Powers & Abilities Why is Oda pretending that Zoro can’t already use AdvCoC?
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aCoC wasnt used in Zoro vs Lucci whatsoever.
There is no difference between aCoC coated attacks before Elbaf and after Elbaf - both are coated in the same thing.
He was coating in it just fine, it is Oda who is making him retarded now pretending like he doesnt know what he was doing.
He will go from coating in aCoC to coating in aCoC - no improvement.
There is no difference between aCoC coated attacks before Elbaf and after Elbaf - both are coated in the same thing.
He was coating in it just fine, it is Oda who is making him retarded now pretending like he doesnt know what he was doing.
He will go from coating in aCoC to coating in aCoC - no improvement.
KOH is not Adv. CoC, it's not even Adv. CoA, and it's not even an Upgrade to his Techniques,
We've already seen what King of Hell does when Zoro tried to use Enma first time, He simply mastered that,
He learned to cooperate with his Swords rather than restrict them,
King of Hell is written before "Sword-Style", not after & before Technique,
It's a Variation of his Sword-Style, not Next Level,
When Zoro performs any Technique, He decides how much Power & Speed & Haki ... etc to put into it,
It's like opening a valve, King of Hell is just Zoro leaving that Haki valve open, that doesn't count as an Upgrade, just more serious & effective way of Fighting, however letting his Haki flow like that first time, ended up revealing his dormant Haoshoku Haki,
When Enel uses 200M Volt Amaru Form, it doesn't mean He upgraded his Lightning, it's just that before that Form, He must choose his Output & it's up to 200M, so Amaru Form is just Enel readying his entire Body to fight at full power at any given moment if needed, same for Kaidou's Flame Form, or Pica's Golem Form ... etc It's not like Base Pica can't attack you with only a Golem-Sized Punch, or that Golem Pica can't attack you with Human-Sized Punch (Which He did), those Forms is just them readying 100% Output for quick use,
Base Enel attacking you with 200M El Thor or Amaru Enel throwing that Attack, is exactly same, there is No Upgrade, just more Battle Ready.
Same thing for Zoro, King of Hell Mode is just Zoro being more Battle Ready & keeping his Full Scaling unlocked.
Zoro's Attack that removed King's Mask didn't have Adv. CoC, his Rengoku Oni Giri & Bird Dance didn't,
His Finisher against Lucci didn't, his Attack against Nusjuro didn't, his Attacks against Seraphim didn't,
His Attack against Imu didn't, They are same Techniques He learned to perform with Mihawk, nothing more.
Only questionable Attacks where Zoro might or might have not unconsciously used Adv. CoC were his Final Attack against King & Asura Attack against Kaidou, all others are just CoA.
We've already seen what King of Hell does when Zoro tried to use Enma first time, He simply mastered that,
He learned to cooperate with his Swords rather than restrict them,
King of Hell is written before "Sword-Style", not after & before Technique,
It's a Variation of his Sword-Style, not Next Level,
When Zoro performs any Technique, He decides how much Power & Speed & Haki ... etc to put into it,
It's like opening a valve, King of Hell is just Zoro leaving that Haki valve open, that doesn't count as an Upgrade, just more serious & effective way of Fighting, however letting his Haki flow like that first time, ended up revealing his dormant Haoshoku Haki,
When Enel uses 200M Volt Amaru Form, it doesn't mean He upgraded his Lightning, it's just that before that Form, He must choose his Output & it's up to 200M, so Amaru Form is just Enel readying his entire Body to fight at full power at any given moment if needed, same for Kaidou's Flame Form, or Pica's Golem Form ... etc It's not like Base Pica can't attack you with only a Golem-Sized Punch, or that Golem Pica can't attack you with Human-Sized Punch (Which He did), those Forms is just them readying 100% Output for quick use,
Base Enel attacking you with 200M El Thor or Amaru Enel throwing that Attack, is exactly same, there is No Upgrade, just more Battle Ready.
