) and Zolo / Sanji (also Zolo's / Sanji's EoS level opponents)

So the main criteria for the WGS title is best sword skills, not best Haki.
 
#12
He said before if WSM / Joy Boy level Haki is 100, then 88 level Haki is enough to beat WGS Mihawk.

Now he says Zolo can have WSM level Haki, "delusional" :milaugh:

It's a fact that EoS Zolo's Haki level will be around EoS Sanji's Haki level, not be around EoS Luffy's Haki level.

There will always be a Haki level difference between Luffy (also Luffy's EoS level opponents) and Zolo / Sanji (also Zolo's / Sanji's EoS level opponents)

So the main criteria for the WGS title is best sword skills, not best Haki.
He said before if WSM / Joy Boy level Haki is 100, then 88 level Haki is enough to beat WGS Mihawk.

Now he says Zolo can have WSM level Haki, "delusional" :milaugh:

It's a fact that EoS Zolo's Haki level will be around EoS Sanji's Haki level, not be around EoS Luffy's Haki level.

There will always be a Haki level difference between Luffy (also Luffy's EoS level opponents) and Zolo / Sanji (also Zolo's / Sanji's EoS level opponents)

So the main criteria for the WGS title is best sword skills, not best Haki.
Yes Joyboy 100 and Shanks or Roger or WB not a 100. So now what? Clown and you admitted You use everything in a sword fight haki, strength Joyboy isn't a Swordsman btw etc...

What does Joyboy got to do with people like Shanks and Roger. He far superior.
 
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#13
Because Shanks sealed a few haki knots onto Posthawk and so Zoro needs to even the paying field. Don't worry he'll ask haki prodigy Sanji (who unlocked CoC and ACoC consciously in a single arc) for some haki knots to even out the playing field, giving him the necessary haki upgrades.
 
#15
Well the answer is that improving Haki makes you generally stronger, and if you want to be the strongest swordsman then you will need to reach the pinnacle of Haki

Any rational person already understand this, and Oda will keep whipping the clowns who deny it over and over again through Zoro's strength progression as he keeps attaining greater heights in Haki
 
#16
Yes Joyboy 100 and Shanks or Roger or WB not a 100. So now what? Clown and you admitted You use everything in a sword fight haki, strength Joyboy isn't a Swordsman btw etc...

What does Joyboy got to do with people like Shanks and Roger. He far superior.
You panicked and edited your message? :milaugh:

Mihawk even admitted Old WB > himself, even after WB was stabbed, Sengoku said WB > Mihawk. Healthy prime WB and Mihawk Haki difference is a big difference just like Joy Boy and Mihawk Haki difference.

Whitebeard is canonically superior to Mihawk due to "title scaling" , you ZKKclowns like title scaling only when it comes sword skill title, why you forget about the real power title which is WSM? WB was declared strongest when prime Garp and prime Rayleigh was around not only WGS Mihawk.

The point that made you panicked Mihawk or Zolo using Haki even prove my point because they will use 2nd tier weaker Haki than 1st tier Haki like Joy Boy, or EoS Luffy, or WSM WB's Haki.

The only 1st tier stat about Zolo and Mihawk will be sword skill, not Haki level. So ZKKfans talking about Haki is pure desperation when we know Sanji will also have that same 2nd tier Haki that Zolo will have.

1st tier Haki users: EoS Luffy, Joy Boy, Davy Jones, Prime WSM WB etc.

2nd tier Haki users: EoS Zolo, Mihawk, EoS Sanji etc

That difference won't change.
 
#17
Haki is really the only way to power up in one piece. You can be a genetic anomaly like BM or Kaido but that won't take you far without proper haki mastery. Eventually you'll hit a ceiling.

The beauty of one piece world is regular humans with modest potential like Ray, Gaban Zoro, Coby etc can eventually become strong enough to stand shoulder to shoulder with Genetic monsters like BM and Kaido purely based of haki
 
#18
You panicked and edited your message? :milaugh:

Mihawk even admitted Old WB > himself, even after WB was stabbed, Sengoku said WB > Mihawk. Healthy prime WB and Mihawk Haki difference is a big difference just like Joy Boy and Mihawk Haki difference.

