General & Others Zoro’s fight analysis skills

[ImmaIvanoM]

A lot of people read 1193 and sort of skipped over how well Zoro analyzed this situation because we readers already understood how everything works so we sort of knew everything Zoro is saying, but In World, nothing Zoro is analyzing is apparent

There’s 3 points

1. Gaban knows that CoC slows Holy Regeneration and Gaban knows that a hooy knight can die because he saw Harald die. But that’s it. Gaban doesn’t actually know about the steel hearts or the method of killing holy knights. If he did he would have told Zoro and everyone and he would have killed Sommers himself.

2. Loki didn’t know that CoC is what allowed him to kill Harald. All he knew was that Harald pointed to his chest and Loki BY COINCIDENCE just happened to always be using CoC so he ended up killing him. Loki has no idea about the steel hearts too.

3. Zoro witnessed Sommers freaking out when Zoro said he’d cut up his steel heart.


So that’s 3 different levels of knowledge prior to this situation that WE READERS more less put together weeks ago but in the story no one has actually made the full connections between everything until this Zoro chapter.

 

[nik87]

The odd part here is that regeneration is completely falling into background irrelevance...
...it has turned into destroying their hearts with aCoC. Regen has become irrelevant basically.

 

[moreha9685]

The odd part here is that regeneration is completely falling into background irrelevance...
...it has turned into destroying their hearts with aCoC. Regen has become irrelevant basically.

Yeah.
The HKs are a special unit only deployed against specific threats to the WG.
They can continuously regenerate if injured by low- to mid-tier opponents.
But high-tier opponents who wield aCoC can kill them for good with a single strike to the heart.
Ironically, these high-tier opponents are the only ones the HKs are ever sent to deal with, so the regen ability becomes an afterthought.

 

[centurion]

its called

 

[nik87]

Yeah.
The HKs are a special unit only deployed against specific threats to the WG.
They can continuously regenerate if injured by low- to mid-tier opponents.
But high-tier opponents who wield aCoC can kill them for good with a single strike to the heart.
Ironically, these high-tier opponents are the only ones the HKs are ever sent to deal with, so the regen ability becomes an afterthought.

This is where Marco supremacy comes to light.
Cant get rid of him so easily.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Why you using bigger fonts

Hurts my eyes

 

[ConquistadoR]

Yeah.
The HKs are a special unit only deployed against specific threats to the WG.
They can continuously regenerate if injured by low- to mid-tier opponents.
But high-tier opponents who wield aCoC can kill them for good with a single strike to the heart.
Ironically, these high-tier opponents are the only ones the HKs are ever sent to deal with, so the regen ability becomes an afterthought.

Unless you have CoC, you are simply not equipped to even combat the holy knights in the first place.
And even if you do have CoC, that only really levels the playing field - it still is not a wincon in and of itself.

You still have to overpower the opponent in 1v1 combat and strike the heart with Conquerors Haki to kill them for good.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Bro is losing his mind over Zoro not knowing how to conciously infuse CoC; this is like the 6th thread old mate has created.

 

[DenifClock]

The odd part here is that regeneration is completely falling into background irrelevance...
...it has turned into destroying their hearts with aCoC. Regen has become irrelevant basically.

Most of the verse does not have aCoc. SO the regen is very relevant

 

[moreha9685]

Unless you have CoC, you are simply not equipped to even combat the holy knights in the first place.
And even if you do have CoC, that only really levels the playing field - it still is not a wincon in and of itself.

You still have to overpower the opponent in 1v1 combat and strike the heart with Conquerors Haki to kill them for good.

Sure, but most of those who don't have CoC aren't doing anything threatening to the WG's structure for the HKs to be dispatched anyway.

So, you do need CoC to fight HKs.
But chances are, if you don't have CoC, you're never crossing paths with an HK anyway.

 

[Salah WG]

Holy Knights Purpose is to be a Group that can Survive "Three Great Powers",
Meaning if Someone with Warlord or Admiral or Emperor Level DF decided to Nuke the entire Land with their Powers, Holy Knights can Survive.

However, as you pointed out, Zoro discovered what most if not all those who faced Holy Knights before haven't Discovered yet, but this leads me to conclude that Sanji Fight cannot be a Copy of that, I believe Sanji will discover Holy Knight's Second Secret about their Hearts,

The reason Holy Knights can Regenerate is because their actual Bodies are actually stored in those Hearts, They are Imprisoned in it, while the rest is just a Human Suit no different than Raid Suit,

Raid Suit is made of Shape-Memory Alloy, which remembers wearer's shape, now imagine if Raid Suit Cannister was shaped like a Heart, and the Suit was made of some special regenerating Material, and shaped like a clone of the victim with the actual him imprisoned inside, which is completely doable with Abyss Portals & DF Powers,

Holy Knights are simply Germa Fighters made by Ancient Technology instead of Judge's Current Technology, even their Ice-Cold hearts match.
So, while Zoro figured out the Heart Weakness, Sanji will probably understand what it is, thanks to his Germa Background.

 

[rohithkun]

Bro is losing his mind over Zoro not knowing how to conciously infuse CoC; this is like the 6th thread old mate has created.

Also Zoro just happened to be at the location when Luffy broke Sommers. Otherwise, he would basically have nothing. Everything was spoon fed to him before entering the battle. Gaban asking them to use CoC, Loki mentioning that Harald pointed to his heart and Seeing Sommers heart in the first hand. "Crazy detective work" here.
OP lashed out at me about Zoro CoC on a comment I never even mentioned about CoC.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sanji said he put it together a few weeks ago as well. The heart weakness must be the main reason oda didn’t have shanks or Gaban witness Haralds death

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Yeah.
The HKs are a special unit only deployed against specific threats to the WG.
They can continuously regenerate if injured by low- to mid-tier opponents.
But high-tier opponents who wield aCoC can kill them for good with a single strike to the heart.
Ironically, these high-tier opponents are the only ones the HKs are ever sent to deal with, so the regen ability becomes an afterthought.

But none of the High level opponents have ever thought to destroy their heart. We saw Xebec dicing and slicing a whole army of them and they kept coming back. Tbh Holy Knights are shitty fighters once you know their weaknesses since they don't even seem to be particularly skilled in actual combat. They are like the original logias in pre timeskip who could be decisively defeated once you had a counter for them.