Same thing for Zoro, King of Hell Mode is just Zoro being more Battle Ready & keeping his Full Scaling unlocked.
Zoro's Attack that removed King's Mask didn't have Adv. CoC, his Rengoku Oni Giri & Bird Dance didn't,
His Finisher against Lucci didn't, his Attack against Nusjuro didn't, his Attacks against Seraphim didn't,
His Attack against Imu didn't, They are same Techniques He learned to perform with Mihawk, nothing more.
Only questionable Attacks where Zoro might or might have not unconsciously used Adv. CoC were his Final Attack against King & Asura Attack against Kaidou, all others are just CoA.
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Well no, Both Luffy and Gaban noticed that Zoro was using CoC
and Gaban even said that Zoro’s body was “quite at ease” with using it
So not only was Zoro regularly using CoC, people around him were even saying he is using it VERY EASILY
The shock was that he was so good at using AdvCoC WITHOUT even knowing that he was using it… Rhats what shocked both Gaban and Luffy… Rhey both just assumed that Zoro being “so at ease” with his CoC usage meant that he must have already known he had it
and Gaban even said that Zoro’s body was “quite at ease” with using it
So not only was Zoro regularly using CoC, people around him were even saying he is using it VERY EASILY
The shock was that he was so good at using AdvCoC WITHOUT even knowing that he was using it… Rhats what shocked both Gaban and Luffy… Rhey both just assumed that Zoro being “so at ease” with his CoC usage meant that he must have already known he had it
The "story reason" is:
Zoro just lets Enma suck out his haki. he leaks it constantly, which makes it unreliable and wasteful. You need to have mastery over it. shooting a cannon at random is good. learning how to aim it is even better.
The "meta" reason is: Oda has to stall these PUs piece by piece to justify "new" ones until EoS, because this is a shounen and editors probably demand at least that of him. It keeps discussions high.
Zoro just lets Enma suck out his haki. he leaks it constantly, which makes it unreliable and wasteful. You need to have mastery over it. shooting a cannon at random is good. learning how to aim it is even better.
The "meta" reason is: Oda has to stall these PUs piece by piece to justify "new" ones until EoS, because this is a shounen and editors probably demand at least that of him. It keeps discussions high.
There is no “no touch” haki separate from AdvCoC… Zoro literally did “no touch” five pages after he learned AdvCoC
it’s you guys who are making up the idea that this is “another level” that matters
the moment you get AdvCoC, you can immediately project Haki blasts without contact… Zoro is an AdvCoC SCRUB and he did it immediately… you think Oden who had it for decades couldn’t do the thing Zoro did in 5 minutes?
it’s you guys who are making up the idea that this is “another level” that matters
the moment you get AdvCoC, you can immediately project Haki blasts without contact… Zoro is an AdvCoC SCRUB and he did it immediately… you think Oden who had it for decades couldn’t do the thing Zoro did in 5 minutes?
Nop. Enma sucks Ryuo and Ryuo is CoA
we know this because Oden had Enma for decades and never learned AdvCoC existed the entire time
Also you guys like forgetting that Zoro has 3 swords… Enma has an Amount of Ryuo is sucks and Zoro HAS TO MATCH that amount with his other swords
get it? Zoro produces TRIPLE the amount of haki (Ryuo) Enma sucks
we know this because Oden had Enma for decades and never learned AdvCoC existed the entire time
Also you guys like forgetting that Zoro has 3 swords… Enma has an Amount of Ryuo is sucks and Zoro HAS TO MATCH that amount with his other swords
get it? Zoro produces TRIPLE the amount of haki (Ryuo) Enma sucks
Luffy literally said he learned no touch haki from Old Man Hyo
Zoro did no touch five pages after he starting to use AdvCoC… so are you saying a scrub like Zoro outclassed decades of Oden supposedly knowing AdvCoC in 5 pages
also this doesn’t even help your case, Oden was a AdvCoA master…. How the hell wouldn’t he know Barrier AdvCoA