Whitebeard is canonically superior to Mihawk due to "title scaling" , you ZKKclowns like title scaling only when it comes sword skill title, why you forget about the real power title which is WSM? WB was declared strongest when prime Garp and prime Rayleigh was around not only WGS Mihawk.

The point that made you panicked Mihawk or Zolo using Haki even prove my point because they will use 2nd tier weaker Haki than 1st tier Haki like Joy Boy, or EoS Luffy, or WSM WB's Haki.

The only 1st tier stat about Zolo and Mihawk will be sword skill, not Haki level. So ZKKfans talking about Haki is pure desperation when we know Sanji will also have that same 2nd tier Haki that Zolo will have.

1st tier Haki users: EoS Luffy, Joy Boy, Davy Jones, Prime WSM WB etc.

2nd tier Haki users: EoS Zolo, Mihawk, EoS Sanji etc

That difference won't change.
1. Edited what you dumbass? You quoted it.

2. Mihawk never admitted he was inferior to WB

3. Mihawk and WB haki not far apart. Anyways you said Haki and everything is included in Sword fights. That means Zoro/Shanks/ Mihawk/Nusjuro etc... if they compete for who strongest Swordsman they would use their full arsenal to determine who strongest Swordsman. You already admitted this 😂😂😂😂
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4. What the hell are you yapping about. You already admitted everything is included in sword fight so thats how you determine who is stronger. Idc if you think Joyboy is stronger than Mihawk. I do too. In terms of WB. You can have your opinion and I disagree. The MAIN POINT IS THO SWORDSMAN FIGHT WITH EVERYTHING THEY HAVE. SO TO DETERMINE WHO STRONGER SWORDSMAN IF LET SAY SHANKS AND MIHAWK IS FIGHTING THEY WILL USE EVERYTHING HAKI, STRENGTH, SPEED ETC.... YOU ALREADY ADMITTED TO THAT :milaugh:
 
#19
Haki is really the only way to power up in one piece. You can be a genetic anomaly like BM or Kaido but that won't take you far without proper haki mastery. Eventually you'll hit a ceiling.

The beauty of one piece world is regular humans with modest potential like Ray, Gaban Zoro, Coby etc can eventually become strong enough to stand shoulder to shoulder with Genetic monsters like BM and Kaido purely based of haki
Actually, BM is using Haki instinctively to protect herself, she doesn't have special skin. That's why she get hurt easily when she remembers Carmel, emotions hinders the usage of Haki, that's why she drops her Haki guard.

Law also mentions that he can't teleport BM, if BM's defense wasn't auto Haki, if it was about supernatural body, that would mean nothing to Law's Hax ability that can cut Kairoseki.

As for Kaido, Kaido toys with his opponents but when he gets serious he also uses Haki to protect himself. That's why 1010 Luffy dropped Kaido with base CoC punches, later on even G4 CoC punches didn't drop Kaido because he was using Haki to protect himself.
 
#20
1. Edited what you dumbass? You quoted it.

2. Mihawk never admitted he was inferior to WB

3. Mihawk and WB haki not far apart. Anyways you said Haki and everything is included in Sword fights. That means Zoro/Shanks/ Mihawk/Nusjuro etc... if they compete for who strongest Swordsman they would use their full arsenal to determine who strongest Swordsman. You already admitted this 😂😂😂😂
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4. What the hell are you yapping about. You already admitted everything is included in sword fight so thats how you determine who is stronger. Idc if you think Joyboy is stronger than Mihawk. I do too. In terms of WB. You can have your opinion and I disagree. The MAIN POINT IS THO SWORDSMAN FIGHT WITH EVERYTHING THEY HAVE. SO TO DETERMINE WHO STRONGER SWORDSMAN IF LET SAY SHANKS AND MIHAWK IS FIGHTING THEY WILL USE EVERYTHING HAKI, STRENGTH, SPEED ETC.... YOU ALREADY ADMITTED TO THAT :milaugh:
Mihawk admitted Old WB > Mihawk, dumbass.

Mihawk Haki and WB Haki is far apart, dumbass.

Keep crying and keep editing your posts ZKK dumbass. :milaugh:
 